Prospect Info: 2018-19 Flyers Prospects - Top 30 SKATERS, #19

Who is the Flyers #19 SKATER prospect?

  • Fazleev, Radel

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Tripod

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It’s not crazy but you can’t put too much stock into the WJC. He played for Belarus. He was playing 25 minutes a game which is absurd usage for a forward. And he got a bunch of points in the relegation round. I have Sushko in this tier of players, but I think his potential is a high end 4th liner (I’ve thought this since before the infamous Hextall comments).
As do I. In no way was I saying all that and also voting him in as a top 10 prospect. I just think that he deserves credit for playing at levels above what others have been able to reach. Especially since he played well at those levels.
 
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Appleyard

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Kalynuk's stats in his final USHL year were pretty good given league scoring levels and him being a Dman.

People often just see USHL and think CHL level stats, but scoring is lower.

Only 10 Dmen in the league got over 0.50 PPG in 16-17. He was 7th overall, 5th amongst guys his age and younger


In terms of his stats in college this year.

PP: 2g, 12a
EV: 1g, 10a

Is what he put up.
 

Rebels57

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It’s not crazy but you can’t put too much stock into the WJC. He played for Belarus. He was playing 25 minutes a game which is absurd usage for a forward. And he got a bunch of points in the relegation round. I have Sushko in this tier of players, but I think his potential is a high end 4th liner (I’ve thought this since before the infamous Hextall comments).

Magua can chime in, but from what I saw he’s a big, well balanced skater, with good edgework as was mentioned. He’s just not quick twitch or particularly fast. The hope is that this is a kid that had a late growth spurt and maybe he’s doing some catch up in terms of his physical development.

Yeah, this is my line of thinking on Sushko as well. Pretty damn good prospect for where we are in our rankings though.
 

Ghosts Beer

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Kalynuk's stats in his final USHL year were pretty good given league scoring levels and him being a Dman.

People often just see USHL and think CHL level stats, but scoring is lower.

Only 10 Dmen in the league got over 0.50 PPG in 16-17. He was 7th overall, 5th amongst guys his age and younger


In terms of his stats in college this year.

PP: 2g, 12a
EV: 1g, 10a

Is what he put up.
That’s true, but he was still a 19 year old playing in the USHL. How many defensemen his age in the USHL in 16/17 are considered legit NHL prospects?

That said, his numbers for Wisconsin were good. Granted, he was a freshman at an age most are sophomores or juniors, but it was still encouraging for a 7th rd. pick. I don’t begrudge anyone for preferring one prospect over another in this tier of players who are likely to be role playing NHLers on the off chance they make it.
 

deadhead

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Actually, the fact that we're arguing how to rank #19-22, all of whom have legitimate shots at making the NHL, is a bit of an improvement over say five years ago, when we'd be arguing over #9-10, who were both marginal NHL prospects.
 

David St Hubbins

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Actually, the fact that we're arguing how to rank #19-22, all of whom have legitimate shots at making the NHL, is a bit of an improvement over say five years ago, when we'd be arguing over #9-10, who were both marginal NHL prospects.

Very true - It wasnt long ago that NAK was considered one of our very best prospects ...
 

Magua

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I think you're overrating Kalynuk because like a lot of people here, you overrate offensive skills in defense.
Kalynuk's USHL stats at 19 aren't very impressive, which makes a one year jump in college at 20 more suspect.
60g 6-25 31 +3
Friedman was more impressive in his last USHL season. 51g 10-30 40 +22 at 18 years old.
Friedman pretty much flatlined after a solid freshman year, so let's see what Kalynuk does.
Kalynuk freshman season: 37g 3-22 25 -11 v Friedman's sophomore year: 42g 6-17 23 +8
The difference in +/- could be a fluke, or a reflection of different roles, Kalynuk scoring more b/c he was being more aggressive.
Or because most of Kalynuk's scoring is assists, generous scorers, what were his P1 numbers?

Ginning is not going to put up big numbers, but at 18 he was starting 28 SHL and 7 SHL PO games, a level well above the NCAA.

If Kalynuk builds on his freshman year, I'll take him more seriously. But right now I see him more as a flash in the pan.

Have you watched 1 game of Kalynuk?
 
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LegionOfDoom91

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Have you watched 1 game of Kalynuk?

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Hockeypete49

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There is someone who made the WJC in their draft+1 season AND played well there. And was a PPG in the OHL.

Meanwhile Bunny was worse statistically in his draft +2 season than his previous season.

He doesn't deserve top 20. He might be #23...
I hope for the best for us as fans go but really the young man does nothing for me. Prove me wrong bunny.
 

deadhead

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I like to work out watching the games, but I'm married, which means I'm subject to interruptions, plus I HATE commercials, so by watching with a time delay, I fast forward through commercials and between period inanities by homer commentators.
 
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