GDT: #20: Lightning 6 at FLYERS 5 (OT), Saturday, Nov. 17 2018, 1:00 p.m. ET

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JXC

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The problem is that beet ****er and company have no clue how to utilize it.

Complete utter total bull****. The players on this team aren’t talented enough to win absent heart and hustle. When they play like a house afire, they succeed. When they lollygag, they lose.

To blame their lack of effort on coaching is laughable.
 

bennysflyers16

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SABres go back to back into two of then toughest rinks in NHL, 4 points.

We get them, rags, then Matthews potential return, this easily goes to 6 games with Rags being only game we have a chance.
 
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bennysflyers16

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Complete utter total bull****. The players on this team aren’t talented enough to win absent heart and hustle. When they play like a house afire, they succeed. When they lollygag, they lose.

To blame their lack of effort on coaching is laughable.

You have lost your mind. They only look great when down multiple goals and have to completely abandon the system.
 

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Complete utter total bull****. The players on this team aren’t talented enough to win absent heart and hustle. When they play like a house afire, they succeed. When they lollygag, they lose.

To blame their lack of effort on coaching is laughable.


You know the coach frowns upon emotional play, right? Both Hak and Berube did. If you want to see more of that then you'll need a new coach.
 
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Complete utter total bull****. The players on this team aren’t talented enough to win absent heart and hustle. When they play like a house afire, they succeed. When they lollygag, they lose.

To blame their lack of effort on coaching is laughable.
Don’t know what your watching but to say there is a lack of effort is just lazy analysis. There may be games where some aren’t playing their best but there is effort there all the time.

And to say there isn’t enough skill on this team is a joke.
 

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That's a random comment, but ok.

Might as well ignore the rest of the games then and demote the rookie. Only on pace for 41 points now.

Oskar had 8 points in the previous 7 games without meaningful PP time. He’s been mediocre the last 2 games, but ummmm let’s not lose context here. That line was killing it. Ebbs and flows. Ebbs and flows.
 

JXC

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Don’t know what your watching but to say there is a lack of effort is just lazy analysis. There may be games where some aren’t playing their best but there is effort there all the time.

And to say there isn’t enough skill on this team is a joke.
They outplayed NJ and TB this week and came away with one point, owing to a combination of having the lesser goaltender and not cashing in on the ample opportunities their play and system combined to generate.

As for some other losses this year, if you think lack of fire and effort don’t contribute well all I can say is “lazy analysis”.
 
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JXC

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Oskar had 8 points in the previous 7 games without meaningful PP time. He’s been mediocre the last 2 games, but ummmm let’s not lose context here. That line was killing it. Ebbs and flows. Ebbs and flows.
Lindblom has played well. Promising.
 

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Complete utter total bull****. The players on this team aren’t talented enough to win absent heart and hustle. When they play like a house afire, they succeed. When they lollygag, they lose.

To blame their lack of effort on coaching is laughable.

Four f***ing years of the same bull shit play with a high roster turnover. Who are the guys that have remained since Hakstol took over? Jake, Giroux, Couturier, Simmonds, and MacDonald. Thia cub employs the EXACT same system since year one and the results are STRIKINGLY similar. Bottom third PK, piss poor 5 vs 5 play and bottom third worst defensive play in the league. The new wrinkle is the league worst goaltending.

That is ALL coaching staff. If it's one or two seasons, then players can be faulted. This is season four. If this were anywhere else, the entire staff would have been let go.

Sadly, Hextall the GM doesn't even have anywhere near the stones that Hextall the player did. He's become.complicit in this fustercluck.
 

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The results are similar to what they were doing under Lavi and Berube.

I'm starting to think it's the players, and a function of styles and the changing NHL>

Giroux, Voracek, even Weal are "stop and survey" type players, Giroux and Weal hold the puck looking for a pass, Voracek holds the puck and skates with it hoping something will open up.

Couts, JVR and Simmonds simply aren't suited to an up tempo game.

What has changed is the 4th line can skate and forecheck, but they lack the puck skills to be an offensive force. But they create havoc now instead of sitting back on their heels.

The three up tempo players are Patrick, Lindblom and TK.
Giroux can play up tempo but it's not as natural for him, coming into the league when the game was slower and more deliberate.
Voracek can still skate, but he's so used to holding the puck it's also hard for him to adjust.

I don't think you need 9 guys flying up and down the ice, but in today's game you need more than the Flyers have.
So just getting a coach who wants to play more up tempo won't be enough, Flyers need more forwards who can skate and have the skills to make things happen on the fly.
 
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