2018-19 Utica Comets, Pt. VI

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Wow! Zack MacEwen with the best stats for a second year pro player in Canucks history, besting Michael Grabner who had 48 points with the Moose and who went on to a pretty decent NHL career.

I don't know how impressive this really is, because of course this is the Canuck we're talking about....so the bar is set pretty low.

But no denying he's had a great year, despite the ugly plus-minus. What his future? Does he make the Canucks next year?. They could certainly use a bruising winger with a scoring touch somewhere in their lineup.
 

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Wow! Zack MacEwen with the best stats for a second year pro player in Canucks history, besting Michael Grabner who had 48 points with the Moose and who went on to a pretty decent NHL career.

I don't know how impressive this really is, because of course this is the Canuck we're talking about....so the bar is set pretty low.

But no denying he's had a great year, despite the ugly plus-minus. What his future? Does he make the Canucks next year?. They could certainly use a bruising winger with a scoring touch somewhere in their lineup.

I don't know that this is true in either total points, or PPG. Also, FWIW, Grabner's 48 points as a second year pro isn't the best in Canucks history.

edit: Yeah, two names off the top of my head - Jason King had a higher PPG, but played a lot of NHL games (is that bad, somehow?), Brandon Reid had more total points.
 
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Yeah definitely not all-time in Canucks history, just the highest season totals since Grabner's 2008-09 year with the Moose.
 

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Thought it might be interesting to those not in the know to see exactly what the Utica roster looked like this season. The3 folowing players all dressed for the Comets or in the case of 2 goalies dressed as backups.


Forwards:
Lukas Jasek (V)
Tanner Kero (V)
Cam Darcy (U)
Alex Kile (PTO) ECHL Maine Mariners
Kole Lind (V)
Reid Gardiner (U) - assigned to Kalamazoo, recalled to Utica
Zack MacEwen (V)
Brendan Gaunce (V)
Adam Gaudette (V)
Vincent Arseneau (V)
Tanner MacMaster (U)
Mike Szmatula (PTO) ECHL Adirondack Thunder
Seamus Malone (ATO) NCAA U of Wisconsin
Tom Pyatt (V) - acquired from Ottawa
Brendan Woods (U)
Jonah Gadjovich (V)
Reid Boucher (V, AHL vet status)
Darren Archibald (V, AHL vet status) - traded to Ottawa
Tony Cameranesi (PTO) ECHL Manchester Monarchs
Kyle Thomas (U) assigned to Kalamazoo, recalled to Utica
Carter Bancks (U, AHL vet status)
Wacey Hamilton (U, AHL vet status)
Dyson Stevenson (PTO) ECHL Wichita Thunder
Mitch Vanderlaan (ATO) NCAA Cornell U
Petrus Palmu (V) - went back to Finland
Jonathan Dahlen (V) - traded to San Jose
Michael Carcone (V) - traded to Toronto

Defense:
Evan McEneny (V)
Alex Biega (AHL vet status)
Stefan LeBlanc (U) - acquired from Toronto
Jagger Dirk (U) - Utica to Kalamazoo and recalled to Utica
Jalen Chatfield (V)
Ashton Sautner (V)
Brandon Anselmini (U) - assigned to Kalamazoo, recalled to Utica
Dylan Blujus (U)
Luke Schenn (V, AHL vet status) acquired from Anaheim
Jaime Sifers (U, AHL vet status)
Cliff Watson (PTO) ECHL Kansas City Mavericks
Jake Linhart (PTO) ECHL Adirondack Thunder (did not play)
Craig Wyszomirski (PTO) ECHL Manchester Monarchs
Matt Petgrave (PTO) ECHL Brampton Beast
Colton Saucerman (PTO) ECHL Idaho Steelheads
Aaron Thow (ATO) NCAA Clarkson U.
Derek Pratt (PTO) ECHL Maine Mariners
Connor Doherty (ECHL) Worcester Railers, (did not play)
Olli Juolevi (V)
Guillaume Brisebois (V)
Jesse Graham (U)
Mitch Eliot (V) Vancouver didn't want to burn off a year so he didn't play.
Jett Woo (V) Came in injured and was sent home.

Goalies:
Thatcher Demko (V)
Richard Bachman (V)
Ivan Kulbakov (U) assigned to Kalamazoo, recalled to Utica
Connor LaCouvee (PTO) Maine Mariners
Devin Buffalo (PTO) Adirondack Thunder, dressed as backup
Alex Sakellaropoulos (PTO) Adirondack Thunder, dressed as backup
Marek Mazanec (V) acquired from NY Rangers
Ty Reichenbach (PTO) ECHL Norfolk Admirals
Michael Leighton (V)

55 players dressed for at least one game including 2 goalies dressed as backups.
4 more players, all D-men, were on the roster but did not play including Woo and Eliot.
 
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When the Comets were dressing their actual roster players they had 2 PP units established for each game.

Those units were comprised of the following players:
#1
MacEwen

Dahlen Kero Boucher
Pyatt

Juolevi (only got 18 games before injury ended his season)
McEneny
Graham

#2
Archibald
Gadjovich

Gaudette Lind Jasek
MacMaster
Pyatt

McEneny - His season would end with injury.
Graham
Blujus

Schenn took over the top spot from Graham during his short stay.

The 3 on the left changed as Gaudette was called up and MacMaster was traded and Pyatt arrived. When Pyatt moved to the first unit Lind slid out to that spot and Darcy went into the middle on the second unit.

So in essence the Comets PP units were all Vancouver contracted players with the exception of Graham and Darcy when misssing players forced them onto the units.

When the **** hit the fan and the roster became a who's who of replacement players and which Comets were healthy for each night, makeshift PP units were cobbled together and the results were usually not very good.
 

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Wow! Zack MacEwen with the best stats for a second year pro player in Canucks history, besting Michael Grabner who had 48 points with the Moose and who went on to a pretty decent NHL career.

I don't know how impressive this really is, because of course this is the Canuck we're talking about....so the bar is set pretty low.

But no denying he's had a great year, despite the ugly plus-minus. What his future? Does he make the Canucks next year?. They could certainly use a bruising winger with a scoring touch somewhere in their lineup.
What a low ass bar. We should do something about that development system.
 

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Yeah definitely not all-time in Canucks history, just the highest season totals since Grabner's 2008-09 year with the Moose.
Jesus 10 years in between respectable numbers. What a franchise :facepalm:

I feel bad for fans in utica seeing that long between impact prospects. Unreal. Does not bode well for the future.
 
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Will not matter who the coaches are if they do not get some skill on this team......

With the roster already on hand there is not a lot of room to add to it especially if Ghost Johnson is allowed to re-sign all the plugs like Woods, Darcy, Arseneau, and Graham.

Hamilton and Bancks are already signed.
Lind, Gadjovich, Jasek, Brisebois, Chatfield, and Sautner are near certain.
Palmu is under contract and could return.
I see Juolevi and MacEwen back in town soon, if not right away.
Teves, Eliot, and Rafferty are almost sure to get the assignment.
I think Boucher will get a QO simply because they won't have to hunt for a replacement.

This group of 15 contains:
- 3 vets by AHL rules.
- 3 rookies
- 5 2nd year pros and one of them only has 18 GP.
- 3 3rd yr pros
- Sautner begins his 5th season and has still only played 211 pro games including 22 in the NHL. The Comets have played 304 games over that span. So in his 4 seasons he has missed 93 games which is more than a full season.

You will note their is only one center in that mix and he is a 4th line banger/checker/PK specialist taking up one of the valuable 5 veteran slots. So, in essence, the current roster still contains 0 quality centermen to play with a group of forwards that Vancouver fans are looking to bring their game way up several notches. It won't happen without these key players. If it's Woods and Darcy again, don't look for much progress from those 2nd year wingers and don't look for a lot of success in the win column.



Incidentally, Vancouver has absolutely no centers coming up in the system. At least 2 good veteran level play makers will have to be brought in and if the Ghost isn't already negotiating with those on the market they will all be in other AHL cities by the time they begin their search.

Their is also not one experienced veteran D-man to meld with the kids back there. Brisebois and Sautner have been a pair and would be fine together. The rest need to have 2 vets to mix in with the corps to make this group solid. There is no straight out sloid all around anchor D-man in that bunch

Johnson needn't bother himself hunting down "depth" ECHL level players to stash in the Zoo on AHL contracts. He prided himself on that move at the beginning of last season and it turned out to have been a futile effort and will be the same again. You wait until you need one and then scour the ECHL for the best available player/s at the moment and sign them on loan to PTO. His ass needs to concentrate on constructing his own team and let the free agent scrub invites fill out the Kalamazoo lineup. I highly doubt that is part of his current daily behavior and if it isn't look for another less than stellar roster (and I'm being generous with those last few words.
 
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With the roster already on hand there is not a lot of room to add to it especially if Ghost Johnson is allowed to re-sign all the plugs like Woods, Darcy, Arseneau, and Graham.

Hamilton and Bancks are already signed.
Lind, Gadjovich, Jasek, Brisebois, Chatfield, and Sautner are near certain.
Palmu is under contract and could return.
I see Juolevi and MacEwen back in town soon, if not right away.
Teves, Eliot, and Rafferty are almost sure to get the assignment.
I think Boucher will get a QO simply because they won't have to hunt for a replacement.

This group of 15 contains:
- 3 vets by AHL rules.
- 3 rookies
- 5 2nd year pros and one of them only has 18 GP.
- 3 3rd yr pros
- Sautner begins his 5th season and has still only played 211 pro games including 22 in the NHL. The Comets have played 304 games over that span. So in his 4 seasons he has missed 93 games which is more than a full season.

You will note their is only one center in that mix and he is a 4th line banger/checker/PK specialist taking up one of the valuable 5 veteran slots. So, in essence, the current roster still contains 0 quality centermen to play with a group of forwards that Vancouver fans are looking to bring their game way up several notches. It won't happen without these key players. If it's Woods and Darcy again, don't look for much progress from those 2nd year wingers and don't look for a lot of success in the win column.



Incidentally, Vancouver has absolutely no centers coming up in the system. At least 2 good veteran level play makers will have to be brought in and if the Ghost isn't already negotiating with those on the market they will all be in other AHL cities by the time they begin their search.

Their is also not one experienced veteran D-man to meld with the kids back there. Brisebois and Sautner have been a pair and would be fine together. The rest need to have 2 vets to mix in with the corps to make this group solid. There is no straight out sloid all around anchor D-man in that bunch

Johnson needn't bother himself hunting down "depth" ECHL level players to stash in the Zoo on AHL contracts. He prided himself on that move at the beginning of last season and it turned out to have been a futile effort and will be the same again. You wait until you need one and then scour the ECHL for the best available player/s at the moment and sign them on loan to PTO. His ass needs to concentrate on constructing his own team and let the free agent scrub invites fill out the Kalamazoo lineup. I highly doubt that is part of his current daily behavior and if it isn't look for another less than stellar roster (and I'm being generous with those last few words.
I don't suppose I will be reordering the AHLtv Comets games again next season. I just don't see the point. I mean, there's nothing there.
 

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I don't suppose I will be reordering the AHLtv Comets games again next season. I just don't see the point. I mean, there's nothing there.
What??

It's a value to able to watch GM Johnson's Circus for $79.00.

C'mon, we would miss your input.

Bad Goalie said it best. Unless Johnson changes...and changes his ways FAST, it's going to be another 60 plus player season in Utica.

But wait, Bancks and Hamilton are back. Makes me puke.
 

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What??

It's a value to able to watch GM Johnson's Circus for $79.00.

C'mon, we would miss your input.

Bad Goalie said it best. Unless Johnson changes...and changes his ways FAST, it's going to be another 60 plus player season in Utica.

But wait, Bancks and Hamilton are back. Makes me puke.

It dosent make me puke.... But it's pretty mind numbing that someone in his position could be so incredibly stupid..........
 

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So, in essence, the current roster still contains 0 quality centermen to play with a group of forwards that Vancouver fans are looking to bring their game way up several notches. It won't happen without these key players. If it's Woods and Darcy again, don't look for much progress from those 2nd year wingers and don't look for a lot of success in the win column.

Incidentally, Vancouver has absolutely no centers coming up in the system. At least 2 good veteran level play makers will have to be brought in and if the Ghost isn't already negotiating with those on the market they will all be in other AHL cities by the time they begin their search.

It would be interesting to see what happens to the C position. I do hope that the Canucks improve the Comets roster for next season. In Vancouver, there is talk that Benning should move Sutter and have Gaudette fill the 3rd line C role (although after the season Gaudette had, he's a big question mark). Regardless, I don't see Gaudette playing for the Comets.

Kero is a UFA. He's coming off a one way contract. Given that he played 0 games for the Canucks this season, I see him going elsewhere. Given that in the past the Canucks signed Chaput and Megna I think the Canucks will, at the very least, have an intended Kero replacement. Granlund and Tyler Motte require qualifying offers. I think Granlund will find a spot on an NHL roster even if it isn't with the Canucks. Motte, if qualified, may be a candidate to be sent down, although Green seems to like him. There's also Ryan Spooner who if sent down is a #1 playmaking C at the AHL level.

As a Canucks fan, it would probably be better if Spooner has a bounce back year but other than that, I do hope the Canucks acquire players over the summer that would push Motte and or Spooner to the AHL which would shore up the Comets' C position.

Since the Canucks did acquire Kero last season, is there a similar player available this summer?
 
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Every single AHL team has players like Kero. The problem is that the Vancouver braintrust waits until they have all been signed before looking for theirs. The problem with the Spooner/Motte duo is exactly the same as the Chaput/Megna duo. They are not sent to Utica to help the prospects. They are stashed there for the first injuries and, like Gaudette last season and Chaput/Megna in 2016-17, they don't spend much time with the prospects who are then left to fend for themselves with the likes of Hamilton, Darcy, Woods, Giardner, and other ECHL PTOs.

The way to avoid this seasonal roster suction is to sign the AHL?NHL vet who won't get called up, but gets paid to do his job. You know, DEVELOP PROSPECTS! The rest of the "intelligent NHL franchises" stock their farm that way. Maybe the term in quotations is an oxymoron as far as Vancouver is concerned. After all, this will be season 5 in a row since Henning was fired if they follow their well beaten path. I'm sure Lind, Gadjovich, and Jasek would highly appreciate a new approach. I'll bet the young D-corps would also welcome a Schenn type vet on their end as well.

I don't think they even realize/KNOW that players who have not reached the veteran level status or have only reached veteran exempt status, but have already cleared NHL interest for specific reasons (e.g. too small, lack of NHL skating, too slow) are also out there in decent numbers like Kero was last season.

I'm not holding out hope that these bozos will have an epiphany and all of a sudden care about the quality of the team they put their prospects on and then Vancouver media can continue to shield Benning from any responsibility for the shitestorm that rolls onto the ice here like a noreaster every year by mid season and turns the blame onto the coaches. If you don't have positional strengths in the pipeline it's incumbent upon management to find the quality they haven't drafted to aid in the development of those they have. Is this rocket science?
 
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Yeah Benning and Johnson, if they do the bare minimum while doing their job, should be able to retain Kero and Spooner as the top 2 AHL centres for next year's roster. I'm not even asking anything else of them at this point.

I will be looking back at this post in future. Let's see what ends up happening...
 
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My only hope is that the Canucks braintrust has learned a lesson or two from the last couple of years in Utica, particularly last season. One of the biggest reasons the prospects faltered is because so many of the veterans around them went down with injury; and the call-ups and PTO's from the ECHL couldn't take up the slack.

The collapse in Utica was an even bigger disappointment to me than what happened in VanCity, where expectations were low entering the season anyway.

Benning and Johnston need to go back to drawing board and build the Comets the right way. Only then will they have any comfort in sending their prospects down to farm and have a realistic expectation that they'll develop properly.
 
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I have zero hope that anyone in management has learned anything about their past mistakes. They are overwhelmed with the big club and simply are not good enough at their jobs to take care of an AHL team. Too many small details simply fall through the cracks and are missed or forgotten......
 

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Amazing. I posted many of the answers to the issues facing the Comets and the path Johnson would likely take instead and as "go comets" just said "like clockwork the stupidity continues".

I'll use some of Johnson's quotes from this morning's Utica OD article penned by the Comets only newspaper reporter, Ben Birnell. I love the effort Ben puts forth, but he never ventures to critique anything that goes down. He never makes an editorial comment. He never questions any of the moves so in essence he is merely reporting the events as they take place without any opinions. That's not an actual journalist."What I want - especially after what we went through and what the end result was - is the real, honest self-evaluation," said Johnson including himself in the exercise. We want to get the players and staff to dig in and find the answer to being better."

Let me me give him a heads up. As the GM he should be deeply involved in assessing what the Canucks will be providing and what is missing that needs to be acquired.

Up front we know that will be Lind, Gadjovich, Jasek, maybe Palmu, and likely MacEwen. That IS IT !!!!!!!

On the back end we know that Sautner, Brisebois, Chatfield will return barring a miracle in Vancouver. They will be joined by newcomers Eliot, Teves, and Rafferty. There is also a good possibility that Juolevi will see a lot of time here as well, one way or the other.

In net the Comets will select from the threesome of Bachman, DiPietro, and Kielly.

What's missing? CENTERS!!!!!!!!! There are none on this list.

Aside from MacEwen there are no bona fide scoring wingers either.

An experienced anchor D-man like Schenn and an experienced, puck moving, PP QB a la Bobby Sanguinetti to go along with Juolevi as the 1st/2nd PP QBs and if Juolevi is not here or gets called up, then you still have a #1 and can work with a guy like Rafferty to become prominent in that position. I can tell you straight out that Sautner, Brisebois, and definitely Chatfield are not in possession of the that kind of skill set.

Johnson's answer starts right out with repeat disaster.

"Johnson said there's a group from last season that he would like back to help provide leadership and ensure a strong culture with returners Carter Bancks/15 Pts and Wacey Hamilton/11 Pts (already signed for the upcoming season and taking up 2 of the 5 league allotted game night veteran slots.) Forwards Brendan Woods and Cam Darcy and defenseman Dylan Blujus were among those considered part of that group."

I note he refers to Woods and Darcy as forwards. Is that to disguise the fact that they were used every night as 2 of the 4 Comets centers putting up 17 and 23 Pts respectively for the season?

"He also said an important focus will be creating more depth throughout the organization."

He prided himself on doing just that last season with a string of ECHL players signed and sent to Kalamazoo to provide call-ups in emergency situations. Those guys when brought in were not good by a long shot and more were brought in the normal way - scour the ECHL for the best performers at the time and acquire them on loans and sign them to PTOs. It rarely pays off with adequate replacements, but some are better than the rest and you have to find them. Johnson wasted preseason time and energy hunting down and signing the guys he thought would be good depth while good AHL level players he could have brought in to provide that depth were snapped up by the well run teams.

Let me inform Mr. Johnson that almost all of the AHL teams have a veteran center the likes of Cal O'Reilly (67Pts/67GP for the Iowa Wild) and if they don't they eventually go, out and get one. San Jose did just that snapping up TJ Hensick when I was screaming from the hills that he was just siting in the ECHL waiting for a call when Utica was desperate for a center. Johnson brought Reid Gardiner up from the Zoo (3Pts/21GP). Meanwhile Hensick put up 20 Pts in 23GP for San Jose.

Most AHL teams have one of those veteran types and then usually one of their own center prospects and/or a free agent acquisition or 2 if the pipeline lacks centers who take the #2 and 3 roles. Kero would be an example.

San Jose had 21 yr-old FA center Alexander True out of Denmark, 25 yr-old FA center Antti Suomela out of Finland, and Rourke Chartier, 23, a 2014 5th rounder of their own who had become a tweener for Sharks, among their centers. None of these guys have earned veteran statue yet so their roster was still open for veteran support at other positions.

"You can never have enough depth", he said. "It was something we discussed a lot a year ago and different things play out organizationally with limitations of contracts....."Now we're trying to make sure we're insulating our group correctly. Not just at the AHL level, but fo Vancouver as well...In doing that, you're also insulasting your youth with really, really good players to plsay with. It a organizational depth which makes everyone better."

Yup, the limitations of contracts has them by the nuts. They burn their contracts on long-shot, aren't going to make its and then have no contract space for those guys I just listed. Once the Vancouver free agents and a certain few RFAs are off the books, there will be spaces open and if Benning uses them on veteran free agent types, the players he has available for that depth to place in the AHL will be vets he already has under contract like Motte, Spooner, Goldobin, Biega, etc. and that's if they get through waivers. He has not had big luck with that lately.

They don't sit and consider how to put together 2 rosters.
They are one minded until the Canucks roster is set and then when they go to construct their AHL roster they are stuck with veterans to try and slip through and those guys will be the first call ups and like Megna and Chaput could spend most of their seasons in the NHL anyways. That is not building an AHL roster.

The AHL GM should be looking high and low in conjunction with the scouting staff for those undrafted NCAA FAs and the same type FA players in Europe. You can build some in house depth that way. Thus, Woods, Darcy, Hamilton, Arseneau, and Blujus become depth while everyone is healthy and Benning's stash players are in town. Those guys have already proven over the past 2 seasons that they are not good enough to be every day AHL players on a competitive team above the 4th line and never at center except Hamilton. In a pinch they are better than what the ECHL has to offer and that's called in house depth. Johnson is once again considering them game day players.

Problem with this is Cull hates to carry enough players to work with this philosophy. A couple forwards and a couple extra D is all he wants around. That kicks the Hell out of developing in house depth.

My BIGGEST question is, "Who are these 'REALLY, REALLY GOOD PLAYERS' he is bringing in to help these young players and who exactly are these young players he's expecting big things from this season? I know who the young ones are - Lind, Jasek, Gadjovich.

WHO are the "really , really good players?" Last year he said he didn't want those players as they would take ice time and key positions away from the prospects. Has he finally figured out that prospects left to develop without the "really, really good players" don't develop at all?

The only one currently available is Boucher. He's still an RFA.

Kero is a UFA, but had a 1-way last season and unless Benning is willing to give him the same kind of money on a 2-way, he'll seek employment elsewhere and his numbers will find him a job. He has graduated to VE status. However, 5 vets can still dress for games with a VE in the lineup. Is there a better VE than him out there? Probably, but someone has to be looking for him and pay him to play here. money hasn't seemed to be a problem in the past. The key is getting quality for your dollars and there have been some here who made too much for the results

I'm not holding out hope that this guy has seen the light. I think he's trying to blow the same smoke up our arses that he's been blowing in Vancouver for 2 years. That won't work here. I'll let you know when I see the list of invited players to Utica's camp. The proof of his learning curve will be the names on that list.
 
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