2017 Football Thread III: End of an Eli

[nyr2k2]

Jets filled their C need with Spencer Long.

 

[GregSirico]

Gotta assume that Flowers moves to RT now. I'l go out on a limb and say he'll actually flourish there.

The interior line is still a mess, though.

You really think he can find some success on the right side? WHY?

 

[Fvital92]

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Gotta assume that Flowers moves to RT now. I'l go out on a limb and say he'll actually flourish there.

The interior line is still a mess, though.

I like Brett Jones, he was good, and certaintly better than Richburg, last year. DJ Fluker is passable as a Guard, if we draft another one we have a decent line next year.

Edit: Actually, no. I don't buy Flowers as a RT.

 

[JimmyG89]

You really think he can find some success on the right side? WHY?

At least the QB will be able to see the pass rush coming at him instead of his blind side?

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Jets with some very nice moves

Signing Solder is big for the Giants, they pretty much HAD to sign a tackle.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

This Solder Deal is HILARIOUS. What a garbage contract. The most mediocre player in the league as the highest paid LT.

Panic move. Pure panic move.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Only if they believe that one of these guys is a franchise QB. Otherwise, you take Barkley, if he's there.

If we spend this pick on a OG, I'm gonna be furious.

Yea I can understand this point of view too. I am pro-QB at 2, but if they don't see anyone as an elite guy I'd be ok with either Saquon or a trade down.

But I am really hoping they land the next guy at 2.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Also Pugh is gone now I assume?

 

[YoSoyLalo]

This Solder Deal is HILARIOUS. What a garbage contract. The most mediocre player in the league as the highest paid LT.

Panic move. Pure panic move.

Look at what Eric fisher is making

We can swap if you'd like

 

[2Leetch_94]

Here's hoping for week 9-SB Nate Solder. Was made pretty clear come hell or high water the Giants were going to address the offensive line with free agency.

 

[2Leetch_94]

Not sure how Giants would find the money to bring the Honeybadger in but would make a great pairing with Collins.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Also Pugh is gone now I assume?

Barstool Justin is gone.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Look at what Eric fisher is making

We can swap if you'd like

I just want sane contracts.

 

[Fvital92]

I just want sane contracts.

You can't find those in free agency.

 

[bernmeister]

I'm not sold on Bridgewatter, even as stop gap.
Although I would love to go with a build piece, I think Jets have to consider QB.
I think it was Bill Pollan on M Kay yester day and he say all 4 of the top QBs prospects have issues. I think he was saying to effect Allen is the best one for Jets.
That's okay. And we can re-up 1 yr the guy from last yr to start again, cheap enuf. even if he is possible injury risk pushing towards 40.
But we need to get like Paxton Lynch, who we should have taken the first time, and lose Hackenberg.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

You can't find those in free agency.

Sure you can.

You can't find them when you're desperate in free agency, though. Panic moves end up with insane contracts.

 

[Fvital92]

Not sure how Giants would find the money to bring the Honeybadger in but would make a great pairing with Collins.

Cutting Marshall would help.

 

[sbjnyc]

I thought the Browns were the premier destination for Cousins. Or something.

Who said that? But I distinctly remember you saying something about how much endorsement money he'd get playing in NY.

 

[sbjnyc]

I love what the Jets did today. Two veteran QBs, one who still could hold a ton of upside, allowing them to take a QB in the draft if one is there that they like BUT not otherwise feel like they MUST take one.

Signing Trumaine Johnson is huge, especially if they can land another starting-caliber CB. Johnson, FA/draft, Skrine, plus the two young safeties is the makings for a very good secondary.

And then Crowell is a great signing. I've always liked him. Versatile, durable. Draft another and they're in pretty decent shape there.

Bridgewater has not completed a pass since 2015. Trumaine Johnson is the #68 CB per PFF. I don't see him being worth $15 million but it's 1 year and Jets have to pay someone to be cap compliant so whatever. Will McCown follow in Fitz's footsteps in his 2nd year or prove 2017 wasn't a fluke?

 

[East Coast Bias]

Bridgewater has not completed a pass since 2015. Trumaine Johnson is the #68 CB per PFF. I don't see him being worth $15 million but it's 1 year and Jets have to pay someone to be cap compliant so whatever. Will McCown follow in Fitz's footsteps in his 2nd year or prove 2017 wasn't a fluke?

Neither has a Browns QB

 

[sbjnyc]

Neither has a Browns QB

Fake news.

 

[nyr2k2]

Bridgewater has not completed a pass since 2015. Trumaine Johnson is the #68 CB per PFF. I don't see him being worth $15 million but it's 1 year and Jets have to pay someone to be cap compliant so whatever. Will McCown follow in Fitz's footsteps in his 2nd year or prove 2017 wasn't a fluke?

PFF also has Johnson allowing 1 TD in 932 snaps last year. The opposing passer rating against him was under 80. Is that really the 68th best CB in the league? If so, there are a f***ing load of really good CBs in the league. PFF isn't the gospel truth and I've always found their "overall" rankings kind of strange. JMO, though. Yeah Johnson is overpaid by a few million but he limits big plays, he doesn't give up touchdowns, and he's a perfect fit in the Jets' scheme. It's also a multi-year deal, not just one year.

With McCown and Bridgewater you get two character guys who can mentor the young QB you hopefully draft. And then you've got two veteran guys to play out the season while that guy grows. Maybe Bridgewater picks up where he left off a couple years ago. He was a pocket passer anyway. Maybe he can be Vinny Testaverde, who had no knees. Anyway, signing the two is giving yourself two potential options and hedging your bets.

Plus, like I said. Crowell was solid. Williamson is a good move. Long was a decent signing with upside. I like the moves. I expect a few more and then I'm hoping for a good draft. Get the Jets back into position where instead of crumbling in the fourth they're winning those games and making the playoffs.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Who said that? But I distinctly remember you saying something about how much endorsement money he'd get playing in NY.

You basically said the Browns would buy him over everyone. The Jets are a worse team than the Vikings and the Browns significantly worse than both. The idea that the Browns were ever a contender him died very early on.

He IS passing on money. He’s trying to win. Which is why he surely wouldn’t go to Cleveland.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Cutting Marshall would help.

Can’t. He has to pass a physical first.

 

[romba]

And in all honesty, I am fine trading him if we can get 90 cents on the dollar. I'm not fine trading a generational talent for less than that. I'd normally want 1.10 on the dollar or more.

At the current time, what would you say is 90 cents on the dollar for OBJ?