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2017 NHL Redraft?

Bertuzzzi44

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With an explosive start from Pettersson and a solid start from Heiskanen, was curious if the 2017 NHL Draft was held today how would your top 15 play out?
  1. E. Pettersson (+4)
  2. N. Hischier (-1)
  3. M. Heiskanen (0)
  4. N. Patrick (-2)
  5. C. Mittelstadt (+3)
  6. C. Makar (-2)
  7. M. Necas (+5)
  8. C. Glass (-2)
  9. H. Jokiharju (+20)
  10. E. Tolvanen (+20)
  11. F. Chytil
  12. L. Andersson
  13. R. Thomas
  14. J. Valimaki
  15. G. Vilardi
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Critical13

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1. Heiskanen
2. Pettersson
3. Hichier
4. Makar
5. Mittelstadt
6. Jokiharju
7. Necas
8. Tolvanen
9. Glass
10. Patrick
11. Thomas
12. Chytil
13. Valimaki
14. Brannstrom
15. Liljegren
16. Frost
17. Suzuki
18. Poehling
19. Vaakainien
20. Hague

Andersson, Camtois, Aho, Batherson, Formenton might all push into that top group too.
 
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Bertuzzzi44 said:
With an explosive start from Pettersson, good starts from Heiskanen and Mittelstadt, was curious if the 2017 NHL Draft was held today how would your top 15 play out?
  1. E. Pettersson (+4)
  2. N. Hischier (-1)
  3. M. Heiskanen (0)
  4. N. Patrick (-2)
  5. C. Mittelstadt (+3)
  6. C. Makar (-2)
  7. M. Necas (+5)
  8. C. Glass (-2)
  9. H. Jokiharju (+20)
  10. E. Tolvanen (+20)
  11. L. Andersson
  12. F. Chytil
  13. R. Thomas
  14. J. Valimaki
  15. G. Vilardi
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I agree with your list for the most part except I'd have Chytil above Andersson and Tolvanen much lower. At this point his draft position has certainly gone up, but not a ton to the point where he is a top 10 pick yet imo. I'd probably have Comtois in his place but a little lower on the list
 
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Both Pettersson and Heiskanen look like they could very well be franchise players. My 1st and 2nd for now.
 
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1. Heiskanen
2. Pettersson
3. Hichier
4. Makar
5. Mittelstadt
6. Jokiharju
7. Necas
8. Tolvanen
9. Glass
10. Patrick
11. Thomas
12. Chytil
13. Valimaki
14. Brannstrom
15. Liljegren
16. Frost
17. Suzuki
18. Poehling
19. Vaakainien
20. Hague
 

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1) Pettersson
2) Heiskanen
3) Hischier
4) Patrick
5) Mittlestadt
6) Makar
7) Tolvanen
8) Jokiharju
9) Necas
10) Glass
 
Mortimer Snerd

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Critical91 said:
1. Heiskanen
2. Pettersson
3. Hichier
4. Makar
5. Mittelstadt
6. Jokiharju
7. Necas
8. Tolvanen
9. Glass
10. Patrick
11. Thomas
12. Chytil
13. Valimaki
14. Brannstrom
15. Liljegren
16. Frost
17. Suzuki
18. Poehling
19. Vaakainien
20. Hague

Andersson, Camtois, Aho, Batherson, Formenton might all push into that top group too.
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Tolvanen? He was drafted behind Vesalainen. He is still behind Vesalainen. And Vesalainen isn't in the top 10. Cody Glass is still in the WHL - absolutely killing it. He hasn't moved down. Mittelstadt hasn't moved up. In fact maybe down a little.
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
Tolvanen? He was drafted behind Vesalainen. He is still behind Vesalainen. And Vesalainen isn't in the top 10. Cody Glass is still in the WHL - absolutely killing it. He hasn't moved down. Mittelstadt hasn't moved up. In fact maybe down a little.
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Mine is just another under informed opinion based one the little I see, but more so on the tweets or posts in the prospect forum. I would take Tolvanen over Vesalainen, Cody Glass I've seen quite a bit of and I just like some of the other players more. I have no idea why but I've always underrated him despite being everything I love in a player. I am very high on Mittelstadt, love that pure skill game and vision, he just needs some time.

What's your list? It's easy to moan and groan over someone elses, let's see what yours would look like.

Bertuzzzi44 said:
Was contemplating placing Heiskanen 2OA but Hischier is a darn good player, pretty much a toss up.
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EP is a better fit at 2, Heisk at 1 :)
 
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Critical91 said:
Mine is just another under informed opinion based one the little I see, but more so on the tweets or posts in the prospect forum. I would take Tolvanen over Vesalainen, Cody Glass I've seen quite a bit of and I just like some of the other players more. I have no idea why but I've always underrated him despite being everything I love in a player. I am very high on Mittelstadt, love that pure skill game and vision, he just needs some time.

What's your list? It's easy to moan and groan over someone elses, let's see what yours would look like.



EP is a better fit at 2, Heisk at 1 :)
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It was the Tolvanen one that caught my eye. Everybody got hot for him after his start in the KHL last year. But he faded. Meanwhile Vesalainen kept getting better as the season went on. Now both are in the AHL and, in a small sample, Vesalainen is outproducing him. I can't see Tolvanen leaping over Vesalainen. Both should move up though.

A lot of it is hard to do, so many players close to one another. Besides the things I mentioned, I'd have Petterson #1, Heiskanen #2. For a redraft coming this soon it shouldn't matter that you are very high on a Mittelstadt, for example, it should be based on what they are doing so far. At least that is how I see a redraft.
 
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EP
Heiskanen
Hischier
Makar
Glass
Chytil
Mittelstadt
Necas
Jokiharju
Patrick
Vilardi
Brannstrom
Rasmussen
Frost
Valimaki

Is my top 15
 
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Surprised at how many people are leaving out Rasmussen. He hasn't done anything to lose any stock. I'd take him over Vilardi, Valimaki, Poehling, Hague, and others that have been making these lists.
 
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NickH8 said:
Surprised at how many people are leaving out Rasmussen. He hasn't done anything to lose any stock. I'd take him over Vilardi, Valimaki, Poehling, Hague, and others that have been making these lists.
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Tho he hasnt regressed there are also a lotta risers from the 2017 draft. Not a bad pick at 9 but lots a risers like Jokiharajuu Chytil Necas
 

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I remember back in like 2014 when Jets fans were gloating about Trouba being a future Norris winner and Blues fans claiming Parayko was going to be the next Shea Weber a couple years later. Ekblad is another. Theres a billion more examples. Point is so many players come into the league read hot and everyone gets horny over them. Then they don't progress as far as fans want. The fact that Nolan Patrick is falling on these lists is such a joke. Hes going to be so much better than everyone from this draft save Pettersen and maybe Hishier. Cant believe people have him below guys like Makar, Mittlestadt, Necas etc. Im not even a Flyers fan. :laugh:
 
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Critical91 said:
1. Heiskanen
2. Pettersson
3. Hichier
4. Makar
5. Mittelstadt
6. Jokiharju
7. Necas
8. Tolvanen
9. Glass
10. Patrick
11. Thomas
12. Chytil
13. Valimaki
14. Brannstrom
15. Liljegren
16. Frost
17. Suzuki
18. Poehling
19. Vaakainien
20. Hague

Andersson, Camtois, Aho, Batherson, Formenton might all push into that top group too.
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Goldenpeach said:
1. Heiskanen
2. Pettersson
3. Hichier
4. Makar
5. Mittelstadt
6. Jokiharju
7. Necas
8. Tolvanen
9. Glass
10. Patrick
11. Thomas
12. Chytil
13. Valimaki
14. Brannstrom
15. Liljegren
16. Frost
17. Suzuki
18. Poehling
19. Vaakainien
20. Hague
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Lays said:
EP
Heiskanen
Hischier
Makar
Glass
Chytil
Mittelstadt
Necas
Jokiharju
Patrick
Vilardi
Brannstrom
Rasmussen
Frost
Valimaki

Is my top 15
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Patrick is scoring at a 50 point pace in the NHL, while so many guys listed above him haven't even played 20 games smh. I guess dominating leagues you're too good for means more. Cale Makar and Casey Mittlstadt above Patrick? :laugh::laugh:. Maybe they have higher potential but theres also a massive chance they don't pan out. I mean like how the hell do you have Mittlestadt above him when Patrick has clearly been better this year?
 
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Tripod said:
It's funny how Patrick has dropped down so far on so many lists yet is on a 49 point pace.

I guess he would be higher if he was playinging in Jr, college, or AHL.
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He is playing well, but he also can't seem to go a season without missing significant time. The guy has a big injury history and a lot of people will factor that in.
 
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