Prospect Info: #191, Otto Kivenmaki

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    After having a 1PPG for Assat's U20 team in the Finnish youth league, Otto was selected 191st overall in the 2018 NHL Entry draft. This season (as most people predicted), Otto has made his debut for Assat's senior team.

    After 5 games with just 1 point, he is sent down to the U20 team. He is small (172 cm, 5 feet 8 inches) but he is a great playmaker. Looking forward to see how he progresses.
     
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    I thought there was an old thread about him, but didn't find anything. :eek:
     
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    What's the deal with him getting sent down? I know the Assat Liiga squad is really weak - but do we think he will get called back up? If the team is struggling that bad, is it better for him to stay with the junior squad? I don't know much about the Finnish hockey leagues.

    Selfishly I was hoping he would get some significant ice time in Liiga which would increase his chances of making the WJC team
     
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    I don't care how tall he is . there were plenty great 5'8" players
     
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    I looked everywhere, but I could not find anything. Otto deserves a thread however, I like this dude a lot, seems like a long term project.
     
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    Quick, name ten!
     
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    Dionne, St.Louis, Fleury, Kariya, Gaudreau, Krug, Atkinson, Gionta, Verbeek, Ted Lindsay, Henri Richard, Yvan Cournoyer
     
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    7th Rounder playing pro right after getting drafted is pretty cool. Even if its 5 games. Seems he needs more seasoning but they gave him a hard look - he'll get back onto the pro circuit by Christmas granted he plays well in J20.
     
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    You can add probably 2 best ever Russians Makarov, kharlamov
     
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    Oh come on Matt! There are only 4 guys on your list that are 5'8" and I wouldn't call any of them great.
     
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    I'll give you Dionne, St. Louis, Fleury, Lindsay, Richard, and Cournoyer.

    Gaudreau, Kariya, Krug, and Verbeek are great but taller than 5'8". Especially Kariya at 5'11".

    Atkinson and Gionta are not what I would call great.
     
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    Could be a brainfart on my part but, Kasparaitis and Rafalski were also pretty I think. From what I read, Gretzky was almost always the little guy playing against older players and always did great. Some guys find ways.
     
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    Kivenmäki has been listed at 175cm/66kg recently so about 5'9/145. I think it was 5'8/137 prior to the draft.

    His dad was 5'8/168, FWIW.
     
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    Nothing special here. Tim Berni is a 2018 6th rounder and a regular for the NLA champion...he already was during the playoffs and when drafted. And he's a defender, not a forward. As a drafted player you better play pro hockey draft +1 if you stay in Europe. European junior leagues are bs...especially if we're not talking about Russia or Sweden. Waste of time.
     

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