1st Rounders - We Haz Them!

[Southern_Canuck]

23 man roster - 13 first round picks:

1st – 2 – 1999 – Daniel Sedin
1st – 3 – 1999 – Henrik Sedin
1st – 3 – 2010 – Erik Gudbranson
1st – 5 – 2003 – Thomas Vanek
1st – 6 – 2007 – Sam Gagner
1st – 6 – 2014 – Jake Virtanen
1st – 8 – 2010 – Alexander Burmistrov
1st – 8 -2012 – Derrick Pouliot
1st – 9 – 2013 - Bo Horvat
1st – 11 – 2007 – Brandon Sutter
1st – 13 – 2011 - Sven Baertschi
1st – 20 – 2008 – Michael Del Zotto
1st – 23 – 2015 – Brock Boeser
2nd – 31 – 2008 – Jacob Markstrom
2nd – 33 – 2003 – Loui Eriksson
2nd – 45 – 2011 – Markus Granlund
3rd – 62 – 2009 – Anders Nilsson
3rd – 91 – 2004 – Alex Edler
5th – 147 – 2003 – Alex Biega
5th – 147 – 2012 – Ben Hutton
7th – 189 – 2006 – Derek Dorsett
Free Agent - 2010 – Chris Tanev
Free Agent – 2016 - Troy Stecher

Your 2017-18 23 player Vancouver Canucks Starting Roster includes 18 Top 100 Draft Selections...

Is this common? Seemed unusual to me - will have to have a look at a few other rosters...

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[Southern_Canuck]

OK - checked Calgary which may only have 8 First Rounders... but hey - they have 5 Mikes...!

1st – 4 – 2014 – Sam Bennett
1st – 5 – 1990 – Jaromir Jagr
1st – 6 – 2013 – Sean Monahan
1st – 6 – 2016 – Matthew Tkachuk
1st – 9 – 2011 – Dougie Hamilton
1st – 10 – 2006 – Michael Frolik
1st – 17 – 2013 – Curtis Lazar
1st -24 – 2007 – Mikael Backlund
2nd – 53 – 2008 – Travis Hamonic
2nd – 57 – 2002 – Matt Stajan
3rd – 69 – 2008 – Michael Stone
4th – 104 – 2011 – Johnny Gaudreau
4th – 105 – 2012 – Brett Kulak
4th – 114 – 2008 – TJ Brodie
5th – 129 – 2010 – Freddie Hamilton
5th – 133 – 2010 – Michael Ferland
5th – 134 – 2004 – Kris Versteeg
5th – 161 – 2001 – Mike Smith
7th – 190 – 2008 – Matt Bartkowski
7th – 214 – 2004 – Troy Brouwer
9th – 265 – 2003 – Tanner Glass
Free Agent – Mark Giordano
Free Agent – Eddie Lack

If they really wanted to troll Vancouver, they'd sign Nedved too.

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[CRDragon]

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Nashville Predators have 6 First Rounders... but also 7 Second Round Picks:

1st – 4 – 2010 – Ryan Johansen
1st – 6 – 2000 – Scott Hartnell
(on IR to start season 1st – 11 – 2009 – Ryan Ellis)
1st – 11 – 2012 – Filip Forsberg
1st – 11 – 2014 – Kevin Fiala
1st – 18 – 2010 – Austin Watson
2nd – 37 – 2012 – Pontus Aberg
2nd – 38 – 2008 – Roman Josi
2nd – 43 – 2007 – PK Subban
2nd – 47 – 2016 – Samuel Girard
2nd – 50 – 2012 – Colton Sissons
2nd – 51 – 2010 – Calle Jarnkrok
2nd – 52 – 2011 – Miikka Salomaki
3rd – 73 – 2007 – Yannick Weber
3rd – 84 – 2004 – Alexei Emelin
4th – 98 – 2009 – Craig Smith
4th – 99 – 2013 – Juuse Saros
4th – 102 – 2009 – Mattias Ekholm
4th – 112 – 2014 – Viktor Arvidsson
6th – 168 – 2010 – Anthony Bitetto
6th – 173 – 2007 – Nick Bonino
8th – 258 – 2004 – Pekka Rinne
Free Agent – Cody McLeod
Free Agent - Matt Irwin

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[DL44]

Wondering about Vegas and Col now...

 

[Hit the post]

23 man roster - 13 first round picks:

Your 2017-18 23 player Vancouver Canucks Starting Roster includes 18 Top 100 Draft Selections...

Is this common? Seemed unusual to me - will have to have a look at a few other rosters...

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2010-11 Canucks (opening day roster):

1st – 2 – 1999 – Daniel Sedin
1st – 3 – 1999 – Henrik Sedin
1st - 23 - 2003 - Ryan Kesler
1st - 7 - 1998 - Manny Malhotra
1st - 4 - 1999 - Roberto Luongo
1st - 12 - 2001 - Dan Hamhuis
1st - 11 - 2002 - Keith Ballard
1st - 5 - 2000 - Raffi Torres
1st - 10 - 2008 - Cody Hodsgon
1st - 18 - 2005 - Ryan Parent

10 first rounds picks.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Looked up Colorado - 12 First Round Picks and 20 Top 100 Picks... so we'd be similar to the Avalanche!

1st – 1 – 2006 – Erik Johnson
1st – 1 – 2012 – Nail Yakupov
1st – 1 – 2013 – Nathan McKinnon
1st – 2 – 2011 – Gabriel Landeskog
1st – 3 – 2009 – Matt Duchene
1st – 7 – 2008 – Colin Wilson
1st – 10 – 2015 – Mikko Rantanen
1st – 10 – 2016 – Tyson Jost
1st – 11 – 2006 – Jonathan Bernier
1st – 16 – 2008 – Joe Colborne
1st – 16 – 2013 – Nikita Zadorov
1st – 23 – 2006 – Semyon Varlamov
2nd – 32 – 2013 – Chris Bigras
2nd – 35 – 2013 – JT Compher
2nd – 41 – 2010 – Patrik Nemeth
2nd – 47 – 2004 – Blake Comeau
2nd – 47 – 2011 – Matt Nieto
2nd – 49 – 2004 – Carl Soderberg
3rd – 64 – 2009 – Tyson Barrie
3rd – 86 – 2013 – Sven Andrighetto
4th – 101 – 2015 – Andrei Mironov
5th – 150 – 2012 – Alex Kerfoot
6th – 152 – 2008 – Mark Barberio

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[Southern_Canuck]

Surprisingly, only 9 First Rounders on Edmonton - and 14 Top 100 Picks...

1st – 1 – 2011 – Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
1st – 1 – 2015 – Connor McDavid
1st – 3 -2014 – Leon Draisaitl
1st – 4 – 2011 – Adam Larsson
1st – 5 – 2011 – Ryan Strome
1st – 7 – 2013 – Darnell Nurse
1st – 13 – 2009 – Zack Kassian
1st – 19 – 2011 – Oscar Klefbom
1st – 22 – 2017 – Kailer Yamamoto
2nd – 50 – 2006 Milan Lucic
3rd – 63 – 2012 – Jujhar Khaira
3rd – 67 – 2005 – Kris Russell
3rd – 68 – 2006 – Eric Gryba
3rd – 71 – 2004 – Andrej Sekera
6th – 161 – 2007 – Patrick Maroon
6th – 164 – 2011 – Laurent Brossoit
6th – 175 – 2012 – Matt Benning
6th – 192 – 2001 – Jussi Jokinen
7th – 184 – 2011 – Iiro Pakarinen
Free Agent - Mark Letestu
Free Agent - Cam Talbot
Free Agent – Drake Caggiula
Free Agent - Yohann Auvitu

No Puljujarvi - and bu-bye to 1st Rounders Yakupov, Hall, Paajarvi-Svensson, Eberle, Gagner, Plante, Nash, Cogliano, Dubnyk, and Shremp...

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[clunk]

Jim Benning will be wondering how it's possible we aren't a playoff team.

 

[elitepete]

Our GM keeps wasting assets and money on players he liked when they were prospects, but suck now.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

at the end of the '01 season, the canucks had these guys as everyday players:

allen - 4 - 1998
berehowsky - 10 - 1990
bertuzzi - 23 - 1993
cassels - 17 - 1987
cloutier - 26 - 1994
jovanovski - 1 - 1994
lachance - 4 - 1991
naslund - 16 - 1991
ohlund - 13 - 1994
pederson - 13 - 1993
d sedin - 2 - 1999
h sedin - 3 - 1999

plus earlier in the year they had felix potvin, who was drafted 31st overall in 1990 and would be first rounder today, and mike brown (20, 1997) and josh holden (12, 1996) were prospects who got brief callups that year.

the '02 team had:

allen - 4 - 1998
berehowsky - 10 - 1990 -- traded midway through the year
bertuzzi - 23 - 1993
brown - 20 - 1997 -- not an everyday player
cassels - 17 - 1987
cloutier - 26 - 1994
jovanovski - 1 - 1994
lachance - 4 - 1991
linden - 2 - 1988
naslund - 16 - 1991
ohlund - 13 - 1994
pederson - 13 - 1993 -- traded midway
d sedin - 2 - 1999
h sedin - 3 - 1999
warriner - 4 - 1991

in '03:

allen - 4 - 1998
baumgartner - 10 - 1994 -- not an everyday player
bertuzzi - 23 - 1993
cloutier - 26 - 1994
jovanovski - 1 - 1994
linden - 2 - 1988
lindgren - 15 - 1993
may - 14 - 1990
naslund - 16 - 1991
ohlund - 13 - 1994
d sedin - 2 - 1999
h sedin - 3 - 1999
warriner - 4 - 1991 -- traded away

in '04:

allen - 4 - 1998
baumgartner - 10 - 1994 -- not an everyday player
bertuzzi - 23 - 1993
cloutier - 26 - 1994
jovanovski - 1 - 1994
kesler - 23 - 2003
linden - 2 - 1988
lindgren - 15 - 1993
may - 14 - 1990
naslund - 16 - 1991
ohlund - 13 - 1994
rucinsky - 20 - 1991
d sedin - 2 - 1999
h sedin - 3 - 1999
and nathan smith (23, 2000) played two games

 

[denkiteki]

Its not really surprising because most 1st round picks do make the NHL so they have to be on one of the 30 teams. If you assume say 25 1st round picks makes the NHL every draft and say they play at least 10 seasons (in the NHL), then there should be 250 first round picks divided by 31 teams. Using those guess numbers, that means each team should average 8. If the average is higher it just means a higher percentage makes the NHL (or they play longer).

 

[Nick Lang]

Its not really surprising because most 1st round picks do make the NHL so they have to be on one of the 30 teams. If you assume say 25 1st round picks makes the NHL every draft and say they play at least 10 seasons (in the NHL), then there should be 250 first round picks divided by 31 teams. Using those guess numbers, that means each team should average 8. If the average is higher it just means a higher percentage makes the NHL (or they play longer).

I think only around 50% of first rounders make the NHL as regulars.

 

[CanaFan]

Best in the league at something

 

[tyhee]

Its not really surprising because most 1st round picks do make the NHL so they have to be on one of the 30 teams. If you assume say 25 1st round picks makes the NHL every draft and say they play at least 10 seasons (in the NHL), then there should be 250 first round picks divided by 31 teams. Using those guess numbers, that means each team should average 8. If the average is higher it just means a higher percentage makes the NHL (or they play longer).

Perhaps the Canucks' number of former first rounders being higher than average has something to do with Benning targeting them in trade and free agency, giving value to players he liked when he scouted them several years ago. He has acquired numerous players who were very highly rated when drafted but who haven't lived up to the expectations from that time.

Gudbranson, Vanek, Gagner, Burmistov, Pouliot, Sutter, Baertschi and del Zotto from the 1st rounders listed and Markstrom, Eriksson and Granlund from the 2nd's are players targeted by the current management and acquired either by trade or in free agency.

 

[denkiteki]

I think only around 50% of first rounders make the NHL as regulars.

Not sure how true that is anymore.

Take a look at recent drafts...

2011
9/30 players have played less than 100 games

2010
8/30

2009
5/30
or 8/30 less than 200

2008
8/30
11/30 (less than 200, 12 less than 300)

Of course there are some that might leave for Europe in less than 10 years but then there are others like the Sedins who will play at least 17 seasons (and there are a few players like them every draft).

Again my numbers are just random guesses. Also remember for the purpose of this discussion, its 1st round pick on roster, doesn't mean they will play regularly. I.e. someone like Pouliot has been on Pens roster for 3 seasons but he hasn't exactly played that many games and not exactly "regulars" so to speak. Some of those first round picks are going to be "extras" like Pouliot will (at least at the start of the season).

 

[Peter10]

I think only around 50% of first rounders make the NHL as regulars.

That is incorrect, its already a bad draft year when a third doesnt make it to at least 200-300 games, even if you go way back to the 80s when teams didnt scout they way they do nowadays.

 

[Breakers]

Nashville Predators have 6 First Rounders... but also 7 Second Round Picks:

1st – 4 – 2010 – Ryan Johansen
1st – 6 – 2000 – Scott Hartnell
(on IR to start season 1st – 11 – 2009 – Ryan Ellis)
1st – 11 – 2012 – Filip Forsberg
1st – 11 – 2014 – Kevin Fiala
1st – 18 – 2010 – Austin Watson
2nd – 37 – 2012 – Pontus Aberg
2nd – 38 – 2008 – Roman Josi
2nd – 43 – 2007 – PK Subban
2nd – 47 – 2016 – Samuel Girard
2nd – 50 – 2012 – Colton Sissons
2nd – 51 – 2010 – Calle Jarnkrok
2nd – 52 – 2011 – Miikka Salomaki
3rd – 73 – 2007 – Yannick Weber
3rd – 84 – 2004 – Alexei Emelin
4th – 98 – 2009 – Craig Smith
4th – 99 – 2013 – Juuse Saros
4th – 102 – 2009 – Mattias Ekholm
4th – 112 – 2014 – Viktor Arvidsson
6th – 168 – 2010 – Anthony Bitetto
6th – 173 – 2007 – Nick Bonino
8th – 258 – 2004 – Pekka Rinne
Free Agent – Cody McLeod
Free Agent - Matt Irwin

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"Wait you can find good players in the 2nd round?"

- Jim Benning