League News: 2014 Off-season Around the League Thread

[txpd]

I've already addressed that in the context of icetime and the expectation that Backstrom and Kuznetzov and possibly Laich will improve.

I don't see it that way. Your specific comment was that Brouwer contributes nothing at es. 13 goals at even strength and good for 4th on the team isn't nothing.

Sure Backstrom and Kuznetsov may well score 13 goals or more at even strength this season but you appear to dismiss out of hand that quality play from either of those players on an even strength line with Brouwer would tend in increase his goal production.

In fact skating with Kuznetsov at center might be the only step necessary to elevate Brouwer's goal totals to 30+.

again....13 es goals is contributing something. something by definition is not nothing.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

I don't see it that way. Your specific comment was that Brouwer contributes nothing at es. 13 goals at even strength and good for 4th on the team isn't nothing.

Sure Backstrom and Kuznetsov may well score 13 goals or more at even strength this season but you appear to dismiss out of hand that quality play from either of those players on an even strength line with Brouwer would tend in increase his goal production.

In fact skating with Kuznetsov at center might be the only step necessary to elevate Brouwer's goal totals to 30+.

again....13 es goals is contributing something. something by definition is not nothing.

IF the four holdovers who outscored him at ES continue their play and Laich/Backstrom/Kuznetzov get on track then Brouwer shouldn't be playing with any of them, so no, I wouldn't expect Brouwer to leech off of them.

 

[GJF]

thanks to people responding about Brouillette

 

[Ajax1995]

IF the four holdovers who outscored him at ES continue their play and Laich/Backstrom/Kuznetzov get on track then Brouwer shouldn't be playing with any of them, so no, I wouldn't expect Brouwer to leech off of them.

Yeah but in the same vein I could easily see Ward and Chimera not put up 16 and 15 ES goals respectively next season.

I'm not a huge Brouwer fan but he is far from a 4th liner IMO...

 

[txpd]

IF the four holdovers who outscored him at ES continue their play and Laich/Backstrom/Kuznetzov get on track then Brouwer shouldn't be playing with any of them, so no, I wouldn't expect Brouwer to leech off of them.

that's all fine. that's what you think. its also nice that you think getting better passes and finishing them is leeching. I hadn't considered ov riding on backstrom's coattails. I just thought that a good finisher will score more when the passing increases and improves.

still....you have not addressed my main point. that at even strength brouwer contributes nothing. 13 goals and top 4 on the team is more than nothing

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

that's all fine. that's what you think. its also nice that you think getting better passes and finishing them is leeching. I hadn't considered ov riding on backstrom's coattails. I just thought that a good finisher will score more when the passing increases and improves.

still....you have not addressed my main point. that at even strength brouwer contributes nothing. 13 goals and top 4 on the team is more than nothing

Again. He was not top 4. He was 6th in goals/estoi. And thats without Laich and Kuznetzov and with Backstrom on what is hopefully a down year.

He was our 6th best goalscorer on a terrible team. He will provide less on a more effective offensive team.

 

[txpd]

Again. He was not top 4. He was 6th in goals/estoi. And thats without Laich and Kuznetzov and with Backstrom on what is hopefully a down year.

He was our 6th best goalscorer on a terrible team. He will provide less on a more effective offensive team.

you keep moving the bar. he was 4th in es goals. period. lol.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

you keep moving the bar. he was 4th in es goals. period. lol.

Because he got more ice time than he deserved. As I've maintained from the start.

He is ineffective in that time relative to four returning players.

This has been a long conversation to get to the point where you predict his goal total next season. And when we're done there it'll be even more fun to discuss his postseason play.

 

[Ajax1995]

Because he got more ice time than he deserved. As I've maintained from the start.

He is ineffective in that time relative to four returning players.

I still say it will be very difficult for Ward and Chimera to repeat their ES goal scoring exploits from last season. The year before they had 6 and 0 ES goals respectively, compared to Brouwer's 11.

 

[txpd]

Because he got more ice time than he deserved. As I've maintained from the start.

He is ineffective in that time relative to four returning players.

This has been a long conversation to get to the point where you predict his goal total next season. And when we're done there it'll be even more fun to discuss his postseason play.

you said he contributes nothing. which is factually bull****. all the rest is your opinion, which you are entitled to of which I am not going to change. the guys scored 25 goals last season. he scored 13 es. its not nothing.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

you said he contributes nothing. which is factually bull****. all the rest is your opinion, which you are entitled to of which I am not going to change. the guys scored 25 goals last season. he scored 13 es. its not nothing.

It is not an opinion that he was only the sixth most effective goalscorer at even strength last year while tallying the 4th most ES time on the team.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

I still say it will be very difficult for Ward and Chimera to repeat their ES goal scoring exploits from last season. The year before they had 6 and 0 ES goals respectively, compared to Brouwer's 11.

I expect the ESG leaders next year to go something like

Ovechkin
Backstrom
Kuznetsov
Fehr
2 of Ward, Laich and Chimera
Brouwer

 

[txpd]

It is not an opinion that he was only the sixth most effective goalscorer at even strength last year while tallying the 4th most ES time on the team.

6th isn't nothing. spin it how you want. I see you stand by your statement. ok....something is nothing. I am done with this line of chat.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

6th isn't nothing. spin it how you want. I see you stand by your statement. ok....something is nothing. I am done with this line of chat.

If that's your takeaway that's fine with me.

Will he score 30 or 35 next year?

 

[txpd]

If that's your takeaway that's fine with me.

Will he score 30 or 35 next year?

you asked that question already. I answered it. already. I said that I would not be surprised. you said no chance. I said lets make a bet. are you missing this stuff or ignoring it?

I think more recently I said that the difference between 25 and 30 goals is maybe two big games. that if kuznetsov is his center and has a good season that I thought it very likely he scores 30+.

 

[BobRouse]

At ES Brouwer played with Backstrom or Ribs and notched 12 ES goals in 48 games.

Last year it was a mess. Grabovski missed a third of the season.

We'll see how Kuznetsov does but Brouwer can definitely contribute. He's not addition by subtraction and we could not easily find a replacement for him as it would be a stretch the think Ward or Fehr could step right in and duplicate their ES production last year. Ward shot at an absurdly high % and Fehr has been anything but consistent in that category.

 

[ChibiPooky]

Today is Sarge's day with the Cup.

 

[SimplySensational]

The Blue Jackets are back, they signed Sonny Milano and now instead of playing at Boston College, he will in the OHL.

 

[BobRouse]

The Blue Jackets are back, they signed Sonny Milano and now instead of playing at Boston College, he will in the OHL.

That team has some good young parts but I firmly believed they overachieved last year.

They remind me of the Ottawa team the year before last. They got very good goaltending, timely scoring, and played gritty "over their head" hockey. I think they will come down to earth this year and suffer a let down.

 

[ChibiPooky]

For those who haven't heard, the Islanders have been sold (to a former co-owner of the Caps) pending BOG approval.

 

[Islanders1932]

Jonathan Ledecky has bought the New York Islanders. Can Caps fans tell us anything about this guy?

 

[SimplySensational]

Jonathan Ledecky has bought the New York Islanders. Can Caps fans tell us anything about this guy?

DC sports teams fanbases reaction to every team owner: Only cares about money, constantly lies about wanting to win.

 

[usiel]

Jonathan Ledecky has bought the New York Islanders. Can Caps fans tell us anything about this guy?

Didn't he get bought out like in 2002? Not sure if anyone can crank back the memory banks that far.

 

[SimplySensational]

I kinda feel sorry for Islanders fans, they got all excited to only find out Wang will be a majority own for the next 2 years still.

Which is kind of interesting..

 

[Acallabeth]

I guess he won't get the last word in every decision though?