2009 draft - one of the all time best?

Jayevs

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i know its pretty early still as these guys will be entering only their 3rd season if they started as 18 year olds, but any of these guys currently playing have really impressed, and most of the other guys drafted are some of the top prospects for their respective teams, personally within 10 years i could see this being a top 2-3 draft all time.
 

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It was highly touted even in like 2005.

Certainly one of the most hyped drafts.
 

Zaphod

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Do elaborate.

About 10 players in that whole class have a full NHL season under their belt, so it does seem a touch premature.
 

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Still way too early to tell seeing as more then half of the first round hasn't found the ice regularly in the NHL. But the talent levels are definitely there to be one of the better draft years out there. If they all pan out according to their projections then it probably will be a top 5 draft group.
 

HockeySauce

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i know its pretty early still as these guys will be entering only their 3rd season if they started as 18 year olds, but any of these guys currently playing have really impressed, and most of the other guys drafted are some of the top prospects for their respective teams, personally within 10 years i could see this being a top 2-3 draft all time.

This is true, from a Hawks POV anyway.

4 of our top 6 prospects:

Leddy (16th)
Olsen (28th)
Morin (45th)
Kruger (149th)

The other two being Kyle Beach ('08) and Kevin Hayes ('10)
 

HanSolo

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Ranking among Ducks prospects/player/pick selected @ draft
3 Palmieri 29
2 Holland 15
13 Clark 37
9 Bobkov 76
4 Vatanen 106

Well, the Ducks are ranked 8th among all teams as far as prospect pipelines go, and 4 guys taken by them in this draft are in the top 10, 5 in the top 15 out of the list of 20. So I'd say we had a pretty good draft that year. Last year we got lucky in the first and second round, but 2009 saw us get more steals (Vatanen in the fourth round??)
 

McDeepika

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I think 2010 and 2008 have been the strongest drafts since 2003 IMO

2010 is going to look really good. You already have Hall, Skinner, Fowler who all played well in big minutes as 18 year olds. Seguin and Burmistrov have already played full seasons as well.

The reason I like it is because of Granlund and Tarasenko. I think both these players are going to be stars.
 

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I think 2010 and 2008 have been the strongest drafts since 2003 IMO

2010 is going to look really good. You already have Hall, Skinner, Fowler who all played well in big minutes as 18 year olds. Seguin and Burmistrov have already played full seasons as well.

The reason I like it is because of Granlund and Tarasenko. I think both these players are going to be stars.

2008>2009>2010 IMO.
 

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i know its pretty early still as these guys will be entering only their 3rd season if they started as 18 year olds, but any of these guys currently playing have really impressed, and most of the other guys drafted are some of the top prospects for their respective teams, personally within 10 years i could see this being a top 2-3 draft all time.

I don't see that at all. The 2009 draft at this point looks mediocre to me - certainly far weaker than 2008, arguably than 2006 and not much, if at all, better than 2010.
 

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I don't see that at all. The 2009 draft at this point looks mediocre to me - certainly far weaker than 2008, arguably than 2006 and not much, if at all, better than 2010.

+1. I agree there were some good players in 2009, but that doesn't make it a strong draft.

2008 -
1. Stamkos
2. Doughty
3. Bogosian
4. Pietrangelo
5. L. Schenn
6. Filatov
7. Colin Wilson
8. Boedker
9. Bailer
10. Hodgson
12. Myers
14. Boychuk
15. Karlsson
19. Sbisa
22. Eberle
24. Tedenby
26. Ennis
27. Carlson
31. Markstrom
51. Stepan
53. Hamonic

v.

2009-
1. Tavares
2. Hedman
3. Duchene
4. E. Kane
5. B. Schenn
6. OEL
7. Kadri
9. Cowen
10. MPS
14. Kulikov
17. Rundblad
19. Kreider
20. Josefson
24. Johanssoon
33. O'Reilly
46. Lehner

Even being more generous for 2009 (since they have a year less), the list favours 2008 fairly obviously... especially since 2008 features players like Colborne, Gardiner, Weircioch, etc. that were not included as being still uncertain.
 

PeterTheGreat

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This is true, from a Hawks POV anyway.

4 of our top 6 prospects:

Leddy (16th)
Olsen (28th)
Morin (45th)
Kruger (149th)

The other two being Kyle Beach ('08) and Kevin Hayes ('10)

Avs had a nice haul in 09 as well

Matt Duchene
Ryan O'Reilly
Stefan Elliott
Tyson Barrie
 

Pyke*

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Avs had a nice haul in 09 as well

Matt Duchene
Ryan O'Reilly
Stefan Elliott
Tyson Barrie

The Sens 09 Haul (Cowen (9th), Rundblad (17th), Silfverberg (39th), Lehner (46th)) is arguably better than their 08 Haul (Karlsson (15th), Weircioch (42nd), Zach Smith (79th))... but that doesn't change that 08 > 09.
 

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At this point it looks to me like 2008>2006>2009>2007

At this point not many players from 2009 have actual done anything at the NHL level. Only the top 4, MPS, Kulikov, Johansson, O'Reilly and Clifford have played a full NHL season.

A guy like Josefson is one of the furthest ahead players not on that list and he has only played a sheltered fringe role on a bad team in the NHL and didn't produce much in the AHL or NHL last year. Even in the AHL, only Palmieri from the first round and Tatar from the second had strong years. At this point there isn't enough to go on in terms of North American professional hockey from this year to really judge how good it is.
 

Pyke*

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At this point it looks to me like 2008>2006>2009>2007

At this point not many players from 2009 have actual done anything at the NHL level. Only the top 4, MPS, Kulikov, Johansson, O'Reilly and Clifford have played a full NHL season.

A guy like Josefson is one of the furthest ahead players not on that list and he has only played a sheltered fringe role on a bad team in the NHL and didn't produce much in the AHL or NHL last year. Even in the AHL, only Palmieri from the first round and Tatar from the second had strong years. At this point there isn't enough to go on in terms of North American professional hockey from this year to really judge how good it is.

Lehner was AHL MVP at 19 and Cowen had a great year in the WHL followed by a superb Calder Cup run in the AHL. Rundblad was prospect of the year on HF because he did something no defenseman in the SEL has done at his age - put up 50+ points.

I'm inclined to agree that 2009 has yet to prove themselves, but I'd rate all three of those players years over the ones you noted :)
 

theIceWookie

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At this point it looks to me like 2008>2006>2009>2007

At this point not many players from 2009 have actual done anything at the NHL level. Only the top 4, MPS, Kulikov, Johansson, O'Reilly and Clifford have played a full NHL season.

A guy like Josefson is one of the furthest ahead players not on that list and he has only played a sheltered fringe role on a bad team in the NHL and didn't produce much in the AHL or NHL last year. Even in the AHL, only Palmieri from the first round and Tatar from the second had strong years. At this point there isn't enough to go on in terms of North American professional hockey from this year to really judge how good it is.

2009 was a strong draft in terms of potential elite level players and potential NHLers. Tavares, Duchenne, Hedman, Kane, Schenn, OEL, Kadri, MPS, Kulikov all have top line talent to a certain extent. Toss in Erixon, Rundblad, Ellis, Despress, Moore, Josefeson, Cowen, Kassian, CO Roussel, Orlov, Morin, Blacker, Lehner, Elliot, Tatar, Lander, Silfverberg who all progressed to the level that was expected or higher and you have a draft that could develop a lot NHL regulars. It may not be the level of the 2003 draft but it has a lot of potential.
 

IslandersFan17

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I think 2010 and 2008 have been the strongest drafts since 2003 IMO

2010 is going to look really good. You already have Hall, Skinner, Fowler who all played well in big minutes as 18 year olds. Seguin and Burmistrov have already played full seasons as well.

The reason I like it is because of Granlund and Tarasenko. I think both these players are going to be stars.

Don't forget Nino!:yo:
 

CowbellConray

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The Sabres had quite a haul in 2009

Kassian - potential 20-40-60 power forward who is Milan Lucic, but can be better.

Brayden Mcnabb - potential first pairing TWD, most likely a second pairing D-man due to his skating

Marcus Foligno - potential third line player who puts up 35-40 points in a season, but a leader on the team.

3/6 picks for the Sabres is quite good.
 

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