Speculation: 2018-19 Roster Discussion #3 - Not so bad at the moment

Discussion in 'Arizona Coyotes' started by TheLegend, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. SniperHF

    SniperHF Administrator In The Coat

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Messages:
    34,053
    Likes Received:
    6,393
    Trophy Points:
    202
    Location:
    Phoenix
    Kuemper has managed to be better than the average in Sv% and GAA playing a load he was completely unexpected to.

    If Raanta has issues again next year Kuemper seems to be able to handle it. We've dropped a bit in the rankings but the team is still a very respectable 11th best in goals against.

    As usual our problem is up front :laugh:. If Kuemper has to be our starter he'll be good enough based on what we have seen.
     
  2. Mosby

    Mosby Howl On

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    12,241
    Likes Received:
    3,323
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Toronto
    One other thing I've noticed in terms of where are scouts are is we're watching Florida a lot.

    I don't really see a fit there tbh.
     
  3. TheLegend

    TheLegend Megathread Gadfly

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Messages:
    13,129
    Likes Received:
    2,911
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Occupation:
    Llama Wrangler
    Location:
    Buzzing The BoH Tower
  4. hbk

    hbk Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    15,618
    Likes Received:
    1,421
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Home Page:
    Huberdeau is apparently available
     
    Jakey53 and ParisSaintGermain like this.
  5. lanky

    lanky Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,948
    Likes Received:
    584
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Winnipeg
    If STL and MIN extend their lead on us in the standings then...

    Stepan, Panik and Kuemper for
    Wennberg and CBJ 1st 2019

    CBJ get an upgrade at C and a couple NHL players to show up in the playoffs after Panarin and Bobrovski are traded. AZ gets the pick and the younger C.
     
  6. FinnishCoyote

    FinnishCoyote Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2017
    Messages:
    687
    Likes Received:
    560
    Trophy Points:
    74
    Huberdeau would be amazing, potential ppg and 25 goal scorer. Problem is that it would cost far too much
     
  7. moosemeister

    moosemeister Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    5,031
    Likes Received:
    2,257
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Gilbert, Arizona
    I’d give up my daughter and goose for Yandle to come back lmao
     
    kbay, Imaravencawcaw and YotesFan47 like this.
  8. cobra427

    cobra427 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Messages:
    6,038
    Likes Received:
    791
    Trophy Points:
    109
    I would take Yandle back in a heart beat:)
     
    kbay likes this.
  9. YotesFan47

    YotesFan47 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2012
    Messages:
    1,556
    Likes Received:
    227
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Location:
    Phoenix, Arizona USA
    There are a number of goal scorers in the UFA market we can target, as well as RFAs we can trade for.

    I'm actually warming up to getting Dzingel.

    Dzingel - Schmaltz - Keller
    Nyquist - Wennberg - Silfverberg (Swede line)
    Galchenyuk - Dvorak - Fisher
    Grabner - Richardson - Garland
    Cousins

    Flip Hinostoza, Stepan, and Crouse for picks/prospects.

    OEL - Hjalmersson
    Chychrun - Demers
    POJ/3LD - Lyubushkin
    Capobianco

    Flip Connauton and Goose for picks/prospects.

    This is all a pipe dream but that has to be a contending roster with good age across the board. That Swede line could be legit too. Good blend of power and skill.
     
  10. Edenjung

    Edenjung Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2018
    Messages:
    199
    Likes Received:
    77
    Trophy Points:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    The real question is; do we even have the money to get a top ufa?
    Our organisation is clammy.
    We are not that fluid you know. Can we even pay those guys like Panarin or others the money they want?

    If we want some guys we have to be like swabian housewifes and know how to work with our money.
     
  11. Mosby

    Mosby Howl On

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    12,241
    Likes Received:
    3,323
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Toronto
    Big fan of Dzingel but I think the ask is going to be way above his true value.

    Crouse imo is worth way more to us than a pick or prospect. I love his development this season. He's truly unique on this team. To me he's totally untouchable unless someone offers something they shouldn't.
     
    Biz20, SR, Bonsai Tree and 3 others like this.
  12. Grimes

    Grimes Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Messages:
    4,010
    Likes Received:
    657
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    Tippet's Doghouse
    Florida's defensive pipeline is a little thin. Chychrun has ties to Florida. Could be an interesting trade but not one I'm sure I would do now that it will be impossible to evaluate Capo until next season. Also don't like the idea of constantly churning through our younger players.
     
  13. ParisSaintGermain

    ParisSaintGermain Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2004
    Messages:
    4,485
    Likes Received:
    337
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Never a fan of players who - a bit out of nowhere- have their best year in their contract year. So count me out on Dzingel.

    To me only Keller and OEL are untouchable. Everyone else could be moved, of course if this means getting a real cornerstone back.
     
  14. RABBIT

    RABBIT Do it for Makaveli Sponsor

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    8,154
    Likes Received:
    3,108
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    where do you find out who is scouting who?
     
  15. Mosby

    Mosby Howl On

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2012
    Messages:
    12,241
    Likes Received:
    3,323
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Toronto
    Mostly beat reporters tweeting out a list. We'll see more of it as it ramps up toward the deadline. Even better when they tweet out the media sheet of the press box seating as it indicates what teams/people are there.
     
    RABBIT likes this.
  16. YotesFan47

    YotesFan47 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2012
    Messages:
    1,556
    Likes Received:
    227
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Location:
    Phoenix, Arizona USA
    Oh I love Crouse, he has been fantastic. Physical, great character, seems to bring it every night. Not looking to offload him but if we were too add 3 top 6 wingers we may need to find him a new home. If we were to say, not get Dzingel in that little thought pot, Crouse would be the first to come off the move list. I figured he would have more value than Fisher at this point, which is why he was the one I put on the move list.
     
  17. AZviaNJ

    AZviaNJ @AZviaNJviaNY

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    714
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    AZ
    It would cost Keller...not sure we want to do that.

    What about Hoffman? One more remaining at $5.2M. Goal scoring machine, may be expendable if they acquire Panarin.

    What's the cost? Stepan+?
     
  18. hbk

    hbk Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    15,618
    Likes Received:
    1,421
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Home Page:
    For Hoffman? I’d offer a 3rd at best. He’s good but there’s plenty of drama there. especially given his relationship with Eric Karlsson and given how close Karlsson is with OEL and Hjalmarsson.

    Unless he’s coming at a bargain basement discount price then we do not want in our dressing room.
     
    Ghostface Keller and YotesFan47 like this.
  19. AZviaNJ

    AZviaNJ @AZviaNJviaNY

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    714
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    AZ
    Drama aside (and time heals), if we can get Hoffman for one of our 3rds, Coyotes should jump at it...they'd likely need to send salary back.
     
  20. AZviaNJ

    AZviaNJ @AZviaNJviaNY

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    714
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    AZ
    Dzingel is a bit of late bloomer, 3 years in college followed by 2 in the AHL., but still only 26. First 3 NHL seasons he's gone 14-18-32, 23-18-41 and already at 21-20-41 this year. He could be 30 goal/60 point guy. Another Illinois kid....Chayka seems to like those.
     
  21. cobra427

    cobra427 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Messages:
    6,038
    Likes Received:
    791
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Do we want to pay up for an impact UFA? We have a hat trick with Smith/Ribs/Goose as our high price UFA's so far. It's easy to make a small mistake or even a big mistake in UFA land.
     
  22. Jakey53

    Jakey53 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2011
    Messages:
    15,944
    Likes Received:
    1,571
    Trophy Points:
    139
    I was happy when we traded for Kuemper, then he proceeded to crap the bed last year and then on Team Canada or whatever tournament he was in. Thankfully, he shook that play, for now anyway.
     
  23. ducky

    ducky Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2002
    Messages:
    8,928
    Likes Received:
    1,400
    Trophy Points:
    184
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Renewable energy
    Location:
    BC
    I have no issues with the Smith and Goose signings.

    I would absolutely want Chayka to offer Stone a big UFA deal (like OEL kind of money). He makes everyone on the ice better.
     
  24. cobra427

    cobra427 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Messages:
    6,038
    Likes Received:
    791
    Trophy Points:
    109
    I am starting to think goal tending performance is more a function of our team D then the goal tender. Last year, the beginning was a train wreck no matter who was in net. The D was much better late last year when they were healthy and Raanta had that run. This year our D has been better even though we have had injuries and the goal tending has been solid.
     
    Neighborhood Coyote likes this.
  25. cobra427

    cobra427 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Messages:
    6,038
    Likes Received:
    791
    Trophy Points:
    109
    I didn't have issue with any of the 3 signings when they signed either. Smith had a career year, then had 5 shutouts in the strike shortened year. We needed a top C when Ribs signed. Goose was a need upgrade on D at the time. With 5 mill+ UFA's, you wind up with less than you pay for (generally).
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"