2014 - 2015 Coyotes Roster Part 3

[rt]

Think of who we are replacing...

Top 13 F in GP in 13/14

1. Vermette
2. Boedker
3. Chipchura
4. Ribeiro
5. Vrbata
6. Moss
7. Klinkhammer
8. Doan
9. Halpern
10. Hanzal
11. Korpikoski
12. Bissonnette
13. Kennedy

Out are Ribeiro, Vrbata, Moss, Halpern, Bissonnette and Kennedy

In are Gagner, Erat, Crombeen, Vitale, McMillan, and Domi

 

[Jakey53]

Think of who we are replacing...

Top 13 F in GP in 13/14

1. Vermette
2. Boedker
3. Chipchura
4. Ribeiro
5. Vrbata
6. Moss
7. Klinkhammer
8. Doan
9. Halpern
10. Hanzal
11. Korpikoski
12. Bissonnette
13. Kennedy

Out are Ribeiro, Vrbata, Moss, Halpern, Bissonnette and Kennedy

In are Gagner, Erat, Crombeen, Vitale, McMillan, and Domi

Younger and faster for sure. I love the addition of Vitale and his F/O%. We really missed that last year and I think our puck possession will increase because of him.

 

[lanky]

Think of who we are replacing...

Top 13 F in GP in 13/14

1. Vermette
2. Boedker
3. Chipchura
4. Ribeiro
5. Vrbata
6. Moss
7. Klinkhammer
8. Doan
9. Halpern
10. Hanzal
11. Korpikoski
12. Bissonnette
13. Kennedy

Out are Ribeiro, Vrbata, Moss, Halpern, Bissonnette and Kennedy

In are Gagner, Erat, Crombeen, Vitale, McMillan, and Domi

That's a good way of looking at it.

We can hope that Gagner matches Ribeiro's output.

I'm sure that McMillan - Vitale - Crombeen will be better than Moss - Halpern - Biz

Then we can also hope that Domi and Erat can match the output of Vrbata and Kennedy.

 

[rt]

Yeah, I think it comes down to Domi and Erat versus Kennedy and Vrbata.

If we can add a Versteeg, Stempniak, Ott, or Winnik, than all the better.

Either way, the sky has not fallen. This unit should be harder working and more cohesive. Harder to play against and better on the PK.

 

[Grimes]

Yeah, I think it comes down to Domi and Erat versus Kennedy and Vrbata.

If we can add a Versteeg, Stempniak, Ott, or Winnik, than all the better.

Either way, the sky has not fallen. This unit should be harder working and more cohesive. Harder to play against and better on the PK.

Yep, it's going to be all about rolling three lines that can be defensively responsible and still productive offensively. I think last season everyone wanted to see a true top line so badly that we didn't realize we had AHLers sprinkled throughout the lineup.

 

[cobra427]

Yeah, I think it comes down to Domi and Erat versus Kennedy and Vrbata.

If we can add a Versteeg, Stempniak, Ott, or Winnik, than all the better.

Either way, the sky has not fallen. This unit should be harder working and more cohesive. Harder to play against and better on the PK.

Agree with this....Our D should be better too.

 

[DesertDawg]

He may be worth the gamble. He looked promising after his first year, then nothing.

Oilers did a lousy job developing Paajarvi and now he is stuck on the Blues' (with their depth) 4th line. IMO, the Coyotes could resurrect his career. It's also better than expecting Domi to be penciled in without giving him any competition in camp. It would be an ideal trade if the Blues would consider Klinkhammer or Chipchura as part of the return (whom IMO, are better typical 4th line forwards).

 

[letowskie]

Oilers did a lousy job developing Paajarvi and now he is stuck on the Blues' (with their depth) 4th line. IMO, the Coyotes could resurrect his career. It's also better than expecting Domi to be penciled in without giving him any competition in camp. It would be an ideal trade if the Blues would consider Klinkhammer or Chipchura as part of the return (whom IMO, are better typical 4th line forwards).

It seems like a doable option. I don't think the Blues are looking to take on salary, think they have to resign Sobotka (another player we might be able to obtain) and Schwartz, and need more cap space. It would be very nice if we can get Berglund + MPS in a package of some kind.

I went to send a feeler a while ago on the Blues' forum, they seem to be OK with Lessio + 2nd as a base value for Berglund:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=87645417&postcount=91

If we can add a depth prospect that they can bury in the juniors or minor for another year before he has to be given a 1-way contract, then I think there is a realistic chance for Berglund + MPS coming our way. Could be a very good line with Gagner, a combination of size, skill, and speed; with a passer and shooter on that line.

 

[Jakey53]

It seems like a doable option. I don't think the Blues are looking to take on salary, think they have to resign Sobotka (another player we might be able to obtain) and Schwartz, and need more cap space. It would be very nice if we can get Berglund + MPS in a package of some kind.

I went to send a feeler a while ago on the Blues' forum, they seem to be OK with Lessio + 2nd as a base value for Berglund:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=87645417&postcount=91

If we can add a depth prospect that they can bury in the juniors or minor for another year before he has to be given a 1-way contract, then I think there is a realistic chance for Berglund + MPS coming our way. Could be a very good line with Gagner, a combination of size, skill, and speed; with a passer and shooter on that line.

St. Louis just signed Berglund for three more years, and I would think he will be their 3rd line center.

 

[Grimes]

It seems like a doable option. I don't think the Blues are looking to take on salary, think they have to resign Sobotka (another player we might be able to obtain) and Schwartz, and need more cap space. It would be very nice if we can get Berglund + MPS in a package of some kind.

I went to send a feeler a while ago on the Blues' forum, they seem to be OK with Lessio + 2nd as a base value for Berglund:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=87645417&postcount=91

If we can add a depth prospect that they can bury in the juniors or minor for another year before he has to be given a 1-way contract, then I think there is a realistic chance for Berglund + MPS coming our way. Could be a very good line with Gagner, a combination of size, skill, and speed; with a passer and shooter on that line.

I think this looks pretty good. My only qualm is that MPS seems like a very similar player to Ganger (correct me if I'm wrong). If we were to pick him up with Berglund I don't see where he fits on the roster. Also, it's tough to want to give up a prospect like Lessio without giving him a shot. Maybe after a month into the season this would make more sense.

 

[rt]

Paajarvi is more like Sjostrom than anyone. He has great wheels, good size, goes to the net but has no finish. At least none that he's shown so far. Kind of like what Virtanen critics are scared he will end up like. Toolsy, willingto go to the net, and really nothing much else.

 

[XX]

Wouldn't do Lessio and a 2nd for Berglund. Even though he has a good contract, he's 26 and will be getting paid full bore. I'll take the gamble that Lessio turns out to be more than a 40 point guy.

 

[Grimes]

Paajarvi is more like Sjostrom than anyone. He has great wheels, good size, goes to the net but has no finish. At least none that he's shown so far. Kind of like what Virtanen critics are scared he will end up like. Toolsy, willingto go to the net, and really nothing much else.

Ah ok, I think it's his name that just sounds like he should be a play maker; Magnus.

 

[DesertDawg]

St. Louis just signed Berglund for three more years, and I would think he will be their 3rd line center.

I see Sobotka as their 3rd line center, or maybe Sobotka just taking faceoffs for Berglund, regardless, both will be in their line-up.
Paajarvi has already shown more than Freddy Sjostrom has. 23 yo MP has scored 3/4 goals as many as FS had in his career.

 

[XX]

I see Sobotka as their 3rd line center, or maybe Sobotka just taking faceoffs for Berglund, regardless, both will be in their line-up.
Paajarvi has already shown more than Freddy Sjostrom has. 23 yo MP has scored 3/4 goals as many as FS had in his career.

Paajarvi would be a more likable version of Moss here. Zero finish.

 

[IPreferPi]

Wouldn't mind going after MPS and we might be able to salvage his career. But I kinda agree that at this point he's looking like a younger, less frustrating Dave Moss - a solid defensive forward who can't finish worth a damn.

Which is why my bargain bin reclamation project would be someone more like Zac Dalpe, who's young and has all the tools to be a scorer (and from most accounts I've been reading from Canucks HFers, actually looked pretty decent in his limited minutes last season). A cheap and possibly ideal triggerman for Gagner.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

I like Dalpe. I don't like MPS.

 

[IPreferPi]

More today from Craig Morgan regarding our budget for this season: http://msn.foxsports.com/arizona/story/prospect-camp-gives-coyotes-glimpse-of-future-070714

While the Coyotes anticipate being in the middle third of NHL teams when it comes to cap hit (somewhere between 18 and 20), they still expect to spend a similar amount to the 2013-14 season on actual salaries. That number is believed to be between $55 million and $57 million.

With 23 players under contract, the Coyotes are spending about $53.195 million, with a cap hit of about $56.434 million, according to capgeek.com and other sources. This list includes Max Domi and Lucas Lessio, who are the most likely of the team's prospects to make the club.

Arizona isn't likely to carry eight defenseman on its opening-day roster. The team is more likely to carry 14 forwards and seven defensemen. While Brandon Gormley or Connor Murphy could start the year in Portland of the AHL, both are expected to make the roster, which could mean the Coyotes could expose Chris Summers to waivers to re-assign him or the team could make a trade.

 

[njd118]

They don't call us the phoenix coyotes anymore?

 

[KG]

Gormley, Murphy, or Summers in the AHL?

Ouch.

 

[IPreferPi]

They don't call us the phoenix coyotes anymore?

Not since the Draft...

 

[IPreferPi]

Gormley, Murphy, or Summers in the AHL?

Ouch.

Boggles me that Schlemko is still being auto-penciled into our roster. 1.3M right there being tied up for a 7th D who has no business getting minutes over Gormley or Summers as our 3LD.

 

[KG]

If I'm Gormley I'm pissed if I start the season in the AHL.

 

[SniperHF]

We carried 8 D a ton last season. I'm not sure I buy Craig's assertion there.

 

[rt]

Murphy should go to the AHL until we can unload Schlemko.