2018-19 UEFA Europa League

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  1. Blender

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    I think we have also seen a healthy trend of the mid-table teams in England doing much better business as well, and the top clubs come sniffing around to try and scoop those guys up after they prove themselves in England. I fully expect that to continue or even increase going forward.
     
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    Wait...did Lacazette get tatts? Or did he always have them, I am so confused right now.

    You know Spanish? The Telemundo was going nuts, especially on Auba's second goal. Penalties were boring, Franfurt players kept shooting to Kepa's right (and then straight at him?). That's nonsense chances there.

    First time it has ever happened where a country had all the same teams in the both finals.

    We're not going to miss him anyways, Ramsey is a bigger loss, but that's why we let him walk with his made in China hamstring.

    Zibanejad isn't Muslim (or are you talking about nationalities?).
     
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    Also mad respect for Hazard who went to go shake the Frankfurt's goalkeeper hand before celebrating.
     
  4. Machinehead

    Machinehead Kakko's Modern Life

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    He's an Iranian citizen
     
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  5. les Habs

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    :biglaugh:indeed. Because Transfermarkt squad value estimations are indicative of how good the teams actually are. :facepalm:

    Here's an example of why that's just a really dumb way of comparing the relative strength of the teams. Here are two players and their respective valuations per Transfermarkt:

    • Lionel Messi: 160 million
    • Harry Kane: 150 million
    Now let's compare their seasons a bit:
    • Messi has 34 goals and 13 assists in 2530 league minutes. 12 goals and 3 assists in 837 Champion's League minutes.
    • Kane has 17 goals and 4 assists in 2427 league minutes. 5 goals and 1 assist in 688 Champion's League minutes.
    And that's just the statistical difference between them, and that's just one example of many. Amazing someone would actually post that, but I'm not surprised. Nor will I be surprised when you reply with La Liga being **** and some other nonsense.

    A lot has changed in two years.

    I think if Premiership sides are run well their financial advantage will make a difference, but when I look at some of the buys that Barça and Madrid have made in recent years I'm seeing a lot of young players bought relatively cheaply. Sure there are other buys that were expensive, but when you're getting guys like Varane, Asensio, Arthur, Umtiti, etc, you're getting some real talent at some great prices. You also have to consider youth development which will continue to play a role. Financial superiority will always provide an advantage, but I wouldn't call it a silver bullet.
     
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    Naturalized Swedish citizen, Finnish at birth. Iranian citizenship he never had.
     
  7. Albatros

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    Fifth best player in the world versus tenth best is always going to be tight. Should be the other way around after Kane lifts the Champions League trophy though.
     
  8. Live in the Now

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    And then you turned off FIFA.
     
  9. les Habs

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    Like I said, at best a really bad troll.
     
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  10. les Habs

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    Again, so many example, but I'll throw out a further example to illustrate just how dumb it is to use Transfermarkt market valuations as way to determine how good a team is:

    • Virgil van Dijk: 75 million valuation
    • Lucas Hernandez: 70 million valuation
     
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    Iran considers jus soli (blood ties with the father) in their citizenship. So since Mika's dad was born in Iran he too is Iranian by their laws.
     
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    My post was just a bit of tongue in cheek with how posters here overrate the EPL and then non Premier League fans go crazy.
     
  13. Duchene2MacKinnon

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    Its beyond dumb but to be fair to the site VVD and Hernandez were old for similar price so, naturally their value would be similar. Even though one is clearly 10 steps ahead of the other.
     
  14. les Habs

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    That's fine, but I think it's a discussion worth revisiting. A lot has changed in two years as I noted. To a degree a fair amount has changed in just a year.
     
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    Bayern overpaying 80 doesn't mean Hernández is suddenly better or more valuable than van Dijk, who is arguably the best in the world.
     
  16. les Habs

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    I understand that but that doesn't mean that it's the measure of the player's quality. Like you said, beyond dumb.
     
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    Gee, d'you think? Yet you're the one using Transfermarkt player valuations as a measure of a team's relative strength. As amazing as it is that you'd actually have posted that in the first place, it's even more incredible that you're now posting this. Amazing, but not surprising.
     
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    I doubt Iran has any sort of interest in him or his affairs legally or otherwise. The only thing he has is an Iranian-born father who belonging to a minority group fled the country permanently in the 1970s fearing religious persecution.
     
  19. Live in the Now

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    That's not the point. The point was that blanket banning someone from a country like Azerbaijan bans Armenians (meaning Mkh can't enter the country), is absolutely ****ing dumb. Armenia gives citizenship the same way so he could have been born in Los Angeles and not been able to play in the final. It's stupid.

    The other point was that a moron's (don't even want to say his name) original plan would have trapped Zibanejad in the US if he had any Iranian citizenship at all, and then deported with no chance of renewal on a visa.
     
  20. Albatros

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    A team has 30 or so players, even if you do not agree with every individual player valuation because someone overpaid, still they easily even out providing a useful comparison between Liverpool and Bayern or whichever teams or leagues you wish to compare.
     
  21. Live in the Now

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    They are not useful at all I'm afraid. If someone offered that for van Dijk they would be slapped. Even if they offered what's on there for Salah they would be slapped.
     
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    You don't even know what's stupid.... It's about to get all stupid up in here.
     
  23. Albatros

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    Maybe it is, but they are fighting a war still and until that is resolved tensions are going to remain high. UEFA knew this already when they gave the final there, shouldn't have been done but now it is what it is.
     
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    What?
    :laugh:
     
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    Their respective placements in both Ballon d'Or as well as FIFA Player of the Year votes.
     

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