2016 Draft: 2nd Pick: Tyler Benson (UPD: Invited to Summer WJC Camp)

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  1. nabob

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    You're acting like a know it all expert on junior aged hockey players and injuries, yet don't understand why Benson isn't playing three games in three nights after coming back from injury.
     
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    Toronto should have never drafted Morgan Reilly. ..but in hindsight he was the best pick in the top 5. Think about that for a second, try to not hurt yourself while doing so.
     
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    You're acting like you didn't just get called out for not reading posts when you accused someone of doing the same thing. Hopefully it's a warm day wherever you are so that egg on your face at least cooks a bit.

    McDavid, Draft Year: Broke hand after a fight. Only major injury of the year.

    Rielly, Draft Year: Tore ACL. Only major injury of the year.

    Galchenyuk, Draft Year: A free one for you both since I bet one of you is drooling to mention it. Collided with a goal post, hurt knee, missed entire year.

    Benson, Draft Year: Back surgery prior to the start of the season; missed one month. Groin injury in December. Didn't play again until February; appeared in two games, re-aggravated injury, missed rest of year.

    Now, unlike a certain person here, I don't like having to accuse people of not reading. So both of you, read that for me. Then I want you to answer the following: what, if anything, is different about Benson's situation versus the other three?

    Okay, you did that? You started your reply- and ensured, per nabob's requirements, that it was coherent?

    Good.

    Now...

    McDavid, Draft Year - 1: Missed 8 games to play in WJC; otherwise, played all available games.

    Rielly, Draft Year - 1: HS 1 game, missed 5 games to play in the U17s.

    Galchenyuk, Draft Year -1: "I had never been really injured before. The year before, in the OHL, I played every game and didn't miss a single practice. It was a whole new experience for me". Hmm. So we have a theme here. Will that continue?

    Benson, Draft Year - 1: Missed ten games- nine in a stretch from Oct 25 to Nov 21 due to a back injury. Was later injured during the U17s and missed not only part of the tournament but his first game back due to an "unspecified injury".

    Okay, so everyone got that? No major time missed the year before the draft by McDavid, Rielly and Galchenyuk. More injuries to Benson.

    With that information in mind, I eagerly await some coherent, well-thought-out responses.
     
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    Benson's injuries are not chronic and he'll have a good NHL career. I don't regret that selection.
     
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    A muscular injury recurring and a fracture not recurring, go figure. Its almost like bone healing is considerably more reliable and efficient than muscular healing, and muscle injuries are tricky and often rushed back in sport. Mind you I haven't looked into Benson's injury history reports in great detail so I'll have to take your word for it that those are reliable reports, but the ones cited in his pre-draft are hardly cause for concern. Without more context on what surgeries he had done you really haven't proven anything to me. Yes groin strains can often recur if they aren't rehabbed properly or given an appropriate healing timeline, and sports hernia's can often have the same fate. I definitely won't argue that. However, I would hope given the recurrence of these issues that they took the appropriate amount of time this time around to ensure he's fully healed. By the sounds of it they have as he was not rushed back for the start of the season and has been recovering for over 6 months.

    The groin issue appears to be in the past, and the hernia issue should be as well after the surgery. I suppose you can claim his pre-draft injuries as huge red flags, but to anyone with any rehabilitation background they really shouldn't be because they are fixable issues. Of course its impossible to know what even caused those issues in the first place without a great deal more of information. Does he have some kind of structural issue that predisposes him to the injuries he's had? Does he have movement issues or insufficiencies that predispose him? Is he simply unlucky, or had a specific traumatic event that caused the injuries?

    The Oilers would have done testing of this sort on him. The injuries he has sustained, however, do not appear linked and are injuries that are correctable with proper rehabilitation.
     
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    Benson missed 10 games in his draft -1 season. Really who gives a flying **** about 10 games in a players draft -1 season. It's a physical game. Injuries happen. Judging whether to not draft a player based on him missing 10 games in the season before his draft season is about one of the dumbest things you've written here. The list is long but that's definitely near the top.
     
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    less then 4 hours and nuked
     
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    It's so annoying.

    They put out this video two days ago. Go to 3:45 for why my videos/accounts are having issues.

     
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    Lmao, what in the **** is wrong with them, have you had any contact with a youtube staff member?

    Do they understand that all your videos are on a different player each time?

    Bunch of ******s running the show there.
     
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    Wait they consider your content ****ing spam?
     
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    the travel channel I am associated with had 4 vids taken down this week
     
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    I don't get to talk to anyone, nor do I get specific reasons. It's all automated, based on algorithms, even the appeal process.

    I have no understand of why, specifically, my videos are being taken down.


    Yeah. One would think I'd encounter copyright issues, but I don't monetize and Ive never had a copyright strike. If someone wants to copyright claim my videos (which does happen with any NHL content) they are free to do so.

    I can't fathom why it gets sorted as spam...


    I've been talking to other people with YouTube accounts similar to myn, and accounts not similar, many people are having issues.

    It sucks. People put effort into building these accounts up and out of the blue they can be wiped.
     
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    Might be worth trying this? Just heard about it.
     
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    Unbelievable... I hope you find another platform, or YouTube fixes their ****, because your videos are fantastic, keep up the great work.
     
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    I know with the travel channel--the problem we are having in other channels view it as a threat and report every single video-the creators have created up to 30 email accounts and when they send reports from all 30--the video gets taken down. Also--youtube will take down a video of a few different law firm file copy write infringements or spamming claims--these lawyers work for another vlogger and are paid by that vlogger to try and crush competition

    have you thought of using Vimeo or daily motion? if you are not looking to make money off the channel those are options
     
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    ninja edit

    post goes down a path of youtube vs other video sites that is better served in the geek forum
     
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    Finally got some good news on the YouTube front:

    Benson video is back up:

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    So now I'm wondering why the **** my original account got killed.
     
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    this the new channel? I need to re sub.
     
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    Every time this topic gets bumped, I worry about what Benson broke.

    Glad it's only a video of highlights. :|
     
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    Benson is going to have almost no nhl career. The guy is not good enough. He'll be a career minor leaguer. I have no problem saying that.
     
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    Benson was ultra talented, probably top 15 in his age group at the time of the draft, Bobby Mac also said he was a top 15 pick if it wasn’t for injuries. He had his development derailed by 2 pretty freak injuries, wouldn’t shock me the slightest to see him start to put some solid seasons together after staying healthy last year for once.
     
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    Unfortunately many top 15 picks don't end up with nhl careers.

    Got to think Benson is not tracking well. However, IF, he can stay healthy and restart/rejuvenate his development next year in the Ahl its still extremely early in his development.
     
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    for sure, it's easy to assume all first rounders will be impact players, but history says otherwise, even for top 10 picks. So right now, Benson is just one of many sticks in the fire. We don't know which ones will bust, or which ones will elevate. For all we know, Yamamoto will be a huge bust and Benson will be a top liner. But right now the odds are pointing the other way, but it's just odds.
     
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