GDT: 2016-17 NHL Playoffs Thread - II

[ODAAT]

just saying though, he was the 4th leading Dman in points in the NHL. Im cool giving 6 mill to him over players like 38 point Backes and "leadership" he brings.

I`m not cool with a guy who puts those points up but can`t play D, especially when that players natural position is D

This team already has a 7 million dollar man who concerns me in DK, I`m not as disappointed in Backes as many here, I truly believe, with now a full season behind him in a new city, his family settled in and him settled in we`ll see his game improve.

Add to that some depth up front and that too will help

I put Shattenkirk in the same camp as Yandle, a severely overrated D-man and I mean over rated by fans

 

[KrejciMVP]

I`m not cool with a guy who puts those points up but can`t play D, especially when that players natural position is D

This team already has a 7 million dollar man who concerns me in DK, I`m not as disappointed in Backes as many here, I truly believe, with now a full season behind him in a new city, his family settled in and him settled in we`ll see his game improve.

Add to that some depth up front and that too will help

I put Shattenkirk in the same camp as Yandle, a severely overrated D-man and I mean over rated by fans

he may have some weaknesses with his D but thats not uncommon with offensive Dmen, you can acquire other D that focus more on D and combine them with the offensive Dman. Too often we are pinned in our own zone which hampers our forwards creating plays. I would like puck general to help with that weakness.

 

[ODAAT]

he may have some weaknesses with his D but thats not uncommon with offensive Dmen, you can acquire other D that focus more on D and combine them with the offensive Dman. Too often we are pinned in our own zone. I would like puck general to help with that weakness.

just not on the same page as you and that`s ok

I`d rather not spend 6-7 million at all than spend it on him

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Did you see that OT wrister by Shattenkirk.
The B's could use him next year. Go get'm Donnie.

Don't need Shattenkirk especially at the price he will be asking. Our top 4 of Chara, Carlo, Krug and McAvoy is solid. If we are to go big game hunting it should be for a top 6 forward.

 

[BMC]

This angle is the most indicative I'd say. An argument could be made that he was bracing himself for impact, but I dunno. The way his right hand grabs his stick at the opportune moment is a little too convenient for me.

Looks to me like Niskanen wasn't even looking at Crosby when he hit him, like he was looking across the crease to keep an eye on the puck and they just collided though Niskanen does have his stick up there.

But yeah it was Crosby so Niskanen will be suspended.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Looks to me like Niskanen wasn't even looking at Crosby when he hit him, like he was looking across the crease to keep an eye on the puck and they just collided though Niskanen does have his stick up there.

But yeah it was Crosby so Niskanen will be suspended.

Crosby's left knee looked like it bent on that fall

 

[BMC]

Crosby's left knee looked like it bent on that fall

Now that I've looked at it again you're right, it did bend. But I think Niskanen was too close & going too fast to stop though I don't like his stick being up there like that.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Now that I've looked at it again you're right, it did bend. But I think Niskanen was too close & going too fast to stop though I don't like his stick being up there like that.

I feel like I've seen this type of hit a Boston player this year and it went unpenalized.

 

[ODAAT]

Now that I've looked at it again you're right, it did bend. But I think Niskanen was too close & going too fast to stop though I don't like his stick being up there like that.

didn`t look good

I don`t want to see injury or concussion but to say I have any empathy for the Pens organization as a whole just won`t happen from this fan

 

[Over the volcano]

Sneaky and nasty hit by Niskanen. Hope he sits for a while.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I`m not cool with a guy who puts those points up but can`t play D, especially when that players natural position is D

This team already has a 7 million dollar man who concerns me in DK, I`m not as disappointed in Backes as many here, I truly believe, with now a full season behind him in a new city, his family settled in and him settled in we`ll see his game improve.

Add to that some depth up front and that too will help

I put Shattenkirk in the same camp as Yandle, a severely overrated D-man and I mean over rated by fans

Bingo. Exactly my thoughts when I think of Shattenkirk. Someone will severely overpay for this guy this offseason, I hope it isn't Sweeney

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Looks to me like Niskanen wasn't even looking at Crosby when he hit him, like he was looking across the crease to keep an eye on the puck and they just collided though Niskanen does have his stick up there.

But yeah it was Crosby so Niskanen will be suspended.

It's interesting that you should bring that up, because the lack of eye contact is a slightly strange factor in it all - if you're bracing for impact, you'd perhaps expect to be looking at the guy coming towards you. It's almost likes he's trying to not look inconspicuous - you've gotta remember that he was lining Crosby up for hit before he went down to his knees.

The final piece that I'll present to the jury is this shot from the Sportsnet site. Arms extended upon contact - that says enough for me. I'm convinced it was intentional.

It may be Crosby, but it sucks to see any player go down when they have a concussion history. Great players can be robbed of good years.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Sneaky and nasty hit by Niskanen. Hope he sits for a while.

It's interesting that you should bring that up, because the lack of eye contact is a slightly strange factor in it all - if you're bracing for impact, you'd perhaps expect to be looking at the guy coming towards you. It's almost likes he's trying to not look inconspicuous - you've gotta remember that he was lining Crosby up for hit before he went down to his knees.

The final piece that I'll present to the jury is this shot from the Sportsnet site. Arms extended upon contact - that says enough for me. I'm convinced it was intentional.

It may be Crosby, but it sucks to see any player go down when they have a concussion history. Great players can be robbed of good years.

Don't think the Niskanen hit was either sneaky or nasty and the Ovechkin slash that went uncalled was much worse IMO.

I think we have seen before many times how misrepresentative "still" photos can be on a play like this. Crosby was driving the net, he got slashed high by AO, and was on his knees when Niskanen (who was going to the back post) made contact. Niskanen was not even looking at Crosby, and despite the photo, didn't overly extend his arms, he just braced for contact. His stick wasn't even that high and would never have struck Crosby in the head if he wasn't falling down.

It should have been a 2 minute penalty at the most, and there was zero intent to injure. It was just an unfortunate hockey play (much like Crosby taking off the tip of Methot's finger or so I have been told), but because it was Crosby, and he stayed down, Niskanen got the gate.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Don't think the Niskanen hit was either sneaky or nasty and the Ovechkin slash that went uncalled was much worse IMO.

I think we have seen before many times how misrepresentative "still" photos can be on a play like this. Crosby was driving the net, he got slashed high by AO, and was on his knees when Niskanen (who was going to the back post) made contact. Niskanen was not even looking at Crosby, and despite the photo, didn't overly extend his arms, he just braced for contact. His stick wasn't even that high and would never have struck Crosby in the head if he wasn't falling down.

It should have been a 2 minute penalty at the most, and there was zero intent to injure. It was just an unfortunate hockey play (much like Crosby taking off the tip of Methot's finger or so I have been told), but because it was Crosby, and he stayed down, Niskanen got the gate.

I dont think the Niskanen hit was intentional. Im chalking this one up to **** happens in hockey. Its a fast game

 

[Therick67]

It's interesting that you should bring that up, because the lack of eye contact is a slightly strange factor in it all - if you're bracing for impact, you'd perhaps expect to be looking at the guy coming towards you. It's almost likes he's trying to not look inconspicuous - you've gotta remember that he was lining Crosby up for hit before he went down to his knees.

The final piece that I'll present to the jury is this shot from the Sportsnet site. Arms extended upon contact - that says enough for me. I'm convinced it was intentional.

It may be Crosby, but it sucks to see any player go down when they have a concussion history. Great players can be robbed of good years.

What is Niskanen supposed to do in that situation?

This is playoff hockey, it's tough, it's nasty and high in intensity. Slow motion or still photos don't do how quickly these things happen justice.

Cross checking someone and try yo injure them are two different things.

 

[Lobster57]

It's interesting that you should bring that up, because the lack of eye contact is a slightly strange factor in it all - if you're bracing for impact, you'd perhaps expect to be looking at the guy coming towards you. It's almost likes he's trying to not look inconspicuous - you've gotta remember that he was lining Crosby up for hit before he went down to his knees.

The final piece that I'll present to the jury is this shot from the Sportsnet site. Arms extended upon contact - that says enough for me. I'm convinced it was intentional.

It may be Crosby, but it sucks to see any player go down when they have a concussion history. Great players can be robbed of good years.

There should be a ban of using stills on controversial hits. They completely remove all context from the event

 

[Fenway]

 

[BMC]

I feel like I've seen this type of hit a Boston player this year and it went unpenalized.

Deja vu all over again.

 

[Over the volcano]

Don't think the Niskanen hit was either sneaky or nasty and the Ovechkin slash that went uncalled was much worse IMO.

I think we have seen before many times how misrepresentative "still" photos can be on a play like this. Crosby was driving the net, he got slashed high by AO, and was on his knees when Niskanen (who was going to the back post) made contact. Niskanen was not even looking at Crosby, and despite the photo, didn't overly extend his arms, he just braced for contact. His stick wasn't even that high and would never have struck Crosby in the head if he wasn't falling down.

It should have been a 2 minute penalty at the most, and there was zero intent to injure. It was just an unfortunate hockey play (much like Crosby taking off the tip of Methot's finger or so I have been told), but because it was Crosby, and he stayed down, Niskanen got the gate.

Disagree, Niskanen had no interference from another player, no reason to line him up and plenty of time to avoid crosschecking him in the head. I can see why people could claim it was unintentional, but Niskanen has the skill and awareness to avoid doing what he did. Hell, he even changed direction after Crosby started to fall. . .

 

[BMC]

I am very surprised.

I was sure since it was Crosby who got laid out Niskanen would be suspended whether he intended to injure Crosby or not.

 

[KrejciMVP]

good call there, Crosby basically fell into the hit and he was in front of the net where he shouldn't be if your an opposing D

 

[TMac21]

Like or Hate Crosby and the Pens, its not good to see him like that.

Ovy being Ovy with a dirty play to start the whole thing off.

 

[Hali33]

I don't think we'd be talking about that hit if it didn't happen to Crosby.

 

[BMC]

It's interesting that you should bring that up, because the lack of eye contact is a slightly strange factor in it all - if you're bracing for impact, you'd perhaps expect to be looking at the guy coming towards you. It's almost likes he's trying to not look inconspicuous - you've gotta remember that he was lining Crosby up for hit before he went down to his knees.

The final piece that I'll present to the jury is this shot from the Sportsnet site. Arms extended upon contact - that says enough for me. I'm convinced it was intentional.

It may be Crosby, but it sucks to see any player go down when they have a concussion history. Great players can be robbed of good years.

I think if a player is lining up to hit another player yes he's going to be looking at him to make sure he hits the guy, after all the guy has the ability to move to avoid contact. I don't see Niskanen doing that here but of course I can't read his mind as to his intention to injure Crosby or not.

 

[sarge88]

This further confuses me.

I think the Niskanen hit was dirty and purposeful. I can't believe that it isn't going to be subject to further discipline.

We've seen far less get punished more severely.