Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[Lt Dan]

It makes no sense honestly.

One is Russian one is a good old North American boy.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

One is Russian one is a good old North American boy.

Slava should show up to the NHL offices waving a tiny American flag while his attorney plays this tune on his ghetto blaster.

 

[Lt Dan]

Slava should show up to the NHL offices waving a tiny American flag while his attorney plays this tune on his ghetto blaster.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Slava should show up to the NHL offices waving a tiny American flag while his attorney plays this tune on his ghetto blaster.

Ahh, those were the good old days of wrestling. Demolition, strike force, the rockers, the bushwackers. Jake the snake roberts, ravishing rick rude.

 

[Reaper45]

Slava should show up to the NHL offices waving a tiny American flag while his attorney plays this tune on his ghetto blaster.

I got really drunk once and sang that whole song to a chick at a bar. Had her convinced my last name was Rougeau.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

At this point of his career, Carter should be transitioning into a depth winger who can be counted to chip in 20 or so.

If we could actually develop an impact forward, this wouldn’t be a problem.

 

[Reaper45]

At this point of his career, Carter should be transitioning into a depth winger who can be counted to chip in 20 or so.

If we could actually develop an impact forward, this wouldn’t be a problem.

I mean aside from Toffoli who's decent and Pearson, it's been pretty barren for a long time. I trip out on teams like Tampa Bay.

 

[kingsfan28]

I mean aside from Toffoli who's decent and Pearson, it's been pretty barren for a long time. I trip out on teams like Tampa Bay.

Because Tampa wasn't trading away high picks and were drafting guys who could score, not "high on character" who can't.

 

[kingsfan28]

Why did it take Watson's case 4 months but taking Voynov's a lifetime.

Hurry the **** up NHL.

They've been too busy figuring out which year the Hawks and Rangers will be playing in the upcoming Winter Classics.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Because Tampa wasn't trading away high picks and were drafting guys who could score, not "high on character" who can't.

They’ve also found a number of highly talented guys outside of the first round. Something the Kings haven’t had much luck with.

 

[Bandit]

They’ve also found a number of highly talented guys outside of the first round. Something the Kings haven’t had much luck with.

They also haven't won a Stanley Cup in 14 years.

 

[Minor Boarding]

They’ve also found a number of highly talented guys outside of the first round. Something the Kings haven’t had much luck with.

Al Murray doing a fine job drafting there.

 

[kingsfan28]

They’ve also found a number of highly talented guys outside of the first round. Something the Kings haven’t had much luck with.

I'm pretty sure Tampa never had a coach who would "scare the scoring right out of them" as someone in the media once said of Sutter. Imagine if Brayden Point missed a check or tried to create a scoring chance and failed, then get benched for 2 weeks?

 

[kingsfan28]

Al Murray doing a fine job drafting there.

He's had a lot of help. the 2011 draft is where he somehow hit gold. Tampa got 5 current NHLers from that draft. That same guy never did anywhere near that kind of job in the 12 years as head of scouting for the Kings. He singlehandedly screwed up the 2003 draft, which when you think about it, was pretty hard to do.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

They also haven't won a Stanley Cup in 14 years.

That they haven’t, but a Stanley Cup run in 2015 and two Conference Championship series appearances over the past three seasons is an indication of a team on the cusp of getting there. They have the depth and necessary pieces to go far.

 

[kingsboy11]

So if we look at the roster as it sits right now, taking into accounts injuries with Vilardi and Forbort:

Kovalchuk-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
Iafallo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Thompson-xxxxx

Muzzin-Doughty
Phaneuf-Martinez
Fantenberg-Ladue

Quick/Campbell

players who don't require waivers: Amadio, Brickley, Rempal
players who do have to pass waivers: MacDermid, Fantenberg, Brodzinski, Lintuniemi, Mitchell

Vilardi is up in the air, but I think if he's healthy at all in training camp I think he makes the team. Forbort will for sure be on the team and appears close to being ready. I think it's unlikely the team goes with 8 defensemen so we have about 3 forward spots available and the 7th defensemen. I think Amadio and Brodzinski make the team for sure. I think Brickley makes the team as I think Stevens and Blake really like him.

I kind of have a theory if Vilardi is still injured by the time the season starts. Could Vilardi start the season on IR and have a guy like Rempal in his spot and then when Vilardi is ready give him a conditioning assignment in Ontario and then when its done take him off IR and swap him with Rempal? I think its possible to do this, but I just need someone to confirm this. Because I just don't see the point in sending Vilardi back to the OHL anymore, he's just too good.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

I still see the Kings starting the year with...

Kovy--Kopitar--Brown
Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Iafallo--Kempe--Lewis
Etem--Amadio--Brodzinski
Clifford, Thompson

Brickley--Doughty
Phanuef--Martinez
Muzzin--LaDue
Fantenberg

IR: Forbort, Vilardi

They will trade Thompson when one of those guys gets healthy.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

That 2nd line makes me cringe....I'm over it. If Toffoli looks anything like last year, demote him immediately.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

It's funny how much a year changes things.

This time last year people were proclaiming Kopitar dead and Carter the real 1C after putting up 66 points.

Turns out injuries affect people.

I'm as worried about Carter (and as Axl points out there's a lot riding on his wingers' shoulders now) as anyone but I need to see him on the ice before I start thinking about our future 2C.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I mean aside from Toffoli who's decent and Pearson, it's been pretty barren for a long time. I trip out on teams like Tampa Bay.

But why? They had been terrible for some time, and accumulated many high picks. They had an absolute monster 2011 draft, but aside from that, if you swapped the team name with the Kings, people would be crapping on them here instead. No one regularly on the roster from 2015 until now (which is a regular criticism point around here). Cirelli may be on the cusp. Brayden Point in 2014 is huge, but the rest of their draft was crap (DeAngelo in the 1st). Drouin is their Hickey, but at least he turned into Sergachev. Koekkoek is apparently on the Forbort development path. Outside of Hedman and Stamkos, they actually have gotten just about nothing out of their first round picks for a decade. Outside of the first as Ziggy mentions is nice--Point, Kucherov (2nd) and Palat (7th--but he's regressed) in 2011, but before that, have to go all the way back to 2007 for Killorn.

They've actually done good stuff outside the draft--like Gourde and Tyler Johnson. But people are mistaking their acquisitions for drafting too. And the constant criticism around here is about drafting impact forwards directly--so if we're going to start giving credit for acquisitions...

Anyway, point overall is if you look at each team's draft history, you'll notice just as many swings and misses and faults--just different ones reflective often of an organization's philosophy. Look how soft and pathetic Tampa Bay looked when it was time to perform. They're one playoff round loss away from being Sharks 2.0.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Kings will not lose assets for nothing - this has happened in the past and many article have been written about those mistakes.

Amadio and Brickley to down to Ontario. Kings will likely keep Brodzinski, Fattenberg and MacDermid all up - since they all require waivers.

Kovy-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson- Carter-Toffoli
Iaffalo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Thompson-Etem
Brodzinski

Doughty-Muzzin
Martinez-Martinez
Phaneuf-LaDue
Extra: Fattenberg and MacD

The issue becomes if the Kings sign Etem and Forbort comes back. Then Fattenberg likely goes down. And if Vilardi emerges in camp soon and makes a statement then the King’s either don’t sign Etem or they do and send him down.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Not sure why people are already penciling in Etem.

Guy scored 3 goals in a Kings vs Kings game.

His career highs are lower than Thompson, Clifford, and Nick Shore.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Gourde was never drafted, playing in the ECHL at the age of 22, and only becoming a productive NHL player at 25. That's like Spencer Watson doing the same thing about 3 years from now. Anyone expecting that? That's the sort of thing that successful teams have happen. That's what makes or breaks a contender. The unexpected production in any given year. See Dwight King in 2012.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Etem has scored 7 goals a few times. Clifford scored 7 once and Shore never scored more than 6. Etem has also barely played a full season in his entire career. Most he has played is 50 games.

 

[yankeeking]

That they haven’t, but a Stanley Cup run in 2015 and two Conference Championship series appearances over the past three seasons is an indication of a team on the cusp of getting there. They have the depth and necessary pieces to go far.