2014 - 2015 Coyotes Roster Part 6

[Vinny Boombatz]

I keep looking at the teams and wondering who we can beat in our conference, and I just don't think we'll come close to a playoff spot.

St.Louis, Nashville, Chicago, Anaheim, LA, San Jose are all clearly better teams.
that is 6 for sure

Then you have Minnesota, Dallas, Vancouver and Colorado who I think are better than us...and couple that with Calgary who is surprisingly playing really well and it leaves the Edmonton Oilers as the only team we'll finish ahead of.

 

[IPreferPi]

He's not, but I think he has the highest upside of the three...but Strome is plug-n-play while Zacha would be plug-n-play on 3rd line until ready.

I'm inclined towards that assessment as well.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I keep looking at the teams and wondering who we can beat in our conference, and I just don't think we'll come close to a playoff spot.

St.Louis, Nashville, Chicago, Anaheim, LA, San Jose are all clearly better teams.
that is 6 for sure

Then you have Minnesota, Dallas, Vancouver and Colorado who I think are better than us...and couple that with Calgary who is surprisingly playing really well and it leaves the Edmonton Oilers as the only team we'll finish ahead of.

So, tied with Winnipeg for 12th then?

 

[Grimes]

Greg Dillard ‏@GregDillard 41m41 minutes ago
Martin Hanzal is now 1st in the NHL with a 65.5 faceoff % this season #Coyotes

 

[The Grocery Stick]

Greg Dillard ‏@GregDillard 41m41 minutes ago
Martin Hanzal is now 1st in the NHL with a 65.5 faceoff % this season #Coyotes

Impressive stat, impressive player. May he stay healthy all year.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Greg Dillard ‏@GregDillard 41m41 minutes ago
Martin Hanzal is now 1st in the NHL with a 65.5 faceoff % this season #Coyotes

They flashed on the jumbotron last night he was 2nd with 64%. Is that a result of the wider hash marks + his height? Almost seems unfair. (They already changed the handpass off the dot in your own zone for him; he was a master at that).

 

[KG]

They flashed on the jumbotron last night he was 2nd with 64%. Is that a result of the wider hash marks + his height? Almost seems unfair. (They already changed the handpass off the dot in your own zone for him; he was a master at that).

It seems that way. The extra reach really helps him. He struggled the two years after they removed the hand pass.

 

[Etch]

Glad Hanzal is getting some recognition

 

[Sinurgy]

A common one is Jeff Carter.

That's it? I mean yeah that's someone I'd love to have on the Coyotes but absolutely not someone worth tanking for, not even close.

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

That's it? I mean yeah that's someone I'd love to have on the Coyotes but absolutely not someone worth tanking for, not even close.

I think thats more of a general playstyle comparison rather than what he will become. A lot of people also like to compare him to Getzlaf, but I don't really see it in his game, doesn't have the physical edge. I've seen Modano thrown around a bit as well.

 

[XX]

That's it? I mean yeah that's someone I'd love to have on the Coyotes but absolutely not someone worth tanking for, not even close.

Jeff Carter... if he cared a lot more about the game and had even more tools. Eichel is a physical freak. We're talking about PPG players here. It's absolutely worth it.

You don't get to turn in imaginary kudos for coming up short of the playoffs. Every slot higher if you're not going to make it is worth a lot.

 

[letowskie]

Jeff Carter... if he cared a lot more about the game and had even more tools. Eichel is a physical freak. We're talking about PPG players here. It's absolutely worth it.

You don't get to turn in imaginary kudos for coming up short of the playoffs. Every slot higher if you're not going to make it is worth a lot.

More importantly he seems to be the type of leader that can carry a team, and elevate the play of the rest of the team:

http://nesn.com/2014/11/bus-jack-eichel-named-national-rookie-of-the-month-for-october/

Definitely worth it, as a few others such as Barzal, Bittener, Strome, Marner, etc. Any one of those would be in the next echelon of forwards compared to any current talent in the organization.

 

[Plub]

That's it? I mean yeah that's someone I'd love to have on the Coyotes but absolutely not someone worth tanking for, not even close.

It's a type of style comparison. The top two this year are franchise players, unquestionably. Eichel is almost a 2 ppg player in the NCAA. It isn't like Jr. hockey. It's more difficult to score and you're generally going against older kids. Not to mention he's doing this as a freshman and he just turned 18.

They are in a different class compared to the last few overall picks.

 

[KG]

More speculation from hockey media on a Coyotes roster shake-up:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-bad-start-could-lead-to-blow-up-for-coyotes/

 

[XX]

More speculation from hockey media on a Coyotes roster shake-up:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-bad-start-could-lead-to-blow-up-for-coyotes/

Mostly a rehash of what has already been said. Best part is this comment at the bottom:

This article is way too premature - existing roster just needs to gel a bit more and play Tippett's system along with Smitty getting hot and it'll be the Sharks & Kings chasing the Coyotes for the division title

Do you even hockey?

 

[KG]

Mostly a rehash of what has already been said. Best part is this comment at the bottom:



Do you even hockey?

'Execution'.

 

[rt]

I personally don't think Carter is a great comparison. Eichel is big and strong with a good shot. So they're similar in that way. I think Eichel has a lot more flash and dash, though. Plus, I think he'll end up a little nastier. A little more like Jeremy Roenick? Probably not quite that mean, though.

 

[IPreferPi]

That's it? I mean yeah that's someone I'd love to have on the Coyotes but absolutely not someone worth tanking for, not even close.

As others have said, it's more of a style comparison, and Eichel himself says he tries to model his game after Carter. But from what I've seen of him (and admittedly I've seen a lot more tape of McDavid than Eichel lol), Eichel can play far more of a power game than Carter. I like the Modano comparison - another one is Eric Staal. Roenick and Messier are okay too, although I don't think Eichel will be that ornery.

Lots of gems to be had in this draft, but hoo boy, McEichel are unquestionably at the top.

 

[Plub]

They briefly spoke of the Coyotes on NBC. I think there's definitely something to the rumors of the new owner coming in and rebuilding the team to be more than just a team that tries to get by.

That would likely mean DT is out and GMDM will have a choice to embrace it or leave. All speculation of course.

 

[XX]

They briefly spoke of the Coyotes on NBC. I think there's definitely something to the rumors of the new owner coming in and rebuilding the team to be more than just a team that tries to get by.

That would likely mean DT is out and GMDM will have a choice to embrace it or leave. All speculation of course.

Play above .500 in the next few weeks and all that will go away... until it's too late.

 

[Jakey53]

They briefly spoke of the Coyotes on NBC. I think there's definitely something to the rumors of the new owner coming in and rebuilding the team to be more than just a team that tries to get by.

That would likely mean DT is out and GMDM will have a choice to embrace it or leave. All speculation of course.

I'm glad you added ''speculation'' in your sentence. We wouldn't want the rumor mills to start, would we.

 

[Mosby]

They briefly spoke of the Coyotes on NBC. I think there's definitely something to the rumors of the new owner coming in and rebuilding the team to be more than just a team that tries to get by.

That would likely mean DT is out and GMDM will have a choice to embrace it or leave. All speculation of course.

It's definitely interesting to see the Coyotes/McEichel story flowing from so many different sources. It gives it a lot more credence.

If Barroway gives GMDM the opportunity to embrace McEichel, what's stopping that same opportunity from being extended to Tipp?

But, if Tipp is to go, I'd still like to see a few more options than just Ulf. That's not a shot at Ulf -- more so, due diligence.
Who else is available? Bylsma? Wilson? Babcock in the summer (doubt it)? Torts (Tipp 2.0)? Brent Sutter? John Stevens? Dale Hunter?

 

[rt]

I'm more than a little disappointed that the hockey world has embraced a name mash-up for these two and decided on "McEichel" rather than "CoJack". The latter is way better.

 

[IPreferPi]

I'm more than a little disappointed that the hockey world has embraced a name mash-up for these two and decided on "McEichel" rather than "CoJack". The latter is way better.

CoJack - the Grail Stalker

 

[RABBIT]

Would be surprised if Tippett and Maloney BOTH get canned, but change is welcomed after 3 years of pure mediocrity I suppose.

EDIT: oh, now this all makes sense. Turns out Tippett isn't the only one in his family that's a questionable supervisor