WJC: 2011 U18 World Championship (rosters and general talk)

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  1. cska78

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    who are the favorites...US and SWE?
     
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    I would also like to know.

    My guess is the usual suspects, USA, Canada (even without their best players), Sweden, Finland (that seem to have a good team this year, awful Ivan Hlinka though).

    Who else? How good is the russians? Czech rep. always seems to lack the depth to compete, they did good in Ivan Hlinka though.

    I have no idea how team Sweden will do, the great agegroups 1990 and 1991 failed miserable in this tournament, but the much weaker 1992:s took home the silver and the not so very awesome 1989:s the bronze. Theres no logic when it comes to Team Sweden and this championship.
     
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    - USA is the favourite, I don't think there's any question about that.

    - Finland didn't do well @ Ivan Hlinka Memorial, but they'll have anywhere from 8 to 12 new players on their team, so the results could be very different. If Samu Perhonen lives up to the hype in net, they could be a Semi-Final team.

    - Jaskin, Musil and Frk for Czech Republic could be interesting.

    - Canada's goaltending might be a problem this year, at least there has been some talk about it.

    - Yakupov could easily be the most dominant player in this tournament.
     
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    Will the CHL-players be there? I didn't know Czech could bring Frk, Musil and Jaskin and Russia Yakupov. Is it because some special deal or is it because they play on bad teams that didn't make the playoffs (or bound to be out of the CHL-playoffs soon). Maybe Sweden could bring Rakell then?

    I don't know how good Sweden will do, since I don't really know the strenght of the other nations. Since the good Ivan Hlinka the u-18 team has been slumping and been having bad results. Is it a sign that Sweden is not as strong as we think this year and the other big nations have better agegroups or just a underachieving team.

    On paper the team looks great though allthough goalies are a questionmark.
     
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    I don't really want to discuss t-Russia, because when I look at the roster - I am in a face palm state.
     
  6. Fulcrum

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    Russian team is SO corrupt that there is very high chance of it relegating to the lower division.

    There are 4-5 absolute Good prospects on the team, and the rest are the money-makers for the coach. Speaking of the coach, the fact that he hasn't been fired yet for being the worst team leading up to the U18 tourny ... just SUPER FACE PALM. ^



    The more I see this, the more I realise how much russian hockey fed is holding back the developement.

    this is a great example: Son of the local governor...
    http://mhl.khl.ru/players/16474/
     
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    If CHL players can be there then I'd say the Czech's could actually do well this year. Musil, Hrbas, Frk, Stransky, Kalus, Nedomlel, Beranek as well as Jaskin with Machovsky and Honzik as goalies. That's actually pretty strong for the Czech's. That being said I don't know if all those guys are eligible.
     
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    Yakupov's Sarnia Sting didn't make the play-offs and his name is already on Russia's camp roster. Frk's Halifax Mooseheads and Musil's Vancouver Giants were eliminated in the first round of play-offs, so they should be available too. Rakell's Plymouth Whalers is leading their play-offs series against Kitchener Rangers by (3-1), so it looks like they might be advancing to the second round of play-offs.
     
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    Ah I see thanks for the insight. Then Czech rep. is going to have a pretty strong team afterall. Rakell is injured, so he wont be available anyway I believe. I don't know why there isn't more hype about this tournament, since it's very important for the draft. Must be because Canada don't send their A-team.

    USA is the clear favourite judging from this seasons result. This swedish agegroup have had good games against USA though now and then, but never seem to be able to beat them really. In last years u-17 championship I think Sweden outshoot them pretty badly but still lost. USA always win against Sweden nowadays on most junior levels.
     
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    2011 World U18 Championship (rosters and general talk)

    There's already a similar thread on the International Tournaments board, but the business is a tad slow there, so perhaps we get more discussion here.

    Link to schedule and stats

     
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    Team Finland's 2nd camp roster

     
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    Russia's camp roster from here

    Goalies:
    Vasilevski Andrei 27.07.1994 188 83 Salavt Julajev
    Djatlov Oleg 31.01.1993 180 65 Avtomobilist
    Shegalo Pavel 07.02.1993 188 80 Krylja Sovetov

    Defensemen:
    Vasilevski Aleksei 21.01.1993 179 89 Salavt Julajev
    Vorshev Konstantin 26.05.1993 183 79 Vitjaz
    Nesterov Nikita 28.03.1993 183 75 Traktor
    Palenga Jevgeni 27.01.1993 184 81 Spartak
    Sabinin Gennadi 29.09.1993 179 79 Vitjaz
    Saveljev Anton 04.02.1993 189 80 Ak Bars
    Shuvalov Maksim 23.04.1993 190 83 Lokomotiv
    Jarullin Albert 03.05.1993 175 69 Ak Bars

    Forwards:
    Agejev Eduard 06.09.1993 180 77 Molot Prikamje
    Grigorenko Mihail 16.05.1994 189 84 TsSKA
    Ivanjuzhenkov Anton 02.01.1994 178 87 Vitjazb
    Kadeikin Aleksandr 04.10.1993 191 85 Atlant
    Konkov Roman 04.03.1993 176 79 Tshaika
    Kucherov Nikita 17.06.1993 178 74 TsSKA
    Mihailov Dmitri 02.05.1993 180 77 Metallurg Mg
    Slepyshev Anton 13.05.1994 183 72 Dizjel
    Smurov Sergei 26.07.1993 181 77 Amur
    Tkatshev Vladimir 05.10.1993 178 72 Ak Bars
    Shalunov Maksim 31.01.1993 190 84 Traktor
    Shamin Aleksei 02.09.1993 179 75 Lokomotiv
    Jakimov Bogdan 04.10.1994 193 90 Neftehimik
    Yakupov Nail 06.10.1993 180 73 Sarnia Sting
     
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    The USNTDP U18 team has played 8 international games this year and has a 7-1 record...

    November 4 Nations Tournament
    1-3 loss vs Sweden (Exhibition)
    3-2 win vs Finland
    8-3 win vs Switzerland
    5-4 (SO) win vs Sweden

    February 5 Nations Tournament
    6-2 win vs Sweden
    10-4 win vs Russia
    3-1 win vs Czech Republic
    7-4 win vs Finland

    Stats...

    U.S. National Under-18 Team (2010-11 vs. International Competition)
    Name GP G A PTS PIM PPG SHG GWG Pts./ Gm.
    Rocco Grimaldi 8 9 8 17 10 6 0 2 2.12
    Reid Boucher 8 8 6 14 4 2 1 1 1.75
    J.T. Miller 8 3 8 11 6 0 1 2 1.38
    Blake Pietila 8 5 3 8 8 0 1 1 1.00
    Cole Bardreau 8 3 5 8 2 0 0 0 1.00
    Robbie Russo 8 1 7 8 6 0 0 0 1.00
    Tyler Biggs 8 4 3 7 20 2 0 0 0.88
    Travis Boyd 8 2 4 6 2 1 0 0 0.75
    Michael Paliotta 8 1 4 5 12 0 0 0 0.62
    Ryan Haggerty 8 1 3 4 2 0 0 0 0.50
    Adam Reid 8 2 1 3 2 0 0 1 0.38
    Jake McCabe 8 1 2 3 4 1 0 0 0.38
    Mario Lucia 4 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.50
    Nicolas Kerdiles 4 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.50
    Matt Van Voorhis 8 0 2 2 4 0 0 0 0.25
    Zac Larraza 8 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0.12
    Joe Fiala 8 0 1 1 12 0 0 0 0.12
    Max Everson 4 0 1 1 4 0 0 0 0.25
    Connor Murphy 4 0 1 1 4 0 0 0 0.00
    Barrett Kaib 8 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0.00
    Dan Carlson 8 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0.00
    Andy Ryan 8 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0.00
    John Gibson 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0.00
    Matt McNeely 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00
    Matt Killian 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00
    Austin Wuthrich 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00
    Bench
    TOTALS 42 62 104 118 12 3 7
    GOALTENDERS GPI Min. W L OTL/Tie SO GA Saves GAA Save %
    John Gibson 4 240 3 1 0 0 9 119 2.25 0.930
    Matt McNeely 4 240 4 0 0 0 14 115 3.50 0.891
    TOTALS 8 480 7 1 0.0 0 23 234 2.88 0.911
     
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    Where's Zakhar Arzamastsev for Russia?
     
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    Too old, combing the grey out - 6-Nov-92.
     
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    Team Norway


    Espen Johansen NTG Frisk Asker 1993
    Steffen Søberg Manglerud Star 1993
    Joachim Svendsen Manglerud Star 1994


    Martin Bjørnsland Stjernen Hockey 1993
    Jørgen Forgaard Stavanger Oilers 1993
    Alexander Fors Djurgården, Swe 1994
    Iver HÃ¥land Stjernen Hockey 1993
    Filip Jacobsson Västra Frølund, Swe 1993
    Erlend Lesund Manglerud Star 1994
    Marcus Noteng Rosenborg 1994
    John Nicolay Nesgaard VÃ¥lerenga Ishockey 1993
    Sebastian Kjos Sæves Lørenskog 1993


    Adrian Aslaksen IHK Sparta Sarpsborg 1993
    Marius Günther Manglerud Star 1993
    Andreas Heier Stjernen Hockey 1993
    Magnus Hoff VÃ¥lerenga Ishockey 1993
    Jørgen Karterud Vålerenga Ishockey 1994
    Jonas Knutsen Timrå IK, Swe 1993
    Martin Lund Stjernen Ishockey 1993
    Endre Medby NTG Lillehammer 1994
    Markus Bilstad Pedersen VÃ¥lerenga Ishockey 1994
    Espen Fanøy Salo Manglerud Star 1993
    Eirik Salsten Storhamar 1994
    Markus Søberg Manglerud Star 1995
    Didrik Tollefsen Stjernen Hockey 1994
    Matthias Trettenes Modo Hockey, Swe 1993
    Sebastian Weberg Shattuck St.Marys, USA 1993


    9 players are born in 94 and 1 95 born player. A very young team but the 94 generation is one of the best in recent Norwegian hockey history. Most of these guys have already played a lot of games in the Norwegian Elite league.

    Look out for the Søberg brothers. The goalie Steffen has played senior hockey in the Norwegian Elite League for 2 seasons already. He also had a prrety good tournament in the WJC in Buffallo earlier this season. SVS% 91,5 is not bad for a 17 year old playing for a weak team.

    His brother Markus is in my opinion the most talented hockeyplayer to ever come out of Norway. At the age of 16 he will probably be one of the youngest player in the whole tournament. He is an exellent skater, plays very physical hockey and he can finish. He could be a name for the first round of the 2013 draft. He will play for the J20 team in Frolunda in Sweden the next season. I would compare him a little bit to Mikael Bodker when he was the same age.

    Other players worth a notice is Magnus Hoff who has been playing some good hockey for VÃ¥lerenga of the Norwegian Elite League. Jonas Knutsen and Mathias Trettenes has had a good season in the Swedish junior leagues, the same can be said of Fillip Jacobson.

    All in all I think this team will go down and then probably go up again the next year, but it will be a usefull experience for these guys.
     
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    From Middle Europe forum in Czech thread

    pretty sure Frk is part of the forwards at this point.
     
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    yes Halifax Mooseheads twitter said he was going to the u-18.
     
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    This year I fear we'll be relegation round-bound :(
     
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    One would think that having Yakupov, Grigorenko, Shalunov and Kucherov among others is enough fire-power to challenge most teams, or at least Switzerland, Slovakia and Germany in Group-A, no?

    I know that some big names were left out, but perhaps the goal was to assemble a better two-way team with only few star players, similarly to the WJC's? Or is the system really so corrupt that friendships and perhaps even money are a major factor in these selections? How many of the players on that squad look totally out of place?
     
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    Prelimary roster Switzerland:

    Boltshauser Luca 17.07. 93 G GCK Lions
    Bonvin Patrick 23.02. 93 G Kloten Flyers
    Huber Kevin 01.05. 93 G EV Zug
    Kuonen Robin 02.03. 94 G EHC Visp


    Antonietti Eliot 27.01. 93 D Genève-Servette HC
    Guerra Samuel 11.05. 93 D HC Davos
    Hächler Cédric 01.07. 93 D GCK Lions
    Hebeisen Silvan 15.07. 93 D SC Bern Future
    Kreis Sämi 04.04. 94 D SC Bern Future
    Kukan Dean 08.07. 93 D ZSC Lions
    Lanzarotti Alessandro 25.02. 94 D EV Zug
    Leu Marwin 21.06. 93 D Kloten Flyers
    Marti Christian 29.03. 93 D Kloten Flyers
    Stucki Marcel 13.06. 93 D SCL Tigers
    Wittwer Christopher 23.01. 93 D GCK Lions


    Amstutz Reto 24.02. 93 F SC Bern Future
    Andrighetto Sven 21.03. 93 F GCK Lions
    Balmelli Lukas 03.01. 94 F HC Lugano
    Bertaggia Alessio 30.07. 93 F HC Lugano
    Bertschy Christoph 05.04. 94 F SC Bern Future
    Celio Yannic 14.08. 93 F Kloten Flyers
    Dal Pian Giacomo 20.06. 93 F HC Lugano
    Grassi Daniele 27.01. 93 F HC Ambri-Piotta
    Hoffmann Luka 17.01. 93 F Kloten Flyers
    Leone Robin 30.03. 93 F Kloten Flyers
    Martschini Lino 21.01. 93 F Petersborough Petes/OHL
    Neuenschwander Jan 10.01. 93 F HC Davos
    Richard Tanner 06.04. 93 F Rapperswil-Jona Lakers
    Schmutz Julian 28.02. 94 F SC Bern Future
    Simion Dario 22.05. 94 F HC Lugano
    Zangger Sandro 27.08. 94 F ZSC Lions


    Haven't heard a lot of the goalkeepers

    93 born D is deep and solid, but lacks elite offensive talent, the best 94 born defender Rouiller is injured. Kreis or Lanzarotti making the team isn't out of question.

    93 born O isn't deep but very talented at the top end, unfortunately, they lack size severly. (Bertaggia, Martschini, Andrighetto). They will be fun to watch, expect them to play with alot of heart. T. Richard had some solid ice time on a desperate team in NLA that was fighting relegation and didn't fall off.

    From the underagers C. Bertschy will have a big role, I expect J. Schmutz to make the team as well. They are both very promising. We'll see about the others.

    IMO, they will finish 2nd at best (beating Russia) and 4th at worst in their group.
     
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    Those players are among the best of the tournament, however, they are not enough. Last year's team IMHO was better (as a whole) even with less top-level names. And it especially had a way better coach.

    Not the news, unfortunately.
     
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    That bad for Russia?

    Hmmmm...
     
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