18/19 MGMT thread VIII

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[Motte and Bailey]

So we're tied for a playoff spot as of right now in mid January and we have a relatively easy schedule ahead of us for the rest of the regular season basically. If this team does make the playoffs, how would it effect your view of the management team? What if they barely miss?

 

[4Twenty]

Tied on points having played 3 more games is nothing special.

Getting in or just missing is more of a sign about the lack of quality teams in the league than something special from this management group.

This team is still on pace for less points than they had in the Tortorella year where heads rolled.

 

[Peter10]

So we're tied for a playoff spot as of right now in mid January and we have a relatively easy schedule ahead of us for the rest of the regular season basically. If this team does make the playoffs, how would it effect your view of the management team? What if they barely miss?

Still incompetent idiots who do their best to destroy the franchise

 

[MS]

Mike Milbury built a team that made the playoffs 3 times with him as GM. He’s still a complete moron.

 

[Ryp37]

Mike Milbury built a team that made the playoffs 3 times with him as GM. He’s still a complete moron.

Milbury was also capable of building a blueline unlike ole Jimbo

 

[Hit the post]

Mike Milbury built a team that made the playoffs 3 times with him as GM. He’s still a complete moron.

Had to deal with a wacky owner like Wang as well.

Even Aquaman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wang.

 

[xtra]

So we're tied for a playoff spot as of right now in mid January and we have a relatively easy schedule ahead of us for the rest of the regular season basically. If this team does make the playoffs, how would it effect your view of the management team? What if they barely miss?

I see this team as best as the same as the avalanche team that snuck into the 8 spot before bottoming out the following year again cause the team was crap. If they do it again next year and show marked improvement then I might change my opinion,

Them making the playoffs doesn’t change my opinion that benning will never be able to build a Stanley cup contender, as my goal for the team is a Stanley cup contender/champion; they have never once said that they want a stanley cup contender only a playoff contender. Those are 2 very different goals.

 

[PG Canuck]

So we're tied for a playoff spot as of right now in mid January and we have a relatively easy schedule ahead of us for the rest of the regular season basically. If this team does make the playoffs, how would it effect your view of the management team? What if they barely miss?

I would view the team as Cup contenders and we don't need anymore pieces. Granlund scoring a meaningful goal every 20 games is what wins you Cups.

 

[Ryp37]

How did Leaf fans view Dave Nonis when they made the playoffs

 

[TruGr1t]

I remain surprised how much of the media and fan base here are willing to turn a blind eye to the crisis that the Canucks currently have in the pro scouting department. It is monumentally bad.

Regardless of how you feel about Pettersson and Boeser (warm and fuzzy, probably) it's readily apparent that the current management team completely lacks the ability to assess talent after players turn roughly 17 years old. They don't trade often and when they do it's bad. Contracts under this regime have been a travesty with the go-to strategy obviously being "overpay for everything."

Even the successes are marginal given the price paid and the relative impact on the roster. The best you can basically hope for from the current management group is that their pro-level acquisitions have no net impact on the on-ice success of the team.

Why is this permitted, and in some cases supported? It is mind boggling.

 

[y2kcanucks]

So we're tied for a playoff spot as of right now in mid January and we have a relatively easy schedule ahead of us for the rest of the regular season basically. If this team does make the playoffs, how would it effect your view of the management team? What if they barely miss?

Doesn't change my view at all. The team's analytics are still piss poor. This is still a very bad team that has been propped up and carried by a superstar rookie. If anything, it puts more urgency on the need to fire Benning and Weisbrod and bring in intelligent management so we can capitalize on what we have with Pettersson and bring someone in who can build a good team around him. Instead, we're stuck with an idiot who grossly overpays for 4th liners, and can't find any quality defensemen to save his life.

 

[Fire Benning]

It’s amazing how low the bar is that being a .500 team and being 21st in a league is considered a huge accomplishment.

They’re only in the hunt right now because the western conference playoff picture is historically mediocre, the last few years the cutoff has been around 95 points, the final wild card team is currently on pace for 86. If the Canucks were playing .500 hockey last season they’d be on track to miss the playoffs by 13 points.

This team has a ways to go before it’s a lock for the playoffs every year or a perennial cup contender, squeeking into the playoffs in a weak year means nothing when half the league makes it.

 

[timw33]

It’s amazing how low the bar is that being a .500 team and being 21st in a league is considered a huge accomplishment.

They’re only in the hunt right now because the western conference playoff picture is historically mediocre, the last few years the cutoff has been around 95 points, the final wild card team is currently on pace for 86. If the Canucks were playing .500 hockey last season they’d be on track to miss the playoffs by 13 points.

This team has a ways to go before it’s a lock for the playoffs every year or a perennial cup contender, squeeking into the playoffs in a weak year means nothing when half the league makes it.

Yep. And even missing it (along with like 4 other teams) by 5-8 points this management will see it as validation for the moves they've made, which is a nightmare.

 

[y2kcanucks]

A tweet (later deleted) by Dan Murphy this morning suggested the Canucks are looking to make a splash with Benning entering the final year of his contract next season.

I told you so. There is no rebuild.

 

[rypper]

A tweet (later deleted) by Dan Murphy this morning suggested the Canucks are looking to make a splash with Benning entering the final year of his contract next season.

I told you so. There is no rebuild.

Nothing changes.

 

[xtra]

They are gonna sign bobrovski to a stupid contract, I’m calling it right now.

 

[Fire Benning]

Sacrificing assets to stay in the playoff hunt like NJ did last year only to be first round fodder for a contender or miss the playoffs entirely would be horrendous.

The problem is if they become active on the trade market, add pieces and end up squeaking into the playoffs, ownership/management could feel vindicated and think that an even bigger splash in the offseason which ends up coming back to bite them.

 

[Ori]

So we're tied for a playoff spot as of right now in mid January and we have a relatively easy schedule ahead of us for the rest of the regular season basically. If this team does make the playoffs, how would it effect your view of the management team? What if they barely miss?

Are we buyers or sellers at TDL in March 2019 what is the GM plan?

 

[Askel]

A tweet (later deleted) by Dan Murphy this morning suggested the Canucks are looking to make a splash with Benning entering the final year of his contract next season.

I told you so. There is no rebuild.

Thats scary as f***

 

[Ori]

I was certain that we were rebuilding for sure - I had Vancouver in the unknown category though.
Hopefully we can move contracts like Loui, I know he has NMC, but sweet talk him into it. Sutter 2019-2020 NTC can be moved, Del Zotto, why is he here? He can be moved before UFA in 2019-20.

I mention players with a relative high cap hit with a low impact on game performance - so there are room for a rebuild or a big name UFA signing like Panarin.

 

[timw33]

Although I prefer the trend of acquiring picks—albeit late ones—for players, I think it is absolutely hilarious that we acquired Luke Schenn. He is such a Vancouver pro scouting player.

 

[F A N]

Although I prefer the trend of acquiring picks—albeit late ones—for players, I think it is absolutely hilarious that we acquired Luke Schenn. He is such a Vancouver pro scouting player.

Vancouver did make some pro scouting changes over the past 2 seasons and why is Schenn "such a Vancouver pro scouting player?"

 

[timw33]

Vancouver did make some pro scouting changes over the past 2 seasons and why is Schenn "such a Vancouver pro scouting player?"

Because he's a high draft pedigree with a large frame and perceived toughness. He's just who Erik Gudbranson will be in 3 years.

 

[PG Canuck]

Looking forward to Schenn’s contract extension