Out East
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You can also look at the west as being at a disadvantage for have less non playoff teams to steal points from. If you plan to win the cup it's completely irrelevant.
Human nature is entertaining. At least Happy admitted the real problem (I hate change).
It wouldn't matter what arrangement was made it would be %^^&*(^ about by all kinds of people.
You can't make a clean East West set up because there isn't one.
The playoff imbalance is annoying but likely intentional because they probably want to grow the game in the west which is what needs to happen.
Relax and enjoy it. ^&*^(%^&* about it won't change anything but your blood pressure.
In life, there are times that you can tell that the old way of doing things is broken, and needs to be fixed. People welcome change then.
But what's broken with the format we've had for ages now?
What's broken? Rewarding a division winner in a system that has nothing to do with divisions really? A system where a team with not enough points to get in the top 8 can finish 3rd? If you call that not broken...
It's much fairer than this newer format. It makes more geographical sense than this newer format.
Explain how Detroit in the west makes any geographical sense?
Can you tell me what would be wrong with simply switching Columbus with Winnipeg, and leaving everything else as is?
The reality is the league is not set up for East/West. You can drive, yes drive from Detroit to Toronto or Buffalo faster than you can fly to Vancouver, SJ, LA, ANA, Dallas, etc...
Like many others have pointed out, this is totally dumb. Frankly, it's bush-league stuff. It's a total gong show.
This is your opinion. Pretty arrogant to think you're better informed and a better decision maker than the NHL, the NHLPA, and the board of governors who have millions and millions of dollars invested...
No, I think if you had just switched Winnipeg with Columbus it would have been received with way less protest.
We already had a clean East West set up. So of course you can make one.
This is only true if you aren't a Detroit fan... Even Chicago and St. Louis are far closer to the east than the west.. see above or look at a map...
Two problems with this argument:
1. Dragging a big, Original Six market like Detroit out of the west hardly strikes me as the best way to "grow the game in the west".
Would you like to be a fan in San Jose and your team has a huge game against Detroit for playoff positioning or worse a playoff game and the game starts at 4:30 in the afternoon when you are still at work or stuck in traffic?
2. And there aren't teams in the East that need help as well? If I'm a Panthers or Lightning fan, I feel like my teams are just totally screwed now. They get to compete in a division with four original six teams, and Buffalo and Ottawa.
Yes totally screwed. The Florida owners HATE it when the big teams come to town and sell out their arenas... As far as competitiveness they have to beat some of those teams now to make the playoffs and as it stands this year there is no format that would put either of them in the playoffs.
Face it, you are not looking at the big picture because if you were you would know there are no clean cut solutions for a league that is geographically imbalanced.
If it were me, I'd look at a whole new paradigm that didn't think East/West at all.
When the League does truly dumb stuff, it's good for hockey fans to point it out. Sports fans should always hold their favorite sports leagues accountable.
Having detroit in our division is great right now because they aren't the powerhouse that they used to be. However, Holland is one of the best GM's in the game, I wouldn't expect Detroit to be weak for too long. So this could hurt us as much as help
This should be fun. At least we are getting Detroit now that they are finally going downhill
Not sure if they are downhill just yet.
Should be an interesting alignment.
So... how does it work exactly? Top 4 teams in the division make it? And then 1vs4, 2vs3, winners play each other, and then division winner vs division winner?
If the 5th place team in one division is way better than the 4th in the other, are there crossovers?
It does add for some divisionally rivalry, but only in 1 matchup per division. Better off having the 2nd place finishing team with the most points (excluding Division winners) should play the 3rd place finishing team with the least points, regardless of division. You could have a divisional matchup, or you could not. My point is, why does 2-3 matchup get a divisional match and not 1-4 (i'm guessing cuz Wild Card system).The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs.
It goes top 3 in each division and then the next 2 in the conference. So Division A and B can each send 1 wild card team.
Still a blunder by the NHL. They can't seem to get it right.
I would prefer a TOP 16 make the playoffs, this way it doesn't matter what division you play in. (Top 3 from each division and 4 wild cards for the entire league)
WHY are Florida and Tampa Bay in C???????????????
Politics. The Atlantic division teams didn't want them, and they have a lot of pull at league HQ.WHY are Florida and Tampa Bay in C???????????????