2018-2019 Around the league thread #3

[dahrougem2]

- Manning @ 2.250 (That is 1.1 million dollars too high)
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That's about 2.240 million too high for my liking lol. He's a disaster.

Apparently he's Kerfoot two years into the future.

At least Kerfoot puts up somewhat meaningless points. Spooner just skates around the ice trying to look cool with his fancy skating technique lol. Dude was a healthy scratch tonight.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Who is Ryan Spooner and why is he paid four million dollars a year

Professional Spooners get paid $$$

 

[Iceberg]

At least Kerfoot puts up somewhat meaningless points. Spooner just skates around the ice trying to look cool with his fancy skating technique lol. Dude was a healthy scratch tonight.

But you see, when Spooner signed his deal he wasn't this.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That's about 2.240 million too high for my liking lol. He's a disaster.


At least Kerfoot puts up somewhat meaningless points. Spooner just skates around the ice trying to look cool with his fancy skating technique lol. Dude was a healthy scratch tonight.

Kerfoot has been ass for awhile now. He’s not putting up any points nonetheless useless points.

 

[Avs44]

Chicago lost, St. Louis lost, Dallas is down 2-0 to LA, Minny is down 3-0 to Anaheim. Except for Nashville and Winnipeg this division is pathetic. It's like everyone decided they didn't want to make the playoffs, but they're all deciding to one-up each other and lose more so Dallas / Minny / Colorado can't fall out of a playoff berth, no matter how hard they try.

 

[Balthazar]

Chicago lost, St. Louis lost, Dallas is down 2-0 to LA, Minny is down 3-0 to Anaheim. Except for Nashville and Winnipeg this division is pathetic. It's like everyone decided they didn't want to make the playoffs, but they're all deciding to one-up each other and lose more so Dallas / Minny / Colorado can't fall out of a playoff berth, no matter how hard they try.

And despite all that sucking from everyone, we're just one point away from being kicked out of a playoff spot by the Oilers. One single point.

 

[Avs44]

And despite all that sucking from everyone, we're just one point away from being kicked out of a playoff spot by the Oilers. One single point.

Dallas is about to lose, so we're actually going to take their third central spot due to games played. We're safe!

 

[Soedy]

If we just played average... oh man we would have basically clinched... just imagine, wins against Jets and Flames, 3 more points against CHI, one more against ARI and one more against LA. And that's just the last month.

 

[Raucherhusten]

If we just played average... oh man we would have basically clinched... just imagine, wins against Jets and Flames, 3 more points against CHI, one more against ARI and one more against LA. And that's just the last month.

If we just had .900 goaltending this past 6 weeks we would have already clinched.

That's how underwhelming the Central is this season. Watch the Blues becoming no. 3 in the Division because nobody else want to.

 

[The Kingslayer]

The division is total shit this season but you best believe that if the Avs start winning games that every other f***in team is going to decide not to suck either haha.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[CobraAcesS]

How the Red Wings can build a contender during Dylan...

Interesting read, a bit of a counter point to your argument for Detroit trading Larkin. @cgf

 

[cgf]

How the Red Wings can build a contender during Dylan...

Interesting read, a bit of a counter point to your argument for Detroit trading Larkin. @cgf

I don't have a subscription to the athletic, care to give me the-bulletpoints / a-summary? Cause I just don't see that team becoming a contender before that contract is in its last year or two; by which point Larkin's peak could already be behind him or about to happen...and you know how I feel about plans that bank on winning a cup with only 1 or 2 seasons during which you'll have everything in place to win.

I like their more recent drafting a lot more than I did their drafting earlier in the decade; so with 2 top -6 or -7 picks this year and another tank or two (read two), I'd like their pieces & the way those pieces' timelines meshed. But if they're working off of Larkin's timeline that bullseye they'd have to hit becomes smaller & smaller...unless they think he can be best player on a cup winner, which I don't. I don't think they have that caliber a player yet...which is why I think it's dumb to marry themselves to any specific timeline.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Lie
Cheat
Steal
Profit


Oh wait, that's the Patriot's recipe...

 

[CobraAcesS]

I don't have a subscription to the athletic, care to give me the-bulletpoints / a-summary? Cause I just don't see that team becoming a contender before that contract is in its last year or two; by which point Larkin's peak could already be behind him or about to happen...and you know how I feel about plans that bank on winning a cup with only 1 or 2 seasons during which you'll have everything in place to win.

I like their more recent drafting a lot more than I did their drafting earlier in the decade; so with 2 top -6 or -7 picks this year and another tank or two (read two), I'd like their pieces & the way those pieces' timelines meshed. But if they're working off of Larkin's timeline that bullseye they'd have to hit becomes smaller & smaller...unless they think he can be best player on a cup winner, which I don't. I don't think they have that caliber a player yet...which is why I think it's dumb to marry themselves to any specific timeline.

There is still some holes, and big ones by that time lets just say that. The article is extremely long. They end up needing a top line winger, and a top pair D. It highlights that it is possible, but also kind of highlights how difficult it would be to. So thinking about it some more it also kind of helps your point.

That game score stat has its flaws, and Zadina should be higher if he pans out. The one on the left is an average for the top 8 teams in the NHL today. (Tampa Bay, Toronto, Calgary, Pittsburgh, Nashville, Winnipeg, San Jose and Washington)

Here is Dom's article on game score Measuring Single Game Productivity: An Introduction To Game Score

 

[cgf]

There is still some holes, and big ones by that time lets just say that. The article is extremely long. They end up needing a top line winger, and a top pair D. It highlights that it is possible, but also kind of highlights how difficult it would be to. So thinking about it some more it also kind of helps your point.

That game score stat has its flaws, and Zadina should be higher if he pans out. The one on the left is an average for the top 8 teams in the NHL today. (Tampa Bay, Toronto, Calgary, Pittsburgh, Nashville, Winnipeg, San Jose and Washington)

Here is Dom's article on game score Measuring Single Game Productivity: An Introduction To Game Score

I guess I just don’t see Larkin, even at his peak, as the best player on a cup winner. So unless that missing blueliner is a Norris caliber guy, I don’t really see it, and even if they get Byram & he does prove to be that caliber a blueliner they’re going to have a small window where Byram is ready to be the best player on a cup winner & Larkin is still good enough to be the best center...if he ever is...

That’s why I think getting Byram with their own pick & Cozens/Dach/Turcotte with the OTT pick, while also picking up a top 4 RHD prospect & some secondary pieces, would make a lot of sense for them. They’d be well positioned to tank for that ‘best player on a cup winner’ next year & the year after, while giving those young blueliners time to grow into their roles and be ready for that superstar with a strong supporting cast once they do land one.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I guess I just don’t see Larkin, even at his peak, as the best player on a cup winner. So unless that missing blueliner is a Norris caliber guy, I don’t really see it, and even if they get Byram & he does prove to be that caliber a blueliner they’re going to have a small window where Byram is ready to be the best player on a cup winner & Larkin is still good enough to be the best center...if he ever is...

That’s why I think getting Byram with their own pick & Cozens/Dach/Turcotte with the OTT pick, while also picking up a top 4 RHD prospect & some secondary pieces, would make a lot of sense for them. They’d be well positioned to tank for that ‘best player on a cup winner’ next year & the year after, while giving those young blueliners time to grow into their roles and be ready for that superstar with a strong supporting cast once they do land one.

Yeah it definitely highlights how it might be a good idea to split that asset the way we did with Duchene.

 

[cgf]

Yeah it definitely highlights how it might be a good idea to split that asset the way we did with Duchene.

Especially if they can extract good value from pieces like Nyquist...and maybe Mantha (down the road)...as well, while they finish tanking & develop the next wave.

 

[Ceremony]

I've no idea the context for this discussion but that Detroit line-up is f***ing depressing and would never do anything.

 

[cgf]

I've no idea the context for this discussion but that Detroit line-up is ****ing depressing and would never do anything.

Yeah, if Larkin is your 2nd best Center & Mantha/Zadina your second best winger, then you could have a scary forward core, but none of them are the kind of top tier elite talent you can build a contender around. Ditto Hronek, Cholo & McIsaac on the blueline; they’re good pieces, but not “build around” pieces. They’re still hunting those.

 

[dahrougem2]

So Johansen only gets 2 games. Something like that, I probably would have dished out 5+.

I don't care if it wasn't intentional on his part, you can't be that reckless with your stick.

 

[S E P H]

Was reading an interesting thread on the main board and found this...

- The Rangers made the trade with Arizona for the 7th overall pick in the 2017 Entry Draft with the full intention and expectation that Elias Pettersson would be on the board at their pick.

- The best defenseman the Wings drafted in the 15 drafts between 2001 and 2015 was Kyle Quincey. Also, the pick that Red Wings traded to get Quincey back from Tampa Bay via Colorado became Andrei Vasilevskiy.

- Gordie Howe was a Rangers prospect until he left the organization due to internal "bullying".

 

[UncleRisto]

Was reading an interesting thread on the main board and found this...

- The Rangers made the trade with Arizona for the 7th overall pick in the 2017 Entry Draft with the full intention and expectation that Elias Pettersson would be on the board at their pick.

They then drafted whoever was almost Elias Pettersson and ended up with Lias Andersson.

 

[klozge]

So Johansen only gets 2 games. Something like that, I probably would have dished out 5+.

I don't care if it wasn't intentional on his part, you can't be that reckless with your stick.

It was clearly intentional imo. But that's what the NHL has become. Garbage refs, garbage DOPS... it's sickening.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Barry Trotz has to be the best coach In the NHL right?

Amazing what he's doing with the Islanders