Captain Dave Poulin
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I'm pretty confident that I like Toews more than anyone else on this board. Know what I don't like? Trolls.
Wow. You’re right. Toews sucks. LolI'm struggling to think of a worse contract... $10.5m?!
The guy was the most overrated player in the league when the Blackhawks were good and now that they suck, he's being exposed. His entire rep was based on playing on a stacked team, while never even being their best player.
He fooled the fools and the idiots in the media.
I'm struggling to think of a worse contract... $10.5m?!
The guy was the most overrated player in the league when the Blackhawks were good and now that they suck, he's being exposed. His entire rep was based on playing on a stacked team, while never even being their best player.
He fooled the fools and the idiots in the media.
Doubling up on stupid. Well done.The funny thing is he would be the perfect 3rd line center for this team as a stop-gap of course. He is legitimately overpaid by 5.5 - 6.5 mil a year. Speaking of hawks and bad contracts Brandon Manning 2.25
Hextall’s only ever had great things to say about Voracek and gave him a max length extension a year in advance at a cap hit just below Giroux’s.
I’m also pretty sure JVR wasn’t signed because of his two way play and intangibles.
Ummm..you wouldn’t cream your pants if the Flyers traded Voracek for Toews?
You know Striker when you spew stuff like this it prove's to me you have never played the game before and do not understand the actual game in it's self . You sit here and spew the points points points but have no clue of what it takes to win . It blows my mind you love the fly boys buzzing on the outside collecting the points but fail to realize that someone has to do the heavy lifting . As Hatcher says { he is just a little extreme with it ] you need meat and potatoes to win in playoffs . Meat and potatoes boys with skill AKA Crosby , Toews ,Bergeron , Yzerman are the most important players on your team .I'm struggling to think of a worse contract... $10.5m?!
The guy was the most overrated player in the league when the Blackhawks were good and now that they suck, he's being exposed. His entire rep was based on playing on a stacked team, while never even being their best player.
He fooled the fools and the idiots in the media.
You know Striker when you spew stuff like this it prove's to me you have never played the game before and do not understand the actual game in it's self . You sit here and spew the points points points but have no clue of what it takes to win . It blows my mind you love the fly boys buzzing on the outside collecting the points but fail to realize that someone has to do the heavy lifting . As Hatcher says { he is just a little extreme with it ] you need meat and potatoes to win in playoffs . Meat and potatoes boys with skill AKA Crosby , Toews ,Bergeron , Yzerman are the most important players on your team .
I will also say this ; there ain't a Philly fan on here who would not give 5 years of Cap hell for 3 Stanley cups and neither would you , you just might just ***** about it a little more than others .
I'm not talking intangables , who got the hard matchups to shut down the other teams top line , who was the best at preventing goals ,who was the best faceoff man and the list goes on . You love Kane so much { you know your points guy } if he had to block a shot or go into the corner first he would piss his pants . Olympics , World Junior, Stanley Cups , a major contributor or MVP of all , but OOHH so overratedTHE INTANGIBLES, GUYS! THINK OF THE INTANGIBLES!
For $10.5m, I expect a little tangibility in my player, but maybe that's just me.
It's not as if I'm criticizing a strong two way player on a fair contract and saying everything other than offense is useless... I'm criticizing one of the highest paid players in the entire league and someone who was said to be the best player in the world. He's severely overpaid for what he's done for the last 3 years... sorry, but that's the truth.
You're right though, I've never played the game at a high level, but we should know by now that that doesn't automatically make someone knowledgeable. Look at how stupid so many ex-players are and how good some coaches/writers/analysts are that have never been a pro. Luckily, I seem to have picked up enough as a spectator to be able to see simple things like this, that apparently someone like yourself (what were your alleged credentials? coached your sons team or something? I don't remember...) doesn't seem to get. If you can't see how bad that contract is... well... yikes...
And I have no clue what this is about since this has zero relation to anything I said in that post.
Just feel ranting?
Ever notice whenever people defend Toews they mostly list team accomplishments? Interesting.I'm not talking intangables , who got the hard matchups to shut down the other teams top line , who was the best at preventing goals ,who was the best faceoff man and the list goes on . You love Kane so much { you know your points guy } if he had to block a shot or go into the corner first he would piss his pants . Olympics , World Junior, Stanley Cups , a major contributor or MVP of all , but OOHH so overrated
Credentials ya i have a few .
The ranting thing . it has to do with you nitpicking a couple of years and ignoring his value for the entire length of the contract .
Spectator does not include sitting on your couch watching it on TV. Total hockey watch in a one year span live for me is probably 130-140 games and that,s probably on the low side .
The ranting thing . it has to do with you nitpicking a couple of years and ignoring his value for the entire length of the contract .
What can you say to someone who is trying to discrédit Toews as a leader and champion You nailed it. Guys a winner. Simple as that.I'm not talking intangables , who got the hard matchups to shut down the other teams top line , who was the best at preventing goals ,who was the best faceoff man and the list goes on . You love Kane so much { you know your points guy } if he had to block a shot or go into the corner first he would piss his pants . Olympics , World Junior, Stanley Cups , a major contributor or MVP of all , but OOHH so overrated
Credentials ya i have a few .
The ranting thing . it has to do with you nitpicking a couple of years and ignoring his value for the entire length of the contract .
Spectator does not include sitting on your couch watching it on TV. Total hockey watch in a one year span live for me is probably 130-140 games and that,s probably on the low side .
If it takes Giroux and Couturier scoring under 100 points combined in 160 games to see the end of Hak then sign me up. There is simply no future for this team that involves winning playoff rounds with him as coach.
The Yzerman who scored 150 points early in his career bears little resemblance to the one who won Stanley Cups. I'm not much of an intangibles guy, but he did basically revamp his game, become more of a two-way player and was more unselfish.
It's kinda like the difference between Pat LaFontaine (early) and a slightly less gritty Doug Gilmour.
Exactly. Flyers have nothing that has winning written on it.You know Striker when you spew stuff like this it prove's to me you have never played the game before and do not understand the actual game in it's self . You sit here and spew the points points points but have no clue of what it takes to win . It blows my mind you love the fly boys buzzing on the outside collecting the points but fail to realize that someone has to do the heavy lifting . As Hatcher says { he is just a little extreme with it ] you need meat and potatoes to win in playoffs . Meat and potatoes boys with skill AKA Crosby , Toews ,Bergeron , Yzerman are the most important players on your team .
I will also say this ; there ain't a Philly fan on here who would not give 5 years of Cap hell for 3 Stanley cups and neither would you , you just might just ***** about it a little more than others .
or those two either.If it takes Giroux and Couturier scoring under 100 points combined in 160 games to see the end of Hak then sign me up. There is simply no future for this team that involves winning playoff rounds with him as coach.
Stevie Yzerman was considered a choker/bad leader at one point in his career all because his team weren’t winning championships. Detroit made some moves over time to keep a contender status & eventually broke through with more cracks at it. Now Yzerman is considered one of the best captains/leaders all time.
Bowman had him traded and would have kept primeau if he didn't start being a two way player. All players gotta play two way when it comes playoffs time.That was always such a load of complete ****, though, and drove me absolutely crazy from Day 1. He's my favorite non-Flyer ever, and I'm an admitted Stevepologist when it comes to anything about him, but I just never bought into any of that garbage.