If that was the case how come so many teams want them.
I'm assuming a lot of the scouts are here to see if Lazar is worth picking up or trading for (when the price comes down).
He looks like he's done here but maybe he turns it around somewhere else. It's a low-risk gamble if you can get him and turn him into a serviceable NHL player. Lazar is done here. There's no turning it around here.
Montreal is my bet.
It's not as much as wanting more from hoffman as it is his role on this team. IF we get Duchene, and Hoffman doesn't provide more than he does now, then we can look at trading him for someone else who provides diff elements since Duchene is similar to Hoffman but provides more pros to this team.
lol people need to stop comparing mistakes of players to others without analyzing the good. Yes, Karlsson makes some brutal mistakes sometimes... but he's also the best offensive defender in the NHL, top 3 takeaway artists, shot block specialist, best transition and breakout player, best puck possession player etc...
What does Hoffman have aside from speed and goalscoring?
Before comparing player mistakes, look at the pros vs cons. If Hoffman was excellent defensively and was excellent puck possession player than i dont give a **** if he plays casually sometimes and even costs us some goals.
lol no stop, that's not what we're doing. What's funny is whenever someone brings up a criticism, some people (not saying you) make blatant remarks like those criticisms are unwarranted. And yet some of those posters, and everyone else in general, are confused why we miss the playoffs or dont go for or ask "whats wrong with this team?"
Sens are brutal as a team in puck possession, hoffman being among the best doesnt mean much. i may have higher expectations for him but it's cause i want him to be more than a Ryder. He has shown spurts of excellent ability and has improved his game much more but there's still a reason why he plays on that Pageau line and isn't a mainstay in the top 6 like a Stone or Turris is.
Is this guy credible?
He plays on the Pageau line because he is one of the few players on our roster that can create offense himself. It's no different than when we played Stone with Smith and Pageau.Us being a meh possession team has nothing to do with Hoffman. I'm not saying he doesn't have weaknesses but these are severely overrated by the fanbase.
Hoffman is a better overall defensive player than most of our bottom six.
Yup very
actually maybe not. but he is reliable
Lazar is worth a 1st round pick... A lot of GMs are trying to fleece me.
hmmmm....
Lazar isn't really worth anything. He's a reclamation project that can't be fixed here.
Our best hope is we can somehow convince another team of his value as a 'prospect' and get them to take him in a package we offer up but even that's doubtful.
Remember that this is the same organization that tremendously overvalued Cowen, and is currently making the same mistake with two other young players.
How is that relevant. What's the argument. He's not perfect. He's a goal scorer on a pretty good contract to do so. But his defensive issues are overblown. That I know.
If he was great defensively theeeen he would be an elite hockey player. 30 goals, defensive dynamo. How many of those are there?.
I didn't say anything about him defensively. He's quite good when he wants to be. most of the time actually.
I just find him to be lazy far too often.
How is the 30 goal thing relevant? It's preference. I would trade him for virtually any other guy that pots a similar number of goals and twice on Sunday if the guy coming back played in the greasy zone which Hoffman won't