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2018-19 Roster talk; Part two
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Ghosts Beer
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Lukas Krajicek & Ryan Parent played 22 & 17 playoff games, respectively, for the team that (somehow) got to the Cup Final in 2010.
Those are 2 defensemen worse than AMac.
Those are 2 defensemen worse than AMac.
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Sweet thanks. The WAR data there goes back to the 2007-2008 season. When only pulling out their time with the Flyers here is the bottom 5 with number of GP.
| Rank | Name | GP | WAR |
| 5 | Vincent Lecavalier | 133 | -0.9 |
| 4 | Sean O'Donnell | 81 | -1.1 |
| 3 | Brandon Manning | 207 | -1.2 |
| 2 | Valtteri Filppula | 101 | -1.3 |
| 1 | Zac Rinaldo | 223 | -3.1 |
mja
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While I agree that both were inferior players to AMac, saying that they "played" in those playoffs is overly generous. They barely saw the ice. Parent averaged 7:28 a game those playoffs while Krajicek saw 10:01 minutes a game.
AMac has been averaging half a minute more than their combined 2010 playoff minutes this season. That's just too much. He should be getting light 3rd pairing minutes at this point. Hell, he should really be a Phantom and Myers should be up on the big club at this point.
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Tbh that teams top 12 and top 4 were amazing, some of the best in Flyers history... shame about not having even one solid bottom pair Dman. It is annoying that the 2 best Flyers teams of this century ('04 and '10) were arguably killed by the bottom end of the D, albeit in 2003-04 it was due to atrocious luck with injuries.
Oh yeh, but they played a combined 129 regular season games for the Flyers, both averaged less than 17 minutes a game over their career too, with Parent sub-15.
There are lots of less impactful Dmen who played ~50-100 games or so as a Flyer, but AMac has played 264 now.
What is funny/crazy is that after that cup final the two combined for FOUR more NHL games between them.
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Amazing how many players we have as fulltime NHLers, then once they leave us, just become unemployed.
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Hextalls tolerance for trash players is one of the reasons the fanbase became apathetic. Too many trash players and a trash coaching staff.
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Woof. Homer really needed to bring in a better defensemen than Krajicek down the stretch in 2010. I guess the teams position in the standings made him hesitate.
My point still stands about Hextalls tolerance for trash players though lol
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At least when Krajicek and Parent were around the Flyers had Pronger to play 25-30 minutes a night and another number 1 D in Timonen. It's down the list after goaltending and coaching but Hextall did a piss poor job of putting together a quality NHL top 6 at D during his tenure as GM.
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I prefer to factor cap hit in as well, and MacDonald's terriblocity and absurd cap hit makes him leapfrog Shelley for me. Especially with how much he gets leaned on.
Not sure anything can top Bryzgalov. Large-ish cap hit sunken into the most one dimensional position on the ice, for a player who singlehandedly lost numerous games while elevating the team to very very very very very very very very few per normal G expectations.
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It's really hard to come up with older names here. Part of this is the rebuild, part is probably Hextall's personality in specific, but pre-cap teams seemed to be able to get out of contracts a bit easier and never had an incentive to sign anyone to long deals in the first place.
There's also an aggressive cultural component to those earlier teams. Could you imagine MacDonald playing on those 70s or 80s teams? Especially one with Clarke still playing? Wouldn't have lasted a year.
There's also an aggressive cultural component to those earlier teams. Could you imagine MacDonald playing on those 70s or 80s teams? Especially one with Clarke still playing? Wouldn't have lasted a year.
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Man, there really aren't a whole lot here. Some of the unmentioned whipping boys (e.g., Carkner, Crossman, Dykhuis) and probably the dedicated face-punchers if we're talking about actual hockey (Dave Brown, Brashear, and Berube). Though they could all take a regular shift, which I wouldn't say about Fridge or Remaldo. Those would be my additions: 1.) Bryz*, 2.) Mac, 3.) Rinaldo, 4.) Fedoruk.
I didn't include him, because I think he did have value as a defender, but Luke Richardson played five full seasons for the Flyers and never cracked the ten-point barrier; it's hard from a modern perspective to see him breaking even, though I never would have said that at the time.
I didn't include him, because I think he did have value as a defender, but Luke Richardson played five full seasons for the Flyers and never cracked the ten-point barrier; it's hard from a modern perspective to see him breaking even, though I never would have said that at the time.
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Face punchers are easy calls especially the ones who played in that era when there were plenty. I would give more shit to guys like Rinaldo & Shelley who were still playing when that role was coming to an end.
At least back in the day an advantage wasn’t really gained as every team played multiple face punchers in their lineup regularly.
At least back in the day an advantage wasn’t really gained as every team played multiple face punchers in their lineup regularly.
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