2018-19 Laval Rocket & ECHL Thread

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  1. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

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    a less skilled, less defensive, less puck controling ability Eller maybe but he's far from Eller's level at the same age.
     
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  2. Adam Michaels

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    Very true.

    And it makes it so much easier for Alzner who can stay living at his home with his family. The commute is a bit longer, but he can still go home to sleep.

    Imagine them still being in St. John's. That would hurt a little more.
     
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    Dude, it's a trade of minor leaguers. they were both failing 1st rd choices and Rychel can't skate.

    This year's AHL team does have fewer than usual number of NHL quality prospects (which is usually only 4-5 anyway) but Shinkaruk was a 1st rd choice for some reason. There's no guarantee Rychel does better in Laval. He still can't skate and the team is thin--really thin--and he can't skate.

    Then again, your boy Danny Kristo is on his 2nd Euro team this year, down a level, and still hasn't played in the NHL and you can't blame Lefebvre or being rushed or not getting his chance. Remember that "terrible trade"?

    It's still a trade of minor leaguers. Meh.
     
  5. Mrb1p

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    Yup. Hope Alzner doesn't live in Brossard. He better move, if he does.
     
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    Not really. It could be me that's off. When I watch him play I see some big flaws, such as overplaying his angles, not being square, flopping too much.

    Perhaps my standards are too high, but a sub-.900 save percentage in the AHL does not inspire a high level of confidence.

    Your mileage may vary.
     
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    Let’s look at his save percentage in a few weeks after 10-15 games with Alzner, Mete, and Fleury on D. I’m going to gamble that it will improve.

    Unless Lindgren caught some weird Carey Price bug, I don’t see how he could go from on the cusp of the NHL to shouldn’t be in AHL.

    I still have some confidence in Lindgren, ... and Price, too.
     
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    Who cares if Shinkaruk is faster than Rychel if he does nothing with it?

    Rychel is tied 2nd on his team for points (1st in goal).

    Shinkaruk is tied 13th on his team for points (also tied 13th for goals with 1 goal).

    We traded a physical AHL goalscorer for a guy that can't even bother to play decent AHL hockey. At 24 years old, he's one of the vet on this team. He needs to start playing like it.

    This trade has been an absolute win for Calgary, even if it's a minor league deal.
     
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    Shinkaruk's days are numbered the guy will be in the Swiss league in no time.
     
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    Yeah, The Rychel vs Shinkaruk trade didn't make sense on a hockey stand point, maybe there's things we don't know.
     
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    agreed, he's been in the doghouse from the sounds of it, and being a healthy scratch which as a 5th year in the AHL is telling right there as you can bet if Rychel was back with Laval this year he wouldn't be a healthy scratch since this team sorely needs goals.

    I'm just shocked that a guy that clearly had a lot of skill since he put up 49 goals as a 17 year old and in his 2nd AHL season had 51 pts yet he's on pace for less then 20 pts. Had hoped he would have come in knowing it's likely his last shot to turn things around before heading to the Euro leagues but unless his game does a quick 180 I don't see it happening and he'll likely be in the Swiss league or one of the Euro leagues by next year.

    for sure, perhaps Rychel wanted a one way and MB knew he wouldn't get it here so he gave him a shot somewhere else. We can only guess as to the situation, but with trading Rychel, Taormina, Valiev, it certainly hasn't helped the team. Although despite their goal scoring troubles they are a much better team this year to watch, so much better structurally in their own end and that's with 3 rookies dressed each night.
     
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    Schedule is also way easier. They play this Saturday at 3pm then don't play again til Friday, December 7th at night. It's Friday, Saturday & Wednesday for all of December, and there's a second 1 week break. The bus trip probably sucks, but overall it's not bad.
     
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    Generally, if you swap a productive AHLer for another AHLer, you expect the receiving piece to contribute close to equally as the one you traded away.

    Rychel might be slow but he has twice more goals than Shinkaruk has points... And Laval is starving for goals.
     
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    I liked Rychel. He wasn't made for the NHL but he has what it takes to be productive in the AHL. There must've been something in the negotiations that prompted Habs to make the trade.

    Both players signed one-year, two-way deals after the trade. Rychel makes $75K more than Shinkaruk and $20K more in the minors. That is not the type of money Habs care to save.

    Shinkaruk skates better but Rychel produces more.
     
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    Reportedly, Rychel wanted a one-way deal. On paper, Laval would be getting someone with proven scoring skills, to play in Laval. Neither player is a prospect so unless you're a Laval fan and have forgotten that it's all about the CH, then it's one of those things that happens. Don't forget Josef Balej netted Kovalev. Bergevin got Vanek for Collberg, which wasn't as big a loss as everyone thought at the time. Meh. Minor leaguers. I'm far more interested in the actual prospects. Trouble is Laval might only have 2-3: a goalie, a defenseman and maybe a forward.
     
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    I'm keeping that in case someone ask me how crazy hockey discussions get online.
     
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    Q: Can they call back Ahlzner at will now that he's cleared waivers?
     
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  21. Adam Michaels

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    Yes. Re-entry waivers doesn't exist anymore. So they can call him up whenever they want. And as soon as he's recalled, the countdown clock to send him back down without placing him through waivers again starts. And the countdown is either 30 days or 10 games, whichever of those two comes first.
     
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    Who cares? We could send Alzner through waivers 30 times this season and he would clear everytime...
     
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    Their PP is disgraceful
     
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    1 - 1. Hopefully future Rocket's defenseman has an assist. Brennan has more skill offensively than Benn, Ouellet, Kulak, Alzner. Probably equal to Reilly at this point if not better. Defensive game is a struggle like a bunch of PMD.

    Habs should really look to sign him this offseason or even acquire this season.
     
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    There must be an excellent reason why Brennan is a career AHL d-man... Don't you think ?
     

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