2017 Summer Transfers and Rumors Part VII

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

The only solution would be to avoid any contact with pro football. No game watched on TV, no jersey bought, etc...
I've thought about it quite a few times. I never did because I love the sport, no matter how horrible it has become on almost all fronts (including the on-pitch product BTW, with stupid UEFA's competitions made for only 4 clubs).
This sport has degenerated to a degree of unwatchable at times. But since I'm naive enough, I keep on watching all the time in hopes of a change which will now never come.

Jussi · Jul 30, 2017

Theon said:
This is all Neymar's fault.

And thus, Barcelona's and PSG's fault.

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

Haidara to St Etienne.
Don't know how he has come back from his injury with Newcastle.
I know there are some Magpies fans here. Any comment?

Jussi · Jul 30, 2017

Evilo said:
Haidara to St Etienne.
Don't know how he has come back from his injury with Newcastle.
I know there are some Magpies fans here. Any comment?

They're probably too depressed about child labor now to comment. So thank's, Evilo!

cgf · Jul 30, 2017

Ajacied said:
Sancho was bought from Watford at the age of 15. City have barely played a part in his progression. Diaz was bought from Malaga at the age of 14.

For all the talent they reap away from clubs, about 1% actually make the squad. City alone had nine loan outs playing in the Eredivisie this past season. They just buy promising players for the 300k educational fee and sell them a few years later for a couple of millions without them even sniffing the first team. I doubt highly touted Dutchies Dilrosun, Kongolo and even AkÃƒÂ© made a very wise decision.

Edit: AkÃƒÂ© plays for Chelsea, never mind him.

...14-19 are kind of important developmental years...

Wee Baby Seamus said:
It's been a weird week on this board...

Who knew my post about the privileges white folks enjoy in america wouldn't even be the most controversial thing written on here this week.

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

cgf said:
...14-19 are kind of important developmental years...

Yeah that's weird.

Deficient Mode · Jul 30, 2017

I agree with Evilo's basic point that you can't really avoid exploitation. But I still think the Qataris are worse.

Power Man · Jul 30, 2017

Evilo said:
The only solution would be to avoid any contact with pro football. No game watched on TV, no jersey bought, etc...
I've thought about it quite a few times. I never did because I love the sport, no matter how horrible it has become on almost all fronts (including the on-pitch product BTW, with stupid UEFA's competitions made for only 4 clubs).
This sport has degenerated to a degree of unwatchable at times. But since I'm naive enough, I keep on watching all the time in hopes of a change which will now never come.

Unwatchable? It's not that bad

The NBA has become inwatchable.

Baseball has always been unwatchable (but to be fair to Baseball, it's not a sport)

I think soccer is fine

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

The CL is a joke really.

Venkman · Jul 30, 2017

United close to signing Matic for Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£40m

Peen · Jul 30, 2017

Okay evilo I've watched Baka play like twice and he wasn't impressive in the games I've watched.

But I'll ask you since you've seen him a lot

Is bakayoko currently a better player than Matic?

Is bakayoko a better fit next to Kante than Matic?

Does bakayoko have a ton of room for growth? Or is he close to a finished product?

Is Bakayoko a better fit in a 3 man midfield or 2 man midfield?

Would you have essentially swapped Matic for Bakayoko and 5m like chelsea did or have kept Matic? If given the option to spend the money on a different midfielder to pair next to kante, say up to a ~60m budget.. who would you have spent it on?

RoyIsALegend · Jul 30, 2017

Neymar spent 15 mins in the Madrid dressing room after the game yesterday.

He left with Ramos' jersey and another one signed by a few players. Definitely gone this week.

http://www.marca.com/futbol/barcelona/2017/07/30/597def5a22601dcb508b45e9.html

jacobhockey13 · Jul 30, 2017

Evilo said:
Haidara to St Etienne.
Don't know how he has come back from his injury with Newcastle.
I know there are some Magpies fans here. Any comment?

He's been injured forever so we really haven't seen much of him either. Honestly, if the injuries haven't affected him he's a decent defender; he doesn't offer much going forward up the pitch. I also hate our current starting LB so I wish we would have kept him. Haidara didn't look to out of place in the Prem and should be able to do a decent job for St Etienne.

Nalens Oga · Jul 30, 2017

Dunno why Chelsea are being cheap. Sell him for less to another club but ffs stop selling players directly to your rival.

Evilo said:
The only solution would be to avoid any contact with pro football. No game watched on TV, no jersey bought, etc...
I've thought about it quite a few times. I never did because I love the sport, no matter how horrible it has become on almost all fronts (including the on-pitch product BTW, with stupid UEFA's competitions made for only 4 clubs).
This sport has degenerated to a degree of unwatchable at times. But since I'm naive enough, I keep on watching all the time in hopes of a change which will now never come.

There's like a hundred first divisions in the world all available to watch online via streaming, if you can't pick one then it's your fault. I much prefer today's ****** looking tattoeed footballers to the days of Alan Shearer being able to score at will because the league was weak.

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

jacobhockey13 said:
He's been injured forever so we really haven't seen much of him either. Honestly, if the injuries haven't affected him he's a decent defender; he doesn't offer much going forward up the pitch. I also hate our current starting LB so I wish we would have kept him. Haidara didn't look to out of place in the Prem and should be able to do a decent job for St Etienne.

I remember him from his Nancy days. But recovering from this kind of injury can be tough.

YNWA14 · Jul 30, 2017

Yeah I don't get the complaints about the on pitch product. There's never been so many talented players across all leagues. Regardless of the system there's a lot of beautiful soccer to watch.

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

Peen said:
Okay evilo I've watched Baka play like twice and he wasn't impressive in the games I've watched.

But I'll ask you since you've seen him a lot

Is bakayoko currently a better player than Matic?

Is bakayoko a better fit next to Kante than Matic?

Does bakayoko have a ton of room for growth? Or is he close to a finished product?

Is Bakayoko a better fit in a 3 man midfield or 2 man midfield?

Would you have essentially swapped Matic for Bakayoko and 5m like chelsea did or have kept Matic? If given the option to spend the money on a different midfielder to pair next to kante, say up to a ~60m budget.. who would you have spent it on?

I think he's better than Matic in some aspects. Physically, going forward, in the air, etc...
But it took him a while to shine with Monaco. He's also coming back from injury.
In a 442 like Monaco I like him better than Matic.
In a 433 no idea.

Evilo · Jul 30, 2017

Curtinho said:
Yeah I don't get the complaints about the on pitch product. There's never been so many talented players across all leagues. Regardless of the system there's a lot of beautiful soccer to watch.

4 teams get the biggest talents. It's dreadful.

Theon · Jul 30, 2017

Can't help but feel Matic will be a great signing for us. We've missed a defensive anchor in midfield for the longest time. He'll give more chances for Pogba and Herrera to push up and play a more offensive role. Expecting a big season for Paul now.

Power Man · Jul 30, 2017

Evilo said:
The CL is a joke really.

I preferred the classic format (only the champs of each league)

I'm not 100% complaining tho, as Real wouldn't have a couple of CLs with the old format

Peen · Jul 30, 2017

Theon said:
Can't help but feel Matic will be a great signing for us. We've missed a defensive anchor in midfield for the longest time. He'll give more chances for Pogba and Herrera to push up and play a more offensive role. Expecting a big season for Paul now.

I dont like selling matic to a rival

We are now a midfielder short.. again

Edo · Jul 30, 2017

I hate Mourinho and United, but they've built a pretty deep squad.

Savant · Jul 30, 2017

Don't think Chelsea sells Matic to United if they think that he will hurt them.

bleedblue1223 · Jul 30, 2017

We've sold Mata, Cech, Matic, and others to rivals. We'd rather do right by the player than refuse to sell to a rival.

Halladay · Jul 30, 2017

Power Man said:
Unwatchable? It's not that bad

The NBA has become inwatchable.

Baseball has always been unwatchable (but to be fair to Baseball, it's not a sport)

I think soccer is fine

Just another gem post by you, like always.

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