I think you guys are selling Vaakanainen short here. It's understandable, most offensively capable defensemen run around with their pants on fire at his age. But, as some have pointed out, Vaak plays like 10 year vet, and that applies to defense as well as offense. He doesn't overdo it, but when there is a right moment he shows he is quite capable of it. In that sense he is closer to guys like Keith and Reilly than he is to Carlo or Brodin. That's not to say he will end up a Roman Josi, but I would not put any ceiling at this point. He absolutely has all the tools, he just might put it all together.