2004 and 2016 1st and 2nd OA’s
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Huh? Ovechkin is objectively better than Malkin and Matthews is objectively better than Laine. Easy choice......
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Objectively? Care to show some proof of this objectivity?
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Morgs
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Malkin and Ovie are close enough in their careers that it's basically a wash, with a slight edge (imo) to Malkin. Matthews as of today is clearly better than Laine.
Went with 1st OA's.
Went with 1st OA's.
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Close.
I'm a big Ovi fan so I think OV8>Geno (not a large margin)
Laine and Matthews are equal to me as of now.
I'm a big Ovi fan so I think OV8>Geno (not a large margin)
Laine and Matthews are equal to me as of now.
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At their absolute peak yes it's basically a wash. But their careers aren't close at all, OV is way ahead.
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Morgs
#16 #34 #44 #88 #91
PPG:
Malkin - 1.18
Ovie - 1.12
Trophys:
Malkin - 3 Cups, Conn Smythe, Calder, 2x Art Ross, 1x Hart
Ovie - 1 Cup, Conn Smythe, Calder, Art Ross, 7x Rocket, 2x Hart
Other than the rockets, they're pretty much as close as they get. Sure Ovies done it longer, and has been more healthy. Their impact to their team though over the course of their career is pretty damn similar.
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Ovechkin--Malkin
Hart: 3--1
Finalist: 5--3
Top 10: 8--4
Lindsay: 3--1
Smythe: 1--1
Ross: 1--2
Top 10 pts: 8--4
PPG leader: 3--1
Top 10 PPG: 8--9
Rocket: 7--0
Top 10 goals: 11--3
GPG leader: 8--0
Top 10 GPG: 11--5
AST (1st+2nd): 10--3
Awards: 16--6
Morgs
#16 #34 #44 #88 #91
Ones been healthy his whole career, the other misses 10-20 games on average. When healthy they're almost directly comparable players with a slight edge to Malkin. If you're talking pure counting stats Ovies better.
I don't know why that's a bad opinion.
Whoops, thought I was voting for the year, not the pick. Accidentally voted Ovi-Matthews, but I'm switching to Malkin-Laine. And I have no issue being wrong with this pick
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Ones been healthy his whole career, the other misses 10-20 games on average. When healthy they're almost directly comparable players with a slight edge to Malkin. If you're talking pure counting stats Ovies better.
I don't know why that's a bad opinion.
The poll isn’t asking ‘when they’re healthy’ it’s asking ‘who would you rather take?’
Not considering health will lead to a Bad opinion. Those 10-20 games are games where Malkin has 0 impact on the performance of his team and stretches where he was not at 100% due to injury also hurt. If you don’t have a Crosby to back him up, that could easily be the difference between regularly missing and making the post season.
Ones been healthy his whole career, the other misses 10-20 games on average. When healthy they're almost directly comparable players with a slight edge to Malkin. If you're talking pure counting stats Ovies better.
I don't know why that's a bad opinion.
But the fact that Malkin is always missing so many games is what's working against him here. I'd easily take the guy who is consistently healthy and consistently dominant.
