League News: 2018-19 NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) Vol. 1

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AtNightWeFly

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This is still going on? :huh:
I'm just here to remind you that a punchable face in TO is about to make $11 mil for 80 points. And the other one will probably request the same amount...and this is starting to go in a really bad direction with a lockout on the horizon. I blame Captain Chicago and his intangibles for this.


I had no reaction at all when I heard the Emery news.
 

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Lindholm signs 6x4.85

Seems like overpayment with a decent chance to turn into a steal. Lindholm has a lot of untapped offensive potential.
 

Skrudland2Lomakin

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The main board reaction to Emery is so predictable. The guy had a lifetime of violence off the ice towards innocent people including his fiancee and yet now he's remembered as "troubled, but a good guy". I'm sorry, when does being "troubled" stop being called what it really is, being an a-hole?

These boards ripped Slava Voynov to pieces, and rightfully so, for assaulting his wife. What you wouldn't realize from reading them though is that Emery actually assaulted his fiancee multiple times and Voynov was only accused of doing it once. Emery assaulted multiple people through out his life too for menial things like road rage or putting a hate on his head.

He's dead, people are afraid of death so they treat it with a magical reverence. We all die though, it's not special and it doesn't make you instantly a saint. Remember how people acted when they're living, that's the key.
 

VaCaps Fan

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I prefer to remember Ray with the Chicago Blackhawks in the 2013 season. Chicago's organization was able to bring the best play out of him and have him be a team player as a (backup) goalie. Still, a deeply troubled and violent man....
 

Alexander the Gr8

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That is the exact point that I was making, but I didn't want to look up the numbers. Everyone is on the Stanley Cup high, and Ovechkin's contract has worked out well, so people don't want to nit pick.

The fact of the matter is, his cap hit was higher than it needed to be IMO. Seven years as the highest cap hit in the NHL is not a "value" contract.

Tell me, what do you think about McDavid making $12M per year?
 
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ALLCAPSALLTHETIME

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What's wrong with RMNB? I like that they cover some goofy stuff the Post won't touch.

Read the link. Peter Hasset has the article about Ray Emery passing away. In the comments, he grandstands and, I believe it is called “virtue signalling” about how Ray Emery had been accused of domestic assault in the past.

I, for one, didn’t appreciate Ray Emery beating down Holtby, nor did I approve of a lot of his life decisions. However, the man just died a tragic death at 35 years old. There is decorum and common decency that needs to be followed. Don’t speak ill of the dead.

I have enjoyed RMNB over the years and they have had some pretty good content but I can’t support PH’s actions. I won’t support them anymore unless he issues a retraction.
 
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ALLCAPSALLTHETIME

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If a person deserves to be spoken ill of, they deserve to be spoken ill of. It's not a matter of "insensitive"; either the opinion is right or it's not.

The way I was raised was that certain things are taboo. What he did is one of those things.

He clearly crossed the line in my opinion and in many of his reader’s opinions.

People can disagree with me and that’s their right.
 

discobob

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Tell me, what do you think about McDavid making $12M per year?

It's a fair deal for what he's worth. It's not going to be comparable to the Ovechkin situation because his cap hit will only top the NHL for 1-2 years. The Caps got screwed a little by the proliferation of cap circumventing contracts. Whether you think they should / shouldn't have given OV a contract like that is kind of irrelevant - the net result was that his contract cap hit has not "faded" in the way that other contracts have. His play has stayed at a high level, frankly in a way that is shocking, so it hasn't been a problem.
 

Alexander the Gr8

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It's a fair deal for what he's worth. It's not going to be comparable to the Ovechkin situation because his cap hit will only top the NHL for 1-2 years. The Caps got screwed a little by the proliferation of cap circumventing contracts. Whether you think they should / shouldn't have given OV a contract like that is kind of irrelevant - the net result was that his contract cap hit has not "faded" in the way that other contracts have. His play has stayed at a high level, frankly in a way that is shocking, so it hasn't been a problem.

The purpose of a cap circumventing contract is to lower the actual salary in the latter years of the contract and to have an averaged out cap hit over the duration of the contract. Kovalchuk's contract was bullshit, the Devils were going to find a way out of it eventually because that's what Lou does.

We signed Ovi to a fair deal and Leonsis has made hundreds of millions in the Ovechkin era.
 

mad4comp

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Read the link. Peter Hasset has the article about Ray Emery passing away. In the comments, he grandstands and, I believe it is called “virtue signalling” about how Ray Emery had been accused of domestic assault in the past.

I, for one, didn’t appreciate Ray Emery beating down Holtby, nor did I approve of a lot of his life decisions. However, the man just died a tragic death at 35 years old. There is decorum and common decency that needs to be followed. Don’t speak ill of the dead.

I have enjoyed RMNB over the years and they have had some pretty good content but I can’t support PH’s actions. I won’t support them anymore unless he issues a retraction.

I'm sorry, but what? Are we talking about the same asshat that snorts coke with random escorts and beats his girlfriends? Good Riddance.
 

Devil Dancer

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Read the link. Peter Hasset has the article about Ray Emery passing away. In the comments, he grandstands and, I believe it is called “virtue signalling” about how Ray Emery had been accused of domestic assault in the past.

I, for one, didn’t appreciate Ray Emery beating down Holtby, nor did I approve of a lot of his life decisions. However, the man just died a tragic death at 35 years old. There is decorum and common decency that needs to be followed. Don’t speak ill of the dead.

I have enjoyed RMNB over the years and they have had some pretty good content but I can’t support PH’s actions. I won’t support them anymore unless he issues a retraction.

Thanks for the explanation, I really do appreciate it. I take a very different approach to the dead, but to each their own.
 

AtNightWeFly

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The main board reaction to Emery is so predictable. The guy had a lifetime of violence off the ice towards innocent people including his fiancee and yet now he's remembered as "troubled, but a good guy". I'm sorry, when does being "troubled" stop being called what it really is, being an a-hole?

These boards ripped Slava Voynov to pieces, and rightfully so, for assaulting his wife. What you wouldn't realize from reading them though is that Emery actually assaulted his fiancee multiple times and Voynov was only accused of doing it once. Emery assaulted multiple people through out his life too for menial things like road rage or putting a hate on his head.

He's dead, people are afraid of death so they treat it with a magical reverence. We all die though, it's not special and it doesn't make you instantly a saint. Remember how people acted when they're living, that's the key.

Well said and I fully agree.
But what does the bolded mean? I don't think I've ever heard this phrase.
 

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The way I was raised was that certain things are taboo. What he did is one of those things.

He clearly crossed the line in my opinion and in many of his reader’s opinions.

People can disagree with me and that’s their right.

I appreciate this post not necessarily because I agree with the opinion but the last line needs to be remembered with every post made in a forum.

My own, ihmo, on this subject are one's actions in life are what are used for the scales one views ones after death. The dead feel no shame.
 

discobob

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The purpose of a cap circumventing contract is to lower the actual salary in the latter years of the contract and to have an averaged out cap hit over the duration of the contract. Kovalchuk's contract was bull****, the Devils were going to find a way out of it eventually because that's what Lou does.

We signed Ovi to a fair deal and Leonsis has made hundreds of millions in the Ovechkin era.

I understand why people say it is "unfair" but it seems to me similar to the changing rule set within the league. There was a period of time where interference wasn't being called according the rule book. Teams took advantage of that and it helped them win games.

Those "unfair" contracts were similar, they advantaged the teams that gave them out. By not using that structure, the Caps were put at a disadvantage with Ovechkin's contract. You can argue that it's the leagues fault for allowing this to happen, or you could blame the Caps for not taking advantage. I'm not sure I really care that much where the blame goes. The part that is undeniable is that the end result was a contract that is ONLY deemed successful because of Ovechkin's otherworldly play and longevity. So yes, I agree it has turned out to be a fair deal, I'm glad he's a Cap, and the cup is awesome.
 

ALLCAPSALLTHETIME

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I'm sorry, but what? Are we talking about the same asshat that snorts coke with random escorts and beats his girlfriends? Good Riddance.

I would rather have had Ray Emery turn his life around and had a wonderful redemption story. He had a troubled life and died a tragic death.

I’m not defending his actions but mocking the dead just doesn’t sit right with me. Agree to disagree.
 

g00n

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By the time you're 35 you've had enough time to stop being a butthole.
 
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