2018-2019 General Lightning Discussion - Part 2

Cmac66

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I don’t know, Hoffman’s girl was a

psycho female blowing up the phone lines
If they moved here they’d be close enough for a day drive
They’ll move here with any luck
But Karlsson wants to make the big bucks bucks

Sorry

Didn’t Karlsson wife get a restraining order on her, if so she won’t be allowed to set foot in Tampa if he does decide to come over during the off season, although I think he will stay in San Jose.
 
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Boltswin

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Didn’t Karlsson wife get a restraining order on her, if so she won’t be allowed to set foot in Tampa if he does decide to come over during the off season, although I think he will stay in San Jose.

Would that restraining order apply in a different country and different state(s)? A Limp Bizkit song popped in my head so I went with it
 

Rschmitz

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Didn’t Karlsson wife get a restraining order on her, if so she won’t be allowed to set foot in Tampa if he does decide to come over during the off season, although I think he will stay in San Jose.

The application was never served and no peace bond was issued
 

Todd1a

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Not impossible we get karlsson but man it’s going to take a lot of work for JBB to move at least Callahan, Miller and gourde! Or Johnson, killorn or palat! At least 3 of those six got to move if karlsson comes
 

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I don’t know, Hoffman’s girl was a

psycho female blowing up the phone lines
If they moved here they’d be close enough for a day drive
They’ll move here with any luck
But Karlsson wants to make the big bucks bucks

Sorry

It seems like that whole story is so messed up and tangled that it's probably best for people to not speculate at all. We really don't know what happened, but the accusations by both sides are pretty serious. What a mess.

Whatever the case, Karlsson in TB feels too much like a pre-cap move.
 

CupsOverCash

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Not impossible we get karlsson but man it’s going to take a lot of work for JBB to move at least Callahan, Miller and gourde! Or Johnson, killorn or palat! At least 3 of those six got to move if karlsson comes

Now what is it. Ive seen people say we just need to get rid of Callahan and Miller. Is it actually 3 players we would have to get rid of? Also if it is 3 who would we have take their place on the lineup?
 

DFC

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Not impossible we get karlsson but man it’s going to take a lot of work for JBB to move at least Callahan, Miller and gourde! Or Johnson, killorn or palat! At least 3 of those six got to move if karlsson comes

Not to mention we're already slated to lose at least two D, probably three. It would be overhauling the team. Seems like way too many moving parts to be realistic.
 
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Rschmitz

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Not impossible we get karlsson but man it’s going to take a lot of work for JBB to move at least Callahan, Miller and gourde! Or Johnson, killorn or palat! At least 3 of those six got to move if karlsson comes

Only Miller and Callahan. That frees up a total of 21m+ which is all we need.
 

Rschmitz

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Not to mention we're already slated to lose at least two D, probably three. It would be overhauling the team. Seems like way too many moving parts to be realistic.

Seems to me like the best time to bring in different players is when you lose your own to free agency.
 

Todd1a

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Now what is it. Ive seen people say we just need to get rid of Callahan and Miller. Is it actually 3 players we would have to get rid of? Also if it is 3 who would we have take their place on the lineup?
If we sign karlsson and point it’s going to be 3
 

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Seems to me like the best time to bring in different players is when you lose your own to free agency.

That'll spark even more lost players. Karlsson's looking at somewhere in the neighborhood, conservatively, of 10m. It would require a pretty big overhaul, given the mini-overhaul we're already facing, to make that happen.
 

Lightning1995

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Watching JT play with Stammer.....well he’s a legit top 6 forward.

It kinda sucks he’s probably gotta go to make room for Points deal.
 

DistantThunderRep

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Watching JT play with Stammer.....well he’s a legit top 6 forward.

It kinda sucks he’s probably gotta go to make room for Points deal.
Unless we gut some futures to move Callahan.

A lot of pieces need to fall into the perfect places to keep things the way they are.
 

PJ817

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It seems like that whole story is so messed up
Hoffman's wife (then gf) made a terrible comment about EK's deceased baby. THAT is public; the text messages and comments Hoffman's wife made on IG and Twitter and elsewhere, were public information and disclosed in the filing by EK and his wife.

It's not messed up, it's disgusting.
 

These Are The Days

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Could you imagine if he just say's "**** it" and takes the same deal as his best buddy hedman. :laugh:

I can. Hell he takes home more money at $8.5 million AAV here than he does at $11 million with the SJS.


We have every reason to be optimistic that this can happen for a reasonable price for him and Point.



Heck Point takes home $20+million on a 5x$7million deal
 

CupsOverCash

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I can. Hell he takes home more money at $8.5 million AAV here than he does at $11 million with the SJS.


We have every reason to be optimistic that this can happen for a reasonable price for him and Point.



Heck Point takes home $20+million on a 5x$7million deal

Its going to depend on Point and whether or not we move out the cap to bring him in. If Point signs for a good deal and we move out some contracts then we can point to this being a strong possibility. Right now I think it just sounds a little crazy with how well our team is playing and Point specifically. Wonder if they sell him on the idea of bringing in Karlsson and he take a bridge for now. It definitely improves our chances. I know Point wants to win but would he want to take less so that we could bring in a player like Karlsson?
 

These Are The Days

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Its going to depend on Point and whether or not we move out the cap to bring him in. If Point signs for a good deal and we move out some contracts then we can point to this being a strong possibility. Right now I think it just sounds a little crazy with how well our team is playing and Point specifically. Wonder if they sell him on the idea of bringing in Karlsson and he take a bridge for now. It definitely improves our chances. I know Point wants to win but would he want to take less so that we could bring in a player like Karlsson?

Only JBB knows the real answer to that question. I'm sure they have had the conversation. All you can do is talk to EK's agent first and take a number, take what's left, give it to Point and if both sides are happy then pack it up you're done.

The only additional thought I have is EK is either using us like leverage like Stamkos did Toronto or we just really like EK and he really likes us
 

CupsOverCash

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Only JBB knows the real answer to that question. I'm sure they have had the conversation. All you can do is talk to EK's agent first and take a number, take what's left, give it to Point and if both sides are happy then pack it up you're done.

The only additional thought I have is EK is either using us like leverage like Stamkos did Toronto or we just really like EK and he really likes us

I dont think EK has to use us for leverage. A team will back up the brinks to him. I also think he will know that we wont be able to do that for him if he wants to come here. Now will he want to go to a place where they show him the money? Many believe all he wants is to get paid. We just dont know enough at this point. At least we have a good team here and has showed that interest before. If the stars align in that the right things need to happen for us (Point bridge, cap removed) to make it happen then we can probably point to him coming here. At least I think that would be the consensus. If we see those things happen, HF will be saying oh my they are actually making the moves to bring in Karlsson. Whether or not that happens we wont know until after the seasons over. Fun to think about though.
 

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