2009 draft - one of the all time best?

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  1. Jayevs

    Jayevs Formerly avsman

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    i know its pretty early still as these guys will be entering only their 3rd season if they started as 18 year olds, but any of these guys currently playing have really impressed, and most of the other guys drafted are some of the top prospects for their respective teams, personally within 10 years i could see this being a top 2-3 draft all time.
     
  2. It was highly touted even in like 2005.

    Certainly one of the most hyped drafts.
     
  3. Zaphod

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    Do elaborate.

    About 10 players in that whole class have a full NHL season under their belt, so it does seem a touch premature.
     
  4. Philadelphia Ducks

    Philadelphia Ducks Win it for Ed

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    Still way too early to tell seeing as more then half of the first round hasn't found the ice regularly in the NHL. But the talent levels are definitely there to be one of the better draft years out there. If they all pan out according to their projections then it probably will be a top 5 draft group.
     
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    This is true, from a Hawks POV anyway.

    4 of our top 6 prospects:

    Leddy (16th)
    Olsen (28th)
    Morin (45th)
    Kruger (149th)

    The other two being Kyle Beach ('08) and Kevin Hayes ('10)
     
  6. Pyke*

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    The 2008 draft was much better than the 2009 draft.
     
  7. HanSolo

    HanSolo Vegas Strong

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    Ranking among Ducks prospects/player/pick selected @ draft
    3 Palmieri 29
    2 Holland 15
    13 Clark 37
    9 Bobkov 76
    4 Vatanen 106

    Well, the Ducks are ranked 8th among all teams as far as prospect pipelines go, and 4 guys taken by them in this draft are in the top 10, 5 in the top 15 out of the list of 20. So I'd say we had a pretty good draft that year. Last year we got lucky in the first and second round, but 2009 saw us get more steals (Vatanen in the fourth round??)
     
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    I think so too
     
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    SLAPSHOT723 QU! Bobcats!

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    I think the forwards were best in the 2009, and the defense was best (and by best I mean ****ing incredible) in 2008.
     
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    I think 2010 and 2008 have been the strongest drafts since 2003 IMO

    2010 is going to look really good. You already have Hall, Skinner, Fowler who all played well in big minutes as 18 year olds. Seguin and Burmistrov have already played full seasons as well.

    The reason I like it is because of Granlund and Tarasenko. I think both these players are going to be stars.
     
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    2008>2009>2010 IMO.
     
  13. jessebelanger

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    lol..hmm..I wonder why that is :laugh:
     
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    man i hope Gardiner and Colborne work out well. Schenn, Gardiner, Colborne all 2008 1st round picks.
     
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    I don't see that at all. The 2009 draft at this point looks mediocre to me - certainly far weaker than 2008, arguably than 2006 and not much, if at all, better than 2010.
     
  16. Pyke*

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    +1. I agree there were some good players in 2009, but that doesn't make it a strong draft.

    2008 -
    1. Stamkos
    2. Doughty
    3. Bogosian
    4. Pietrangelo
    5. L. Schenn
    6. Filatov
    7. Colin Wilson
    8. Boedker
    9. Bailer
    10. Hodgson
    12. Myers
    14. Boychuk
    15. Karlsson
    19. Sbisa
    22. Eberle
    24. Tedenby
    26. Ennis
    27. Carlson
    31. Markstrom
    51. Stepan
    53. Hamonic

    v.

    2009-
    1. Tavares
    2. Hedman
    3. Duchene
    4. E. Kane
    5. B. Schenn
    6. OEL
    7. Kadri
    9. Cowen
    10. MPS
    14. Kulikov
    17. Rundblad
    19. Kreider
    20. Josefson
    24. Johanssoon
    33. O'Reilly
    46. Lehner

    Even being more generous for 2009 (since they have a year less), the list favours 2008 fairly obviously... especially since 2008 features players like Colborne, Gardiner, Weircioch, etc. that were not included as being still uncertain.
     
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    Avs had a nice haul in 09 as well

    Matt Duchene
    Ryan O'Reilly
    Stefan Elliott
    Tyson Barrie
     
  18. Pyke*

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    The Sens 09 Haul (Cowen (9th), Rundblad (17th), Silfverberg (39th), Lehner (46th)) is arguably better than their 08 Haul (Karlsson (15th), Weircioch (42nd), Zach Smith (79th))... but that doesn't change that 08 > 09.
     
  19. Reddawg

    Reddawg We're all mad here

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    And one of them was actually selected by Toronto! <grin>
     
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    At this point it looks to me like 2008>2006>2009>2007

    At this point not many players from 2009 have actual done anything at the NHL level. Only the top 4, MPS, Kulikov, Johansson, O'Reilly and Clifford have played a full NHL season.

    A guy like Josefson is one of the furthest ahead players not on that list and he has only played a sheltered fringe role on a bad team in the NHL and didn't produce much in the AHL or NHL last year. Even in the AHL, only Palmieri from the first round and Tatar from the second had strong years. At this point there isn't enough to go on in terms of North American professional hockey from this year to really judge how good it is.
     
  21. Pyke*

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    Lehner was AHL MVP at 19 and Cowen had a great year in the WHL followed by a superb Calder Cup run in the AHL. Rundblad was prospect of the year on HF because he did something no defenseman in the SEL has done at his age - put up 50+ points.

    I'm inclined to agree that 2009 has yet to prove themselves, but I'd rate all three of those players years over the ones you noted :)
     
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    2009 was a strong draft in terms of potential elite level players and potential NHLers. Tavares, Duchenne, Hedman, Kane, Schenn, OEL, Kadri, MPS, Kulikov all have top line talent to a certain extent. Toss in Erixon, Rundblad, Ellis, Despress, Moore, Josefeson, Cowen, Kassian, CO Roussel, Orlov, Morin, Blacker, Lehner, Elliot, Tatar, Lander, Silfverberg who all progressed to the level that was expected or higher and you have a draft that could develop a lot NHL regulars. It may not be the level of the 2003 draft but it has a lot of potential.
     
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    Don't forget Nino!:yo:
     
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    For Detroit 2010>2009
     
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    The Sabres had quite a haul in 2009

    Kassian - potential 20-40-60 power forward who is Milan Lucic, but can be better.

    Brayden Mcnabb - potential first pairing TWD, most likely a second pairing D-man due to his skating

    Marcus Foligno - potential third line player who puts up 35-40 points in a season, but a leader on the team.

    3/6 picks for the Sabres is quite good.
     

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