2018-19 Laval Rocket & ECHL Thread (Part II)

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[canadiensnation]

UFA's 2019:
-Morgan Adams Moison
-Alex Belzile
-Ryan Culkin
-Alexandre Grenier
-Nikita Jevpalovs
-TJ Melancon

RFA's 2019:
-Daniel Audette
-Michael McCarron
-Brett Lernout
-Gustav Olofsson
-Xavier Ouellet
-Hunter Shinkaruk

UFA's to keep: Belzile, Jevpalovs, Grenier, Culkin

RFA's to keep: Ouellet, Olofsson, McCarron, maybe Lernout.

 

[Agalloch]

My guess for next year: (I expect Poehling and Juulsen to start in the NHL)

Forwards (14)
Alain
Belzile
Deslauriers
Evans
Jevpalovs
Grenier
Peca (if not traded)
Pezzetta
Teasdale
Vejdemo
Verbeek
Suzuki
Waked
AHL VET (à la Byron, Agostino...)

Defensemen (8)
Alzner (if not traded)
Brook
Fleury
Lamarche
Olofsson
Ouellet (or another vet)
Sklenicka
Walford (if signed)

Goalies (2)
McNiven
Primeau

Not qualified: Audette, McCarron, Shinkaruk and Lernout

Lineup:

UFA VET*-Evans-Suzuki
Jevpalovs-Vejdemo-Belzile
Deslauriers*-Peca*-Grenier*
Teasdale-Pezzetta-Alain
Waked, Verbeek

Ouellet*-Fleury
Alzner*-Brook
Oloffson-Lamarche
Walford
Sklenicka

Goalies split the games 38/38

* Veterans (no more than 5, UFA, Deslauriers, Peca, Ouellet, Grenier and Alzner)

 

[ahmedou]

UFA's to keep: Belzile, Jevpalovs, Grenier, Culkin

RFA's to keep: Ouellet, Olofsson, McCarron, maybe Lernout.

Your description about Culkin?

 

[dcal64]

UFA's to keep: Belzile, Jevpalovs, Grenier, Culkin

RFA's to keep: Ouellet, Olofsson, McCarron, maybe Lernout.

Why do people want to keep Grenier?

He's considered a vet, we should be signing vets that are top 6, not bottom 6 like Grenier.

 

[Agalloch]

Why do people want to keep Grenier?

He's considered a vet, we should be signing vets that are top 6, not bottom 6 like Grenier.

He will be better next year.

I would sign J-S Dea for next year.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Why do people want to keep Grenier?

He's considered a vet, we should be signing vets that are top 6, not bottom 6 like Grenier.

Top-6 whrre? In the NHL or AHL?

 

[ahmedou]

I would sign J-S Dea for next year.

Bring the best Laval'ers boys as possible. Even why not Sam Poulin one day...

 

[Number 57]

I'm going with

Peca - Poehling - Belzile
JS Dea - Evans - Suzuki
Kevin Roy - Vejdemo - Weise
Verbeek - Teasdale - Alain
*Jevpalovs, Pezzetta, Waked

Kulak - Brook
Ouellet - Fleury
Alzner - Sklenicka
*Walford, Koberstein, Tyszka

Primeau - McNiven - LaCouvee

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

I'm going with

Peca - Poehling - Belzile
JS Dea - Evans - Suzuki
Kevin Roy - Vejdemo - Weise
Verbeek - Teasdale - Alain
*Jevpalovs, Pezzetta, Waked

Kulak - Brook
Ouellet - Fleury
Alzner - Sklenicka
*Walford, Koberstein, Tyszka

Primeau - McNiven - LaCouvee

Doubt Kulak starts in the AHL, but you can add Olofsson though.

 

[Treb]

I'm going with

Peca - Poehling - Belzile
JS Dea - Evans - Suzuki
Kevin Roy - Vejdemo - Weise
Verbeek - Teasdale - Alain
*Jevpalovs, Pezzetta, Waked

Kulak - Brook
Ouellet - Fleury
Alzner - Sklenicka
*Walford, Koberstein, Tyszka

Primeau - McNiven - LaCouvee

Lamarche is still under contract. I don't think Kulak pass waiver after last year. I doubt Koberstein get signed even to a AHL deal.


Carr/Terry/Reid Boucher/Anthony Greco/Chris Mueller/ Greg Carey - Evans - Belzile
Peca - Poehling - Suzuki
JS Dea/ Kevin Roy/ Grenier /some QC FA - Vejdemo - McCarron
Teasdale - Matthew Struthers - Vladimir Bryukvin
Pezzetta, Alain , Verbeek
ECHL: Waked,Phelix Martineau, Joe Cox

Some of Peter Abbandonato, Jeremy McKenna, Samuel Asselin, Nicolas Guay, Raphael Harvé-Pinard, Tristan Langan, Parker Aucoin, Max Gerlach, Ryan Hughes, Kevin Hancock, Greg Meireles, Anthony Salinitri, Austen Keating, Alex Limoges, Blake Christensen, Marc Michaelis for either AHL spare (moving the spares to ECHL) or ECHL.

Ouellet - Fleury
Alzner - Brook
Cam Lee - Olofsson
Lamarche, Walford, Otto Leskinen

ECHL: Tyszka, Culkin
Some of CE D'Astous, Dawson Davidson, Nicholas Mattinen (same as forwards)

McNiven
Primeau

ECHL: Lacouvee, Samuel Harvey

 

[HABitual Fan]

VET Forward-Evans-Suzuki
Peca-Poehling-VET forward
Teasdale-Vejdemo-Hudon,McCarron ,Audette or similar FA with less than 260 pro games played
Verbeek-Jevpalovs-Weise/Deslauriers
Weise/Deslauriers and a guy who has played less than 260 pro games with AHL/NHL experience

Ouellet-Fleury
Alzner-Brook
Olofsson-Sklenica
Lamarche and a guy with less than 260 games played, priority being a PP specialist

McNiven
Primeau

Unless you can make Alzner, Weise, or Deslauriers disappear this is about all you can do, with the AHL vet rule. You can dress only 5 who have played over 320 pro games, and one who has played over 260 games which is what Peca is, having played 263 games. All the leftover signed guys and any new ones go to the ECHL till injuries and Habs callups start.

If you want to win games the team needs to spend money to get quality vets and support players, and stop trying to appease the local crowd by signing ECHL quality local guys and former Q players, if you feel the need, sign them and put them in the ECHL to develop. It takes serious depth to compete over a full season in the AHL as they found out last year, and you need to start the season with a much better full roster than they have had in the last years.

Being forced to play guys like Weise and Deslauriers eat the spots you had for guys like Pezzetta and Waked so they go to the ECHL. On defense Alzner takes the spot of a vet PP specialist like TJ Brennan so you need to try and find a less experienced one.

If you sign Walford and Tyszka they need to play everyday in the ECHL to develop.The same for a goalie like Harvey. It may even be necessary to do the same for Primeau in the first part of the season, and sign a veteran back-up for McNiven so he and Primeau can play more than a 50/50 split.

 

[Guilliam]

Wow you guys really think Poehling will be in Laval next year? I say not a chance.

 

[Treb]

Wow you guys really think Poehling will be in Laval next year? I say not a chance.

It's only 1 game. Top 6 AHL would be better than 4th line NHL for him IMO. If he makes the NHL top 9 sure (which would mean one of Danault/Lehkonen/Drouin/Byron probably gets traded for some LD).

 

[Guilliam]

It's only 1 game. Top 6 AHL would be better than 4th line NHL for him IMO. If he makes the NHL top 9 sure (which would mean one of Danault/Lehkonen/Drouin/Byron probably gets traded for some LD).

I know this is being said over and over around here but I don't think it's always true and I especially not in Poehling's case. He's a sound 200 ft player and he's already physically ready for the big league. The rest is being accustomed to the speed of the game and gaining experience, stuff you can't really do in the A. I say play him on the 4th line to start with the likes of Weal and Byron. I think it would be a perfect situation for him.

 

[HABitual Fan]

Wow you guys really think Poehling will be in Laval next year? I say not a chance.

I think it will depend more on what position Bergevin manages to sign a UFA to play. If .it is a center no need to rush him to the NHL.

 

[montreal]

Wow you guys really think Poehling will be in Laval next year? I say not a chance.

I don't think he will but it's kind of a waste of time to try to figure out the lineup in April.

 

[Doxinoctae]

With Folin signing (and who knows if Benn will be extended), the Habs may just be ensuring that if Juulsen isn't ready to crack the Habs out of camp, he can start in Laval.

Imagine Laval's RD if Juulsen starts there: Juulsen, Brook, Fleury.

let's say mtl - laval d-corp :

[UFA] Weber(C)
Kulak Petry(A)
[UFA] [UFA]
Reilly Folin

Mete Juulsen(A)
Romanov Fleury
Ouellet(C) Brooks
Scklenicka Lernout
Alzner
​

With the third unit been totally open I would try to force a competition between the laval top 4d at least 3/4 of the season (to be ready for playoff push), until then i would hire young guy ufa or trade for rfa like Joel Edmundson with picks or Byron.

Juulsen been paired with Mete to lead Laval to the series could definitely be a boost and if habs do not make the cut for the playoff next year, well the young crew can definitely have their own run in ahl series. That's what i call a win-win situation for them actually. With Bouchard things are going to be pretty something if he can have this lineup in hands.

If he can also have a forward group like that :

Vejdemo Poehling Suzuki
Audette Belzile Grenier
Jevpalovs Teasdale Evans
Deslauriers Verbeek Alain
Pezzetta Shinkaruk Waked​

with our 2 young goalies

Primeau
McNiven

​

i guess he can produce few miracles. Am I off the chart or is it realistic to preach such vision? Should Habs shops for d-man this summer??​

 

[Habs4Life]

let's say mtl - laval d-corp :

[UFA] Weber(C)
Kulak Petry(A)
[UFA] [UFA]
Reilly Folin

Mete Juulsen(A)
Romanov Fleury
Ouellet(C) Brooks
Scklenicka Lernout
Alzner
​

With the third unit been totally open I would try to force a competition between the laval top 4d at least 3/4 of the season (to be ready for playoff push), until then i would hire young guy ufa or trade for rfa like Joel Edmundson with picks or Byron.

Juulsen been paired with Mete to lead Laval to the series could definitely be a boost and if habs do not make the cut for the playoff next year, well the young crew can definitely have their own run in ahl series. That's what i call a win-win situation for them actually. With Bouchard things are going to be pretty something if he can have this lineup in hands.

If he can also have a forward group like that :

Vejdemo Poehling Suzuki
Audette Belzile Grenier
Jevpalovs Teasdale Evans
Deslauriers Verbeek Alain
Pezzetta Shinkaruk Waked​

with our 2 young goalies

Primeau
McNiven

​

i guess he can produce few miracles. Am I off the chart or is it realistic to preach such vision? Should Habs shops for d-man this summer??​

Evans on the 3rd line?

 

[Doxinoctae]

Evans on the 3rd line?

yeah but not in a concern of depth chart spot. On ly to give teasdale and jevpalovs a good scorer to see what they can bring on the table. the second unit could be our 3rd unit too depend on how well the evans unit can perform, and since they are in laval a french connection line is also a wink to their culture!

 

[Number 57]

Poehling in Laval for 20 ish games makes sense, it did wonder for Mete and he didn't even stay that long. Don't forget we have a ton of depth up front, which is a good thing. I doubt Bergevin starts the year with Weise, Hudon, Peca, Deslauriers, etc ALL in Laval

Then Poehling comes up around Christmas when we have injuries or when Bergevin decides to get rid of some dead wood, depending on who plays well or not

 

[Tyson]

Don’t forget Fleury who had a good rookie season and has one complete season of AHL experience

 

[Habs4Life]

yeah but not in a concern of depth chart spot. On ly to give teasdale and jevpalovs a good scorer to see what they can bring on the table. the second unit could be our 3rd unit too depend on how well the evans unit can perform, and since they are in laval a french connection line is also a wink to their culture!

He was our best player in the AHL first year, why wouldn't you play him on the first line he earned it and I'm sure he will be better because he probably learned alot. This is a good way to ruin prospects