1917/18 – First NHL-season – A deeper look at the players & incorrect facts

Robert Gordon Orr

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I took a deeper look at those who played in the inaugural 1917/18 NHL season.
Out of the 45 players, more than 40% are Hall of Famers.

To my surprise I see that there are numerous of incorrect personal facts both on the Hockey Hall of Fame and official NHL site (as well as the English Wikipedia for that matter).

Anyone working for the HHOF or NHL reading this? If so, can you please see to it that these mistakes are corrected once and for all (See separate note column below).

Name1917/18PosBornDiedOccupationParentsGrandparentsHeritage
John "Jack" James Adams*TorCJune 14,1894, Fort William, ONMay 1, 1968, Detroit, MI, USAElevator
Weightman
CanadaCanada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
James "Art" Arthur BrooksTorGKFeb.4,1889, Guelph, ONJan.1,1962, Toronto, ONBookkeeper
Accountant
CanadaCanada England
Ireland
Canada
England
Ireland
Spain
Harold "Harry" Hugh Cameron*TorDFFeb.6,1890, Pembroke, ONOct.20, 1953, Vancouver, BCClerkCanadaCanada Scotland
Ireland
Canada
Scotland
Ireland
John "Jack" Joseph CoughlinTorRWJune 21,1892, Douro, ONJune 21, 1969, Peterborough, ONMachinistCanadaCanada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Samuel "Rusty" Russell Crawford*Tor
Ott
LWNov.7,1885, South Mountain, ONDec.19,1971, Prince Albert, SKFarmerCanada
Ireland
IrelandCanada
Ireland
Charles "Corb" Corbett DennenayTorCJan.25,1894, Osnabruck, ONJan.16, 1963, Toronto, ONLabourerCanadaCanadaCanada
Ireland
Samuel "Sammy" James Joseph HébertTorGKMar.31, 1893, Ottawa, ONJuly 23, 1965, Ottawa, ONPiano tunerCanadaCanadaCanada
England
Harry "Hap" George Holmes*TorGKFeb.21, 1888, Aurora, ONJune 27, 1941, Fort Lauderdale, FL, USAConstructorCanadaEngland
Scotland
Canada
England
Scotland
John "Jack" Joseph MarksTor
Mtl W.
RW
LW
Feb.8, 1880, Belleville, ONAug.19, 1945, Toronto, ONInspectorCanada
England
England
Ireland
Canada
England
Ireland
Henry "Harry" Arthur MeekingTorLWJan.10, 1894, Barrie, ONDec. 13, 1971, Toronto, ONBank clerkCanadaEngland
Scotland
Canada
England
Scotland
Harold "Harry" MummeryTorDFAug.25, 1889, Chicago, Ill, USADec.9, 1945, Brandon, MBLocomotive
Engineer
Canada
England
EnglandCanada
England
Edward "Reg" Reginald Noble*TorCJune 23, 1896, Collingwood, ONJan.19, 1962, Alliston, ONManagerCanadaCanada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Kenneth "Ken" Fenwick RandallTorRWDec.14, 1887, Kingston, ONJune 14, 1947, Toronto, ONPlumberCanada
England
England
Ireland
Canada
England
Ireland
Alfred "Alf" SkinnerTorRWJan.26, 1894, Toronto, ONApr.23, 1961, Toronto, ONMachinistCanadaCanadaCanada
England
Stephen "Clint" Clinton Benedict*OttGKSep.26, 1892, Ottawa, ONNov.12, 1976, Ottawa, ONStenographerCanada
England
Canada
England
Canada
England
USA
Ireland
John "Buck" George Boucher*OttDFAug.17, 1895, Ottawa, ONOct.17, 1960, Ottawa, ONPrinterCanadaCanada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Morley Callendar BruceOttDFMar.7, 1894, North Gower, ONNov.25, 1959, Ottawa, ONFire alarm
operator
CanadaCanadaCanada
Scotland
Ireland
England
John "Jack" Proctor Darragh*OttRWDec.4, 1890, Ottawa, ONJune 28, 1924, Ottawa, ONBookkeeper
Accountant
IrelandIrelandIreland
Cyril "Cy" Joseph Dennenay*OttLWDec.23, 1891, Farran's Point, ONSep.10, 1970, Ottawa, ONClerkCanadaCanadaCanada
Ireland
Edward "Eddie" George GerardOttLW
DF
Feb.22, 1890, Ottawa, ONAug.7, 1937, Ottawa, ONCivil servant
Printer
ScotlandScotlandScotland
Henry "Harry" Macarius Hyland*Ott
Mtl W.
RWJan.2, 1889, Montreal, QCAug.8, 1969, Montreal, QCPay masterCanadaIrelandCanada
Ireland
Edwin "Eddie" James LowreyOttCAug.13, 1891, Manotick, ONNov.27, 1973, Ann Arbour, MI, USAContractorCanada Canada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Horace Jefferson MerrillOttDFNov.30, 1884, Toronto, ONDec.24, 1958, Ottawa, ONPrintingCanada
USA
Canada
USA
Canada
USA
Julius "Frank" Francis Nighbor (Neubauer)*OttCJan.26, 1893, Pembroke, ONApril 13, 1966, Pembroke, ONInsurance
agent
Germany
Poland
Germany
Poland
Germany
Poland
David "Dave" Alexander RitchieOtt
Mtl.W
DFOct.1, 1891, Montreal, QCMarch 6, 1973, Montreal, QCClerkCanada
Scotland
ScotlandCanada
Scotland
Samuel "Hamby" Hamilton ShoreOttDF
LW
Feb.12, 1886, Ottawa, ONOct.13, 1918, Ottawa, ONCivil servantCanadaIreland Canada
Ireland
William "Billy" Edward BellMtl
Mtl W.
CJune 11, 1891, Lachine, QCJune 3, 1952, Pointe-Claire, QCEngineerCanadaCanada
Scotland
Canada
Scotland
Louis Dièudonné BerlinguetteMtlLWMay 26, 1887, Sainte-Angélique, QCJune 1, 1959, Rouyn-Noranda, QCSuperintendentCanadaCanadaCanada
Bertram "Bert" Orion CorbeauMtlDFFeb.9, 1894, Penetanguishene, ONSep.21, 1942, Georgian Bay, ONPlant
superintendent
Canada
Sweden
Canada
Sweden
Canada
Sweden
Wilfred "Billy" Arthur CoutuMtlDFMar.1, 1892, Bonfield, ONFeb.25, 1977, Sault-Ste Marie, ONCranemanCanadaCanadaCanada
England
France
Germany
Joseph "Joe" Henry Hall*MtlDFMay 3, 1881, Milwich, Staffordshire, ENGApril 5, 1919, Seattle, WA, USACigarette makerEnglandEnglandEngland
Edward "Newsy" Cyril Lalonde*MtlCOct.31, 1887, Cornwall, ONNov.21, 1970, Montreal, QCLinotype
machine operator
CanadaCanada Canada
USA
France
Jean-Baptiste "Jack" Laviolette*MtlDF
LW
RW
July 17, 1879, Belleville, ONJan.10, 1960, Montreal, QCTelegrapherCanadaCanadaCanada
Maurice "Joe" Joseph Cletus Malone*MtlC
LW
Feb.28, 1890, Quebec City (Sillery), QCMay 15, 1969, Montreal, QCDay labourerCanadaCanada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Patrick "Jack" John McDonaldMtl
Mtl W.
LWFeb.28, 1887, Quebec City, QCJan.24, 1958, Montreal, QCMachinistCanadaCanada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Evariste PayerMtlCJuly 21, 1888, Rockland, ONSep.1, 1963, Hull, QCDay labourerCanadaCanada Canada
Joseph "Didier" George Didier Pitre*MtlRWSep.1, 1883, Valleyfield, QCJuly 29, 1934, Sault-Ste Marie, MI, USATruck driverCanadaCanadaCanada
France
Switzerland
Joseph "George" Georges Gonzague Vézina*MtlGKJan.21, 1887, Chicoutimi, QCMar.27, 1926, Chicoutimi, QCFarmerCanadaCanadaCanada
France
Pierce "Gerry" George GeranMtl W.CAug.3, 1896, Holyoke, MA, USASep.8, 1981, Brooklyn, NY, USACommecial
business
Canada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Canada
Ireland
Scotland
England
USA
Leslie "Bert" Bertrand LindsayMtl W.GKJuly 23, 1881, West Gerafraxa, ONNov.11, 1960, Sarnia, ONButcher
Motor mech.
CanadaCanada
Ireland
Scotland
Canada
Ireland
Scotland
USA
Germany
George Edward O'GradyMtl W.DFJune 8, 1891, Montreal, QCJuly 25, 1974, Vancouver, BCClerkCanadaEngland
Ireland
Canada
England
Ireland
Arthur "Art" Howey Ross*Mtl W.DFJan.13, 1886, Naughton, ONAug.5, 1964, Medford, MA, USADealerCanadaCanada
Scotland
Ireland
Canada
Scotland
Ireland
France
Raymond "Raymie" Nelson SkiltonMtl W.DFSep.26, 1889, Cambridge, MA, USAJuly 1, 1961, Newtonville, MA, USAShipping clerk
Wool dealer
USA USAUSA
Scotland
Philip "Phil" Collins StevensMtl W.CFeb.15, 1893, Saint-Lambert, QCApril 8, 1968, Kelowna, BCChauffeur
Barber
CanadaCanadaCanada
England
USA
Kenworthy "Ken" James ThompsonMtl W.LW
C
May 29, 1881, Oakengates, ENGNov.25, 1933, Sarasota, FL, USAFactory manager
(Chemist)
EnglandEnglandEngland
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* Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame





Incorrect information on the following players

NameNote
John "Jack" James Adams*HHOF & NHL have him incorrectly born 1895 (Wikipedia is correct though)
Samuel "Rusty" Russell Crawford*HHOF & NHL & Wikipedia have him incorrectly born in Cardinal, ON
Charles "Corb" Corbett DennenayNHL & Wikipedia have him incorrectly born i Cornwall, ON.
Also correct spelling of last name should be Dennenay
Samuel "Sammy" James Joseph HébertNHL have him incorrectly born in 1894 (Wikipedia is correct though)
Harry "Hap" George Holmes*NHL have him incorrecly born in 1892 (Wikipedia is correct though)
John Jack" Joseph MarksNote: NHL ave him incorrectly born on June 11, 1885 and incorrectly in Brantford, ON. Wikipedia have him incorrectly born in 1882 and also born in Brantford, ON
Henry "Harry" Arthur MeekingNHL & Wikipedia have him incorrectly born on November 4 and in Berlin, ON
Kenneth "Ken" Fenwick RandallNHL & Wikipedia have him incorrectly born in 1888
Alfred "Alf" SkinnerNHL have him incorrectly born in 1896 and Wikipedia have him incorrectly passing away on April 11
Stephen "Clint" Clinton Benedict*HHOF have him incorrectly born on September 25, 1894 (Wikipedia is correct though), but on the other hand, Wikipedia have his name incorrectly as Clinton Stevenson
John "Buck" George Boucher*Wikipedia & NHL have him incorrectly born on August 19 (HHOF is correct though). Wikipedia have his name spelled wrong (should be George not Georges)
Cyril "Cy" Joseph Dennenay*Correct spelling of last name was Dennenay, even though Denneny have been the common spelling. Birth registers and signatures by both Corb and Cy had the spelling as Dennenay. HHOF have incorrect death date (September 9)
Edward "Eddie" George Gerard*HHOF have incorrect date of death as December 7
Henry "Harry" Macarius Hyland*Wikipedia have his first name incorrectly as Harold
Horace Jefferson MerrillNHL have him incorrectly born in 1885
Julius "Frank" Francis Nighbor (Neubauer)*Birth name was Neubauer
David "Dave" Alexander RitchieNHL have him incorrectly born on January 12, 1892
William "Billy" Edward BellNHL & Wikipedia have him incorrectly born on June 10
Bertram "Bert" Orion CorbeauNHL & Wikipedia have his middle name incorrectly as Orian
Wilfred "Billy" Arthur CoutuNHL & Wikipedia have him incorrectly born in North Bay, ON
Joseph "Joe" Henry Hall*HHOF & NHL & Wikipedia only have the county of Staffordshire as his birthplace
Edward "Newsy" Cyril Lalonde*Wikipedia have his name incorrectly spelled as Édouard Cyrille. On his baptism record it looks like he was born on October 30
Jean-Baptiste "Jack" Laviolette*HHOF & NHL have him incorrectly born on July 27 (Wikipedia is correct though)
Evariste PayerNHL have him incorrectly born on December 12, 1887 (Wikipedia is correct though)
Joseph "Didier" George Didier Pitre*Wikipedia have him incorrectly passing away in Ontario (instead of Michigan). Last name on gravestone is Petrie for some reason.
His death certificate also had Petrie as his last name. But baptism and marriage records had Pitre as we know him
Joseph "George" Georges Gonzague Vézina*HHOF do not have an exact birthdate for him and have the wrong death date (March 26 – He passed away at 01:20 on March 27). Wikipedia incorrectly states that his father was an immigrant from France, which he was not
Arthur "Art" Howey Ross*Wikipedia have him incorrectly born in 1885 (HHOF & NHL is correct though)
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Ok, that's it...
 
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Robert Gordon Orr

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Was the parish part of the French diocese though? This is the key point.


Well, he was baptized at St.Colomban in Cornwall (Predominantly Irish I believe) and was married at St.Agnès in Montreal, an Irish Catholic church (His wife had ties to Scotland and Ireland).
 

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Charles"Corb" Corbett Dennenay

You corrected the spelling to be the exact same?
 

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Looking through the list, most mistakes are wrong birth dates and locations. Pretty straithfoward. Plus a few misspellings and misunderstandings. Nothing too complicated either. If we removed all of those, we're left with the following inaccuracies:

NameNote
Charles "Corb" Corbett DennenayCorrect spelling of last name should be Dennenay
Cyril "Cy" Joseph Dennenay*Correct spelling of last name was Dennenay, even though Denneny have been the common spelling. Birth registers and signatures by both Corb and Cy had the spelling as Dennenay. HHOF have incorrect death date (September 9)
Julius "Frank" Francis Nighbor (Neubauer)*Birth name was Neubauer
Edward "Newsy" Cyril Lalonde*Wikipedia have his name incorrectly spelled as Édouard Cyrille.
Joseph "Didier" George Didier Pitre*Last name on gravestone is Petrie for some reason.
His death certificate also had Petrie as his last name. But baptism and marriage records had Pitre as we know him
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The case of the Denenn(a)y brothers seems rather simple. A minor spelling mistake where a letter that didn't carry much weight in the pronunciation was dropped in colloquial language. A common occurrence. Still, clearly a mistake if even Corb & Cy kept using the original spelling.

Neubauer/Nighbor is a bit more curious to me. Birth name means name in the birth certificate, right? Now it's not unheard of that in those days foreign names were changed to something more familiar when people immigrated to Canada or the USA. But if the birth certificate still said "Neubauer" (which BTW doesn't strike me as a name English-speakers would particularly struggle with in the first place), then when and why did it change? Which family name did Nighbor's children carry?

Finally, the last two cases (Lalonde and Pitre) seem like typical instances one encounters in a bilingual country. Personally I would be a bit weary to label any such deviation as a "mistake". Regardless of what the official documents say: some fluidity should be expected. The case of Pitre (French) in the marriage records changing to Petrie (English) in the death certificate is actually a very nice example of this.
 
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The instances you describe are very common late 19th century, early 20th century in east end Montreal where due to a lack of English Catholic schools and churches the French schools and churches accommodated the Irish Catholics yet allowed the English versions of names etc.

Birth name, means name at birth at times provided to the hospital. Formality of a birth certificate followed later, sometimes months, so additions or changes happened. Place of birth. Some have the the home city, some the hospital city.
 

Robert Gordon Orr

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Looking through the list, most mistakes are wrong birth dates and locations. Pretty straithfoward. Plus a few misspellings and misunderstandings. Nothing too complicated either. If we removed all of those, we're left with the following inaccuracies:



The case of the Denenn(a)y brothers seems rather simple. A minor spelling mistake where a letter that didn't carry much weight in the pronunciation was dropped in colloquial language. A common occurrence. Still, clearly a mistake if even Corb & Cy kept using the original spelling.

Interestingly enough it seems that when Cy wrote autographs, he spelled his name as "Denneny", but when signing official documents (i.e. when he got married or when relatives died), he signed it with "Dennenay".

Also. The gravestone of Cy have the spelling as Denneny, while his brother Corb have Dennenay.

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Cy Dennen(a)y's gravestone


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Corb Dennenay's gravestone




Neubauer/Nighbor is a bit more curious to me. Birth name means name in the birth certificate, right? Now it's not unheard of that in those days foreign names were changed to something more familiar when people immigrated to Canada or the USA. But if the birth certificate still said "Neubauer" (which BTW doesn't strike me as a name English-speakers would particularly struggle with in the first place), then when and why did it change? Which family name did Nighbor's children carry?

Actually, both his birth and baptism records have the spelling as Neibauer, although the documents I've seen on his father had his last name spelled Neubauer. But it seems that the spelling Nighbor was adopted rather early on.



Finally, the last two cases (Lalonde and Pitre) seem like typical instances one encounters in a bilingual country. Personally I would be a bit weary to label any such deviation as a "mistake". Regardless of what the official documents say: some fluidity should be expected. The case of Pitre (French) in the marriage records changing to Petrie (English) in the death certificate is actually a very nice example of this.

Yes, I agree, however Lalonde was clearly baptized as Edward and it should be acknowledged.


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Didier Pitre's gravestone
 

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Signing autographs is a different matter. Aurele Joliat has two versions with or without the last e.

First post you refer to baptism record for Newsy Lalonde. Not the same as the Baptism Certificate given to the parents and signed by the god-parents. Which is your source document?
 

Robert Gordon Orr

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Signing autographs is a different matter. Aurele Joliat has two versions with or without the last e.

First post you refer to baptism record for Newsy Lalonde. Not the same as the Baptism Certificate given to the parents and signed by the god-parents. Which is your source document?

The church/Baptism record.
 

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Regarding Vezina, I was the one who added his father was a French immigrant. That came from the Jack Falla book cited, though even then I felt it was suspicious. If you have something else that disputes it I'll change it, but that would need a new citation.
 

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Interestingly enough it seems that when Cy wrote autographs, he spelled his name as "Denneny", but when signing official documents (i.e. when he got married or when relatives died), he signed it with "Dennenay".

Also. The gravestone of Cy have the spelling as Denneny, while his brother Corb have Dennenay.

179399318_1494962543.jpg

Cy Dennen(a)y's gravestone


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Corb Dennenay's gravestone






Actually, both his birth and baptism records have the spelling as Neibauer, although the documents I've seen on his father had his last name spelled Neubauer. But it seems that the spelling Nighbor was adopted rather early on.





Yes, I agree, however Lalonde was clearly baptized as Edward and it should be acknowledged.


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Didier Pitre's gravestone

Gravestones having the wrong or contradicting info is not that uncommon. And not only for names/spellings but for birth/death dates too of course. I've met this issue on several occasions. Sometimes there's not even the correct body (or no body at all) in the grave.
 

Robert Gordon Orr

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Regarding Vezina, I was the one who added his father was a French immigrant. That came from the Jack Falla book cited, though even then I felt it was suspicious. If you have something else that disputes it I'll change it, but that would need a new citation.


I have the original documentation both for George Vézina's father and grandfather, both born in the Québec province. The French lineage from his paternal side dates back to the mid 1600s when they left France for Canada.
 

Robert Gordon Orr

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Gravestones having the wrong or contradicting info is not that uncommon. And not only for names/spellings but for birth/death dates too of course. I've met this issue on several occasions. Sometimes there's not even the correct body (or no body at all) in the grave.

True, I've encountered this as well on many occasions. Wrong years, and misspelled names.
I always try to rely on the original documentation if possible.
 

kaiser matias

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I have the original documentation both for George Vézina's father and grandfather, both born in the Québec province. The French lineage from his paternal side dates back to the mid 1600s when they left France for Canada.

Interesting, do you have copies you could send me?
 

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