Prospect Info: 2017-18 Stockton Heat & Prospect Stats/Discussion (CHL, NCAA, Europe, AHL, ECHL)

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  1. Petr Cejka

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    Adam Fox 2+2 today..Impressive
     
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    Big fluff piece about Fox on the Flames website today. It's happening.
     
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    Has anyone followed Välimäki's WHL season closely? I checked some stats and he seems to be doing quite well in P/GP and GF%, but there is not much talk about him.
     
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    Mangiapane out for the season with a shoulder injury according to stocktons Twitter account
     
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    Good question.

    I noticed some negativity towards this pick around the board, looks like some rather would have picked somebody else, despite his stats.
     
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    I'm here every day and I've never noticed negativity towards the Valimaki pick. I think he's established himself unquestionably as our top prospect if he wasn't already there before the season started, and I think most people here would agree with me.
     
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    At 5v5, he is 1st in G/GP, 3rd in P1/GP and 2nd in P/GP, and seems to be facing quite heavy competition (GF% of his opponents is 5th best while his linemates' GF% is 105th). His point/60 stats are also top-5, although the ice time tracking might not be accurate. His GF% is 54.55%, which is good for 33rd, which I think is respectable playing for a lower middle-tier team. All in all, his stats suggest he is doing very well. I wish I could watch his games so I could see how the stats reflect his game.
     
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    I've only seen snippets and one full game so take it with a big grain of salt but from what I've seen he's been great. He takes a tonne of shots and is putting up decent scoring stats (I think his puckluck has been poor) on a team that IMO isn't very good. Since moving to Tri City Jake Bean who's been a 1 point/game D man for the last three years has 17 points in 28 games. I definitely want Valimaki to get more points but given his situation I don't think he's in a good position to get them vs the D men on true contenders (Foote on Kelowna and Jokiharju on Portland).

    His body type reminds me of a smaller Tarasenko he's a wall sometimes. Against the Hitmen while PKing he went into the corner with the puck and all 5 Hitmen closed in on him. He came out of the corner with the puck.
     
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    I believe there was some negativity towards us picking a defenseman when our forward prospect pool is so shallow. There were also a few that even liked other defenseman better.
     
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    I do remember people wanting Liljegren over Valimaki. Liljegren's had a good rookie year in the AHL but I still think Valimaki's the better prospect.
     
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    We already had Kylington. We didn't need another project in Liljegren
     
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    Yeah Valimaki is a beast. I don’t care what his stats say. He’s just really good at hockey.Reminds me of Giordano. Still would have preferred Tolvanen (those were my two guys when we picked). Oh well.
     
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    I wanted one of Thomas, Vesalainen or Yamamoto, not because I didn't like Valimaki, just really thought we were going to go for a forward.
     
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    Well the main player I wanted was Necas, after Necas it was Valimaki on my list. Thankfully we got Valimaki, was jumping with glee. Again our defenseman depth is strong because of RHD and in Brodie's case a strong player on the right side. Our LHD was lacking as Kylington was our best prospect and he's not guaranteed to ever be a long term NHLer.
     
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    I posted this top 10 prospect list on the prospects board for us, I know everyone will have some movement on their lists -

    1. Valimaki
    2. Andersson
    3. Parsons
    4. Fox
    5. Dube
    6. Gillies
    7. Kylington
    8. Mangiapane
    9. Foo
    10. Lindstrom

    HM - Ruzicka (I know most will have him ahead of Lindstrom but he's a bit too much of a floater for me at this point. Have to play with pace in today's NHL. I think Lindstrom is a dark horse to be a #3-4 center in the NHL)
     
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    1. Valimaki
    2. Andersson
    3. Fox
    4. Dube
    5. Parsons
    6. Mangiapane
    7. Kylington
    8. Gillies
    9. Rittich
    10. Gawdin

    HM: Foo, Joly, Ruzicka, Tuulola
     
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    1. Valimaki
    2. Andersson
    3. Dube
    4. Mangiapane
    5. Fox
    6. Parsons (still have hope, but no denying this year has not been what we were expecting)
    7. Gilles
    8. Kylington
    9. Foo (come on really strong after a very very slow start)

    After that some combination of Gawdin, Phillips, Joly in the 10, 11, 12 spots.

    Graduated: Janks, Hathaway (not that he would have been top 10), Rittich

    HM: I still believe Klimchuk will play a bottom six role on the Flames someday.
     
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    1. Kylington
    2. The rest
     
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    1)Valamaki
    2)Andersson
    3)Dube
    4)Fox

    Rest dont matter, we would be lucky if one ever makes it.
     
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    1. Andersson
    2. Valimaki
    3. Fox
    4. Rittich
    5. Mangiapane
    6. Dube
    7. Kylington
    8. Gillies
    9. Foo
    10. Parsons
     
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    1. Andersson
    2. Valimaki/Fox
    3 Valimaki/Fox
    4. Dube
    5. Mangiapane
    6. Parsons
    7. Kylington
    8. Phillips
    9. Gillies
    10.Foo
    11. Svenigsson (Really like what I've heard he's my wildcard to breakout in a few years.)
    12. Joly
    13. Ruzicka
    14. Gawdin
    15. Klimchuk

    The last 5 guys are fairly interchangeable but I felt they should be included. Lindstrom is also right there but it's kind of hard to get excited about a prospect that never scores. I'm only really sure about my top 8. Forgot a bou4 Tuulola as well.
     
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    1) Kylington
    2) Parsons
    3) Fox
    4) Valimaki
    5) Andersson
    6)Mangiapane
    7) Phillips
    8) Dube
    9) Tuulola
    10) Joly
    11) Sveningsson
    12) Foo
    13) Lindstrom
    14) Klimchuk
    15) Ruzicka
     
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    Dube vs Valimaki round one so one of them should finish the year in Stockton. My guess in Kelowna beats Tri City in 6.
     
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    Boomer and the crew were talking about Adam Fox the other day and how the Flames need to sign him because he's too good to stay in college.

    Well, it seems like he isn't getting signed. Told Flames he'll stay in college for next season
     

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