Proposal: 2 red wings vets to the Stars

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  1. TSN Jdog

    TSN Jdog Registered User

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    Vanek + Nyquist for Honka + Hintz
     
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    One thing, both players from Ottawa are UFA's.
     
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    changed OP, accidentally double posted
     
  4. WhatWhat

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    Dallas can't afford to move a Dman with Carrick + John's on IR and Methot a ? Every other day.

    Also we would only be interested in Nyquist because Vanek does nothing for us
     
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    Not a fan of this swap. Would rather give up one of our "lesser" prospects + a draft pick for one of these guys (Nyquist).
     
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    See my Counter offer post above ^^. Also what are Hintz's strengths & weaknesses, never watched him.
     
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    Not interested in Vanek or Nyquist and certainly not for the guys asked for here. I wouldn’t gives Johns straight up for either, let alone add.
     
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    Realistically, if Honka doesn't project to be any better than Cholo/Hronek/McIsaac, there's not much point in Detroit doing this.

    Detroit's farther ahead hoping for a low 1st out of Nyquist and taking another swing at a Veleno/Berggren level prospect.
     
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    Still cant afford to move a D and still dont want both... This counter has the exact same problem as OP. Also wouldnt move Johns for both straight up
     
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    I understand, so sub Daley or Ericsson for Vanek.
     
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    Vanek has a NTC
     
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    We don’t want Daley back.

    We’re not gonna move Johns unless the deal knocks our socks off. Most of us are quite high on him and he plays a very unique role on our defense.

    This is all assuming he ever even plays again. He’s suffering from some post-concussion symptoms that seem rather serious. His health is obviously the most important thing.
     
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    Dont want either of those. Dont want Vanek. Could maybe use Nyquist but for way less than Johns
     
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    Neither Honka nor Johns are the type of defenseman that Detroit needs. Not worth wasting the chance to trade Nyquist @ 50% to a desperate team at the deadline.
     
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    Isn't Johns supposed to be good to very good defensively? Maybe that was when he 1st broke into the league, haven't really follow him though since.
     
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    Nyquist for a 1st or 2nd by itself will more than do.
     
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    With the above posters - would much prefer to get draft picks back for anyone the Wings would realistically trade than the kind of prospects those same players would likely return.
     
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    I doubt Vanek or Nyquist go for anything other than picks.
     
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    John's is a beauty. Perfect second pairing Dman. Big, physical, mobile and has a decent shot. Having some health problems as LT said above.

    But, I wouldnt trade him in this deal. I would however trade a 2nd and something for Nyquist
     
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    He is. He is our 2nd best RD and a top 4 Dman for us when healthy. A 26 year old 2nd pairing RD is the the price for a rental winger. If Dallas goes after Nyquist it will be for a prospect+pick and not for our 4th best Dman who is currently injured
     
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    I assume you mean wouldnt
     
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    Sharks would be interested in Nyquist at the TDL, if he was interested in waiving for a shot at the cup.
     
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    in return, you give the Red Wings permission to speak to EK for 1 hour (gives Kenny a first opportunity to kick the tires on landing him in free agency) + 2nd.
     
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    Nyquist is such an underrated player. Lol at a stars fan saying they dont want when he'd literally be their 4th best forward.
     
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