2014 reDraft #6

[izzy]

On a per-minute basis here are their numbers. Pietrangelo had a down year compared to previous season but was still better. Hedman's are in a different universe. Pietrangelo's are close, but as stated, it was a down year offensively for him. Between 2013-2018 Pietrangelo put up 1.05/60 at 5v5, Ekblad for his career is 0.83/60, with his best years coming in more sheltered usage, his best numbers in that regard actually come at 18 and 19.

Hedman: 1.14/60 at 5v5
Pietrangelo: 0.85/60
Ekblad: 0.76/60

I'm not saying Ekblad is a bad player. But I absolutely don't consider him a legit number #1 at this point in his career. He seems more like a Brent Seabrook type, which is a good #2. He's not the type of play-driving or point-producing #1 you generally want to build around. There's a fair argument for him going at 4 or 5 in this poll, but its not because he's a bonafide #1.

where are you getting those numbers?

i see ekblad at 1 and petro at 1.09

 

[93LEAFS]

where are you getting those numbers?

Corsica.

 

[izzy]

Corsica.

i see petro at 1.097 and ekblad at 1.006

 

[93LEAFS]

i see petro at 1.097 and ekblad at 1.006

You are looking at all-situations, not 5v5. But, I edited the post you responded to, to clairify.

 

[izzy]

You are looking at all-situations, not 5v5. But, I edited the post you responded to, to clairify.

says even strength

 

[93LEAFS]

says even strength

For Ekblad I have .76 at 5v5, .84 at ES and 1.05 in all situations. All from Corsica for this season.

 

[izzy]

For Ekblad I have .76 at 5v5, .84 at ES and 1.05 in all situations. All from Corsica for this season.

ekblad 1610 es, 27 points

petro 1367 es, 25 points

all 3 sites ive looked at have them at 1.006 and 1.097

 

[93LEAFS]

ekblad 1610 es, 27 points

petro 1367 es, 25 points

all 3 sites ive looked at have them at 1.006 and 1.097

My assumption is the discrepancy is coming from empty-net situations which some people count as ES and others count as a separate situations. Maybe Corsica is miscounting somewhere, which is possible.

 

[izzy]

My assumption is the discrepancy is coming from empty-net situations which some people count as ES and others count as a separate situations. Maybe Corsica is miscounting somewhere, which is possible.

either way, petro is considered a top 5-10 dman and their es production wasnt that far apart this season, he was ahead of doughty and oel.

your biggest knock on his overall play is his 5v5 production which isn’t actually that terrible. hes a weak skater but hes been floridas number 1 dman, playing in all situations and doing pretty well with it. id say hes a low end #1 at this point, maybe a strong #2 but hes also 23 going into this season.

i just cant see arvidsson ahead of him, thats wild

 

[93LEAFS]

either way, petro is considered a top 5-10 dman and their es production wasnt that far apart this season, he was ahead of doughty and oel.

your biggest knock on his overall play is his 5v5 production which isn’t actually that terrible. hes a weak skater but hes been floridas number 1 dman, playing in all situations and doing pretty well with it. id say hes a low end #1 at this point, maybe a strong #2 but hes also 23 going into this season.

i just cant see arvidsson ahead of him, thats wild

Fair enough. I don't think people are factoring in the age gap enough (it's 3 full years) relative to the other players. My main contention isn't Ekblad over Arvidsson, I just don't see him as #1 at this point in his career.

 

[izzy]

Fair enough. I don't think people are factoring in the age gap enough (it's 3 full years) relative to the other players. My main contention isn't Ekblad over Arvidsson, I just don't see him as #1 at this point in his career.

yeah i can get that as well. ive always been a fan of his and he seemed to improve a lot this year. expecting him to start really living up to the hype this year

 

[LaMasquerade]

Ekblad again..

 

[NotLeddy]

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