2018-2019 CHL/NCAA/Euro Prospects Thread III

[Stive Morgan]

What makes you say that?

He's looked soooooo good but it's hard to show it when you're second banana to Brett Leason and playing on the 3rd line with 16-year-olds.

 

[montreal]

He scored 5 points in 7 games on the first line along Stallard and Miske which respectively got 8 & 10 points, I don't see how this is disproving my point. His small, his speed is close from average and his shot doesn't have much power in it, I would consider this has one having a limited skill set, it isn't surprising to me he ended up being a 5th rounder despite being PPG(one over) in the WHL in his draft year.

did you see the games?

 

[Agalloch]

Fonstad will be a career AHLer.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Fonstad will be a career AHLer.

Bold statement.

Imagine making that statement about a late round pick.

Huge cajones.

 

[Agalloch]

Bold statement.

Imagine making that statement about a late round pick.

Huge cajones.

That's good for a 5th round pick.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I saw in the Memorial Cup thread some discussion about the LDs (Tyszka & Walford) the Habs haven't signed. They still have a bit of time so maybe they still do, but I think it's wise to be prudent with those signatures. There are a lot of LD floating around so I think it's smart if the Habs aren't sold on the 2 they drafted to hold off and use the signatures on guys they believe in.

 

[LastWordArmy]

I saw in the Memorial Cup thread some discussion about the LDs (Tyszka & Walford) the Habs haven't signed. They still have a bit of time so maybe they still do, but I think it's wise to be prudent with those signatures. There are a lot of LD floating around so I think it's smart if the Habs aren't sold on the 2 they drafted to hold off and use the signatures on guys they believe in.

I'd definitely sign Walford. He was great this season.

Tyszka I'm more unsure on.

 

[LastWordArmy]

Also Fonstad played well tonight, as did Teasdale.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Something of note about Fonstad... he's one of the most disciplined players in the WHL which is usually a very high PIM league. Fonstad has just 18 PIM in his last 2 seasons, and 34 PIM in 310 GP. (His whole WHL career)

To put that into perspective, our last forward prospect in the AHL, Matt Bradley had 200 PIM at the same age, or 488% more penalty minutes, and he was of a similar stature as Fonstad, but less gritty/physical. (didn't think it was fair to compare skilled forwards and tough defensemen when it came to PIM so I used Bradley as an example instead of Brook/Tyszka/Walford/Juulsen)

 

[Habs Icing]

Something of note about Fonstad... he's one of the most disciplined players in the WHL which is usually a very high PIM league. Fonstad has just 18 PIM in his last 2 seasons, and 34 PIM in 310 GP. (His whole WHL career)

To put that into perspective, our last forward prospect in the AHL, Matt Bradley had 200 PIM at the same age, or 488% more penalty minutes, and he was of a similar stature as Fonstad, but less gritty/physical. (didn't think it was fair to compare skilled forwards and tough defensemen when it came to PIM so I used Bradley as an example instead of Brook/Tyszka/Walford/Juulsen)

I feel a little awkward disagreeing with you. You've watched him a lot more than I have and you definitely watch the WHL more than I do. But I have to say from what I've seen Fonstad looks so disciplined because he rarely engages and is usually on the perimeter. He has excellent speed and decent hands with a very good shot but this kid engages opponents less than Drouin. Maybe he is hurt like someone mentioned. I've only started watching him with the start of the playoffs and an undisclosed injury may explain his play.

Unless he ups his hockey IQ and learns to place himself in optimal positions where line mates can feed him, I don't see much of a pro career for him. He has excellent speed, good hands and a decent shot but I don't think that's enough. His positioning on the ice has been terrible every time I saw him, and he rarely engages opponents. I also don't like his defensive game.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I feel a little awkward disagreeing with you. You've watched him a lot more than I have and you definitely watch the WHL more than I do. But I have to say from what I've seen Fonstad looks so disciplined because he rarely engages and is usually on the perimeter. He has excellent speed and decent hands with a very good shot but this kid engages opponents less than Drouin. Maybe he is hurt like someone mentioned. I've only started watching him with the start of the playoffs and an undisclosed injury may explain his play.

Unless he ups his hockey IQ and learns to place himself in optimal positions where line mates can feed him, I don't see much of a pro career for him. He has excellent speed, good hands and a decent shot but I don't think that's enough. His positioning on the ice has been terrible every time I saw him, and he rarely engages opponents. I also don't like his defensive game.

I'm such a highlight scout but there's something about his game I'm not too thrilled about. Can't really put my finger on it. I know some people are high on him but I just don't know. I'll defer to people who actually have seen him. Next year will be interesting. Maybe he'll engage more if he adds mass.

 

[Stive Morgan]

I feel a little awkward disagreeing with you. You've watched him a lot more than I have and you definitely watch the WHL more than I do. But I have to say from what I've seen Fonstad looks so disciplined because he rarely engages and is usually on the perimeter. He has excellent speed and decent hands with a very good shot but this kid engages opponents less than Drouin. Maybe he is hurt like someone mentioned. I've only started watching him with the start of the playoffs and an undisclosed injury may explain his play.

Unless he ups his hockey IQ and learns to place himself in optimal positions where line mates can feed him, I don't see much of a pro career for him. He has excellent speed, good hands and a decent shot but I don't think that's enough. His positioning on the ice has been terrible every time I saw him, and he rarely engages opponents. I also don't like his defensive game.

That's what it is though. His style is on the perimeter. I'd rather that than he be like Shaw and take 3 retaliation penalties a game.

It's gonna be interesting to observe his physical situation as he goes pro. I think he'll be fine in the modern NHL.

 

[Agalloch]

I'd definitely sign Walford. He was great this season.

Tyszka I'm more unsure on.

Looks like neither will be signed. Maybe signed them to AHL deal if they go unclaimed at this year's NHL draft.

 

[canadiensnation]

I feel a little awkward disagreeing with you. You've watched him a lot more than I have and you definitely watch the WHL more than I do. But I have to say from what I've seen Fonstad looks so disciplined because he rarely engages and is usually on the perimeter. He has excellent speed and decent hands with a very good shot but this kid engages opponents less than Drouin. Maybe he is hurt like someone mentioned. I've only started watching him with the start of the playoffs and an undisclosed injury may explain his play.

Unless he ups his hockey IQ and learns to place himself in optimal positions where line mates can feed him, I don't see much of a pro career for him. He has excellent speed, good hands and a decent shot but I don't think that's enough. His positioning on the ice has been terrible every time I saw him, and he rarely engages opponents. I also don't like his defensive game.

I understand what you are saying, I see similar traits in what you describe. I would say his skating is really good, he can quickly turn and he's got good edge work but his speed is average at best. From what I've seen he's got good puck skills and may actually be a better trigger man than a playmaker. He's got serious upside but he needs to work on his speed/acceleration, lower body strength (which comes hand in hand with maturity and working out).

 

[Adam Michaels]

Also, Fonstad: WHL Champion

 

[ahmedou]

#HabsProspects2018/2019

1) World Juniors MVP & World Juniors Best D & World Juniors Champion
2) OHL Champion
3) OHL MVP
4) QMJHL Champion
5) CHL Champion
6) Memorial Cup MVP
7) WHL Champion
8) Best Goalie in NCAA
9) KHL Champion
10) Ect Champion MVP Best

 

[ahmedou]

#2018/2019BabyHabsProspectsStatistics(Clubs)

Michael McNiven (Laval Rocket): 30 Games (11 Win + 15 Losses + 2 T ) + 1619 Mins + 2 Shutouts + 628 Saves + 68 Goals Allowed + 90.2 % Save + 2.52 GAA
Cayden Primeau (Northeastern University): 36 Games (25 Wins + 10 Losses + 1 T) + 2129 Mins + 4 Shutouts + 1026 Saves + 1 PT (1 Assist) + 74 Goals Allowed +93.3 % Save + 2.09 GAA

Josh Brook (Moose Jaw Warriors/Laval Rocket): 70 Games + 79 PTS (16 Goals + 63 Assists) + 113 PIM
Cale Fleury (Laval Rocket): -16 + 60 Games + 23 PTS (9 Goals + 14 Assists) + 23 PIM
Jordan Harris (Northeastern University): +21 + 39 Games + 13 PTS (1 Goal + 12 Assists) + 8 PIM
Arvid Henrikson (Des Moines Buccaneers/Austin Bruins: -1 + 39 Games + 1 PT (1 Assist) + 30 PIM
Noah Juulsen (Montreal Canadiens/Laval Rocket): +4 +24 Games + 5 PTS (1 Goal + 4 Assists) + 6 PIM
Nikolas Koberstein (University of Alaska-Fairbanks/Kansas City Mavericks): 50 Games +12 PTS (1 Goal + 11 Assist) + 86 PIM
Brett Lernout (Laval Rocket): +3 + 74 Games + 9 PTS (3 Goals + 6 Assists) + 41 PIM
Otto Leskinen (KalPa Kuopio): -17 + 57 Games + 31 PTS (8 Goals + 23 Assists) + 34 PIM
Victor Mete (Montreal Canadiens/Laval Rocket): +19 + 78 Games + 17 PTS (1 Goal + 16 Assists) + 6 PIM
David Sklenicka (Laval Rocket): +3 +68 Games + 9 PTS (3 Goals + 6 Assists) + 5o PIM
Alexander Romanov (CSKA Moscow): 47 Games + 4 PTS (1 Goal + 3 Assists) + 28 PIM
Jarret Tyszka (Seattle Thunderbirds): 47 Games + 35 PTS (8 Goals + 27 Assists) + 38 PIM
Scott Walford (Victoria Royals): 72 Games +54 PTS (9 Goals +45 Assists) + 78 PIM

Alexandre Alain (Laval Rocket): -6 + 72 Games + 28 PTS (8 Goals +20 Assists) + 38 PIM
Daniel Audette (Laval Rocket): -3 + 71 Games + 39 PTS (14 Goals + 15 Assists) + 53 PIM
Cole Fonstad (Prince Albert Raiders): 88 Games + 79 PTS (31 Goals + 48 Assists) + 20 PIM
Jake Evans (Laval Rocket): -11 + 67 Games + 45 PTS (13 Goals + 32 Assists) + 26 PIM
Jack Gorniak (University of Wisconsin): -8 + 37 Games + 15 PTS (4 Goals +11 Assists) + 16 PIM
Cam Hillis (Guelph Storm): 35 Games + 22 PTS (10 Goals + 12 Assists) + 29 PIM
Samuel Houde (Chicoutimi Sagueneens): 68 Games + 46 PTS (16 Goals + 30 Assists)+ 38 PIM
Joni Ikonen (KalPa Kuopio): -3 + 13 Games + 10 PTS (5 Goals + 5 Assists) + 6 PIM
Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Montreal Canadiens): +1 79 Games + 34 PTS + (11 Goals + 23 Assists) + 26 PIM
Michael McCarron (Laval Rocket): 32 Games + 21 PTS (7 Goals + 14 Assists) + 46 PIM
Allan McShane (Oshawa Generals): 77 Games + 83 PTS (39 Goals +44 Assists) + 20 PIM
Jacob Olofsson (Timra IK): -14 + 34 Games + 9 PTS (3 Goals + 6 Assists) + 2 PIM
Michael Pezzetta (Laval Rocket): -13 + 55 Games + 10 PTS (6 Goals + 4 Assists) + 77 PIM
Ryan Poehling (St Cloud State/Montreal Canadiens): +15 + 37 Games + 34 PTS (11 Goals + 23 Assists)
Brett Stapley (University of Denver): +5 + 32 Games + 19 PTS (5 Goals + 14 Assists) + 35 PIM
Hunter Shinkaruk (Laval Rocket): +1 + 54 Games + 10 PTS (5 Goals + 5 Assists) + 20 PIM
Nick Suzuki (Owen Sound/Guelph Storm): 83 Games + 136 PTS (50 Goals + 86 Assists) + 56 PIM
Joel Teasdale (Blainville-Boisbriand Armada/Rouyn-Noranda Huskies): 86 Games + 114 PTS (57 Goals + 57 Assists) + 60 PIM
Lukas Vejdemo (Laval Rocket): +5 + 66 Games + 29 PTS (13 Goals +16 Assists) + 18 PIM
Hayden Verbeek (Laval Rocket): -5 + 48 Games + 7 PTS (4 Goals + 3 Assists) + 17 PIM
Antoine Waked (Laval Rocket/Maine Mariners): -1 + 34 Games + 9 PTS (3 Goals + 6 Assist) + 32 PIM
Jesse Ylonen (Pelicans): 56 Games + 28 PTS (13 Goals + 15 Assists) + 8 PIM

PPG: Josh Brook/Allan McShane/Nick Suzuki/Joel Teasdale

 

[Adam Michaels]

Suzuki named to the OHL Third All-Star Team.

 

[le_sean]

Suzuki named to the OHL Third All-Star Team.

Lol how ludicrous is this. It’s like they picked the All-Star teams halfway through the season then Guelph won, so they included them all on the 3rd team at the last minute.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Good article about the changes made concerning European prospects: The Montreal Canadiens have learned from past mistakes when it comes to European prospects

 

[montreal]

Good article about the changes made concerning European prospects: The Montreal Canadiens have learned from past mistakes when it comes to European prospects

it's interesting but really they need better Euro scouts especially in Sweden.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

it's interesting but really they need better Euro scouts especially in Sweden.

The combine is a good step in the right direction for that. But yeah I agree, Rockstrom has been living off his reputation for a long time.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Looks like Walford and Tyszka won't be signed. Sucks.

 

[habsprospects]

Looks like Walford and Tyszka won't be signed. Sucks.

I had the same feeling when we didn't sign Matt Bradley and Brady Vail. We'll all move on soon enough.

 

[Tim Wallach]

I had the same feeling when we didn't sign Matt Bradley and Brady Vail. We'll all move on soon enough.

I'm particularly lukewarm on the WHL guys these days. Way too many of them seem to fall short of expectations.