Speculation: 2016 Coyotes Off-Season Roster Discussion - Part 5

[Heldig]

I really hope Strome makes the Coyotes this season bedcause:

1) that means he has earned it and is on his way to being a top 6 C

2) by staying up he gets to work daily with our skating coach

3) sending him down will be demoralizing for Strome

4) sending him down will mean insufferable posts from TML fans (more so than usual)

 

[HerrDonut]

I was spelling Rieder incorrectly. Woo, learning...

 

[Bonsai Tree]

So that would make:


Domi, Hanzal, Vrbata
Strome, Dvorak, Duclair
Martinook, Richardson, Doan
Crouse, Dauphin, Rieder
White, McGinn

If you play Rieder as a RW it will be on the 4th line. Not sure they're gonna do it but ok
Vrbata is useless on a 4th line, Duclair isn't gonna play on a 4th line and I also doubt they're gonna play Doan there.

Your 3rd and 4th lines look interchangeable so 4th ling might see more minutes than before using this lineup.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I was spelling Rieder incorrectly. Woo, learning...

You'd think a guy with 'Herr' in his name... ... German's generally a little bit easier than English with the 'ei' vs 'ie' thing. 'ie' is almost always our long 'e' (reed, beekeeper); 'ei' is almost always our long 'i' (high, sky, fly)

 

[Bonsai Tree]

You'd think a guy with 'Herr' in his name... ... German's generally a little bit easier than English with the 'ei' vs 'ie' thing. 'ie' is almost always our long 'e' (reed, beekeeper); 'ei' is almost always our long 'i' (high, sky, fly)

Really quite the German sentence structure bewildering cobbed on at the end verbs is.

 

[Hinterland]

Your 3rd and 4th lines look interchangeable so 4th ling might see more minutes than before using this lineup.

You still have to split 60mins between players like Vrbata, Duclair, Rieder and Doan. Ok, you can balance a bit with the special teams but still. You don't play those 4 on the same side. I wouldn't mind it but I don't think it's gonna happen...

 

[HerrDonut]

I imagine Doan being flexibile enough to share his minutes (speaking of his personality and leadership). I like this point Hinterland brings up though, could be interesting to watch play out.

You'd think a guy with 'Herr' in his name... ... German's generally a little bit easier than English with the 'ei' vs 'ie' thing. 'ie' is almost always our long 'e' (reed, beekeeper); 'ei' is almost always our long 'i' (high, sky, fly)

If I was taught such a concise way of remembering it in my semester of high school German, I've long since forgotten. And I'm generally not so in touch with my heritage. In fact, my first name here was AndrewDonut, but I signed up around the same time as AndrewYotes and someone said one of us should change... yeah.

 

[SR]

You can keep Strome at LW if you send Crouse back, move McGinn or Rieder to RW, and scratch White.

What has Strome done to play himself into the opening night roster? I am curious to hear your thoughts.

Crouse, Dvorak, and to a lesser extant, Samuelson and Dauphin showed more in camp and the preseason games than Strome did.

I don't think Strome stays. Chychrun will get 9 and sent while DeAngelo draws in as the 7th man.

 

[BAdvocate]

This roster line up for today also tell me that Strome is going back soon.

Just my opinion but I'm of the mindset that Strome isn't making this team.

Edit: beyond the nine games.

Because they have him at wing? On the second line?

Well, I don't know. He'll certainly get a chance. But yeah. Dvorak has outplayed him and Tippetts seem to prefer Dvorak as of now.

Dvorak preseason FO% - 56.5
Strome preseason FO% - 39.8

 

[Jakey53]

Dvorak preseason FO% - 56.5
Strome preseason FO% - 39.8

Yeah, what the hell is up with Strome FO%? Last year in preseason that was one of his strong points. Is he putting pressure on himself?

 

[OriginalJetsCoyotes]

You can keep Strome at LW if you send Crouse back.

If he isn't going to play center, send him back.

 

[SniperHF]

Hanzal likely ain't gonna be here in 5 months, short term problem.

 

[Hinterland]

Hanzal likely ain't gonna be here in 5 months, short term problem.

I hope he is. If not we lose one of our most important players. I'd keep him regardless of how Strome and Dvorak do. Pay that man. He's a faceoff monster, solid two way center who also knows a little bit about possession hockey. Last but not least he's a physical force. Hanzal is important for a team that has many small forwards on its roster.
Dvorak and Strome may have better hands and moves but they're never gonna replace Hanzal. Team was really shabby without him.
I hope they're gonna pay him and be it only to center our 3rd line. There are not too many centers who can do what he does...

 

[XX]

Hanzal is made of glass and is only getting older. His ask will likely be higher than what Chayka is willing to do.

 

[Grvmnd]

What has Strome done to play himself into the opening night roster? I am curious to hear your thoughts.

Crouse, Dvorak, and to a lesser extant, Samuelson and Dauphin showed more in camp and the preseason games than Strome did.

I don't think Strome stays. Chychrun will get 9 and sent while DeAngelo draws in as the 7th man.

Most games played but nobody on the team had more points than strome. He's a + player on a team that was 5-1-2. What else would he have had to do to get a shot? Point per game?

I'm not ready to bronze a statue of him in my back yard but I think he earned a spot.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Yeah, what the hell is up with Strome FO%? Last year in preseason that was one of his strong points. Is he putting pressure on himself?

He Perlini'd

 

[AZviaNJ]

Hanzal is made of glass and is only getting older. His ask will likely be higher than what Chayka is willing to do.

If GMJC wanted to keep Hanzal, he'd already be signed.

 

[SR]

Most games played but nobody on the team had more points than strome. He's a + player on a team that was 5-1-2. What else would he have had to do to get a shot? Point per game?

I'm not ready to bronze a statue of him in my back yard but I think he earned a spot.

Dvorak did the same, minus a game. Strome was also taken 3 over all, a lot more hype than a 2nd rnd'r should most def produce like that and more.

Maybe my potential for Strome is a tad higher. To me he didn't stand out like a 3 over all pick.

 

[Mosby]

Strome did a helluva lot more than Crouse in the preseason.

 

[SniperHF]

What has Strome done to play himself into the opening night roster? I am curious to hear your thoughts.

Did he play himself out of one? That's a better question IMO. Despite management saying they don't hold spots, they pretty clearly do. The answer is no he didn't play himself off the team even though I didn't think he had the greatest preseason. On the center depth chart who is better than Strome? Even if one thinks Dauphin is better at the moment there are enough spots for both of them for now.

 

[rt]

What has Strome done to play himself into the opening night roster? I am curious to hear your thoughts.

Crouse, Dvorak, and to a lesser extant, Samuelson and Dauphin showed more in camp and the preseason games than Strome did.

I don't think Strome stays. Chychrun will get 9 and sent while DeAngelo draws in as the 7th man.

I'll do my best.

Strome's been extraordinarily successful at every level to an elite extent.

...and he probably put up more points than those guys in some practice games.

Outside of OEL, he's the most important player in the entire organization. You don't jeopardize that because some two bit prospect got hot in camp. There's a thing called a body of work, and it should count for something.

Crouse has the potential to be a fine middle sixer. And he's more likely to realize that potential if he spends a year in the OHL learning what being an elite player in a league feels like. Dauphin has the potential to be a fine bottom sixer. And he has a better a better chance of reaching that potential if he spends another year in the AHL, learning what it feels like to be a valuable and productive professional hockey player. Dylan Strome has the potential to be an NHL All Star. He's more likely to reach that potential by spending this season in the NHL than he is going back to a league where he will put up 3pts per game.

 

[rt]

Hanzal likely ain't gonna be here in 5 months, short term problem.

Seeing his age in the other thread bummed me the hell out. 29. Just out there like that. I think of him as a 26 year old. He's not. He's 29. Can anyone realistically see him as an extremely valuable 34 year old? Yikes. That happened quick. It's depressing.

 

[rt]

Yeah, what the hell is up with Strome FO%? Last year in preseason that was one of his strong points. Is he putting pressure on himself?

Wasn't he over 60% in camp last year? He's been utterly dominant on the dot in junior.

 

[SniperHF]

Seeing his age in the other thread bummed me the hell out. 29. Just out there like that. I think of him as a 26 year old. He's not. He's 29. Can anyone realistically see him as an extremely valuable 34 year old? Yikes. That happened quick. It's depressing.

The one thing I've said before about Hanzal's aging is: he keeps getting injured and in some cases surgically repaired. And most of the time he's actually been a better player afterward

The 6 million dollar Hanzal, though hopefully not literally

The bigger problem is some team is gonna throw him a ton of money for a couple years on a run fully understanding that he'll break down later. They won't care.

 

[Grvmnd]

Plus the last thing we need is another 3rd overall feeling scorned about not being given a chance.