15 vs 04 vs 03 vs 79 drafts

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which draft

  1. 15

    32.0%
  2. 04

    1.3%
  3. 03

    52.0%
  4. 79

    14.7%
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  1. Mitch nylander

    Mitch nylander One of the biggest fans from a bipolar fanbase

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    2015

    Notable Forwards

    Connor Mcdavid, Jack Eichel, Matthew Barzal, Mitch Marner, Mikko Rantanen, Sebastien Aho, Brock Boeser, Travis Konecny, Kyle Connor, Jake Debrusk, Anthony Beauvillier, Timo Meier, Dylan Strome, Pavel Zacha, Christian Fischer, Joel Eriksson Ek, Jack Roslovic, Anthony Cirelli, Dennis Malgin ..........

    Notable Defenders

    Ivan Provorov, Zach Werenski, Noah Hanifin, Thomas Chabot, Vince Dunn, Markus Nuutivaara, Travis Dermott, Brandon Carlo, Brandon Guhle, Noah Juulsen, Sami Niku.....

    Notable Goaltenders

    Ilya Samsonov, Adin Hill, Samuel Montembeault, Felix Sandstrom, Mackenzie Blackwood.....

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    2004

    Forwards

    Alex Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, Blake Wheeler, David Krejci, Alexander Radulov, Andrew Ladd, Johan Franzen, Travis Zajac, Brandon Dubinsky, Ryan Callahan, Mikhail Grabovski, Kris Versteeg, Drew Stafford, Dave Bolland, Blake Comeau, Troy Brouwer, Daniel Winnik, David Booth, Jannik Hansen .....

    Defence

    Mike Green, Mark Streit, Alexandre Edler, Alex Goligoski, Andrej Sekera, Andrej Meszaros, Chris Campoli, Ladislav Smid, Roman Polak, Nicholas Grossman, Alexei Emelin, Matt Hunwick ......

    Goalies

    Pekka Rinne, Cory Schneider, Devan Dubnyk, Al Montoya, Thomas Greiss, Anton Khudobin, Karri Ramo...
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    2003

    Forwards

    Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Patrice Bergeron, Eric Staal, Joe Pavelski, Zach Parise, Jeff Carter, Thomas Vanek, Ryan Kesler, Dustin Brown, David Backes, Mike Richards, Loui Eriksson, Lee Stempniak, Nathan Horton, Milan Michalek, Patrick Eaves, Matt Moulson, Clarke Mcarthur, Andrei Kostitsyn....

    Defence

    Brent Burns, Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, Dustin Byfuglien, Dion Phaneuf, Brent Seabrook, Tobias Enström, Braydon Coburn, Matt Carle, Kevin Klein, Kyle Quincey, Marc Methot, Jan Hejda.....

    Goalies

    M-A Fleury, Corey Crawford, Jaroslav Halak, Brian Elliott, Jimmy Howard, Andy Chiodo, Mike Brodeur..

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    1979

    Forwards

    Mark Messier, Mike Gartner, Michel Goulet, Glenn Anderson, Dale Hunter, Brian Propp, Rick Vaive, Anton Stastny, John Ogrodnick, Thomas Steen, Mats Näslund, Neal Broten, Guy Carbonneau, Dave Christian, Mike Foligno, Brent Ashton, Mike Krushelnyski, Laurie Boschman, Keith Crowder, Dick Graham....

    Defence

    Ray Bourque, Rob Ramage, Kevin Lowe, Paul Reinhart, Doug Crossman, Brad Mccrimon, Mike Ramsey, Chris Hartsburg, Jay Wells, Lindy Ruff, Mike Hardy, Tomas Johnsson, Keith Brown..

    Goalies

    Pelle Lindbergh, Rick Wamsley, Jacques Clouthier, Rollie Melanson, Pat Riggin, Marco Barron....
     
  2. missionAvs

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    My order is 15 > 03 > 04=79. Could be convinced to 03 being 1st though since 15 is still pretty unproven compared to the others.
     
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    03 really lacks a headliner like McJesus, Ovi or Bourque/Messier, but was the deeper of these drafts by a good amount. Still gets my vote.

    I voted for 2015 in the last poll, but I can’t pull the trigger on it here until we see some more development. I think 2015 is better than 2004, but it’s unclear beyond that. 2004 isn’t that deep and doesn’t have an impressive blue line.

    1979 has a great headliner both up front and at D. Not so much in net. Love that 1979 center group!
     
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    '04 is way out of place here. '90 or '08 would have been better options.
     
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    Critical91 Matthews, roll a Constitution saving throw.

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    Struggled with 03 and 15. Based only on speculation, I think 15 can surpass is. 79 would wrap up the top 3. 04 has nice headliners but the depth comparatively is atrocious.
     
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    04 does not belong here. Went 03 for now but 15 could become 1 in 3-4 years.
     
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    Czarchuk Go Flames Go!

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    I said it during the draft year, but 2015 will be the draft to remember. Not even just for McDavid, but those first few rounds were all basically first round picks. It was a phenomenal draft to behold.
     
  8. Mitch nylander

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    Just extra info.

    79 had 16 80 pt+ scorers (Messier, Gartner, Bourque, Goulet, Anderson, Stastny, Propp, Broten, Steen, Ogrodnick, Vaive, Christian, Foligno, Naslund, Krushelnyski, Crowder)
     
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    04 was an above average draft. Not in consideration with the other 3.
     
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    Take out Ovechkin and Malkin and 2004 looks weak. 2003 is still the standard when it comes to depth but 2015 looks super strong as well and with better high end. 2003 for now, 2015 possibly in the future.
     
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    03 (by a hair) > 79 > 15 >>> 04
     
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    Reallllllyyy can't compare 80s scoring with post-lockout scoring.

    '03, until '15 has more time to compare. For goodness sake, ANA got Perry and Getzlaf in the same draft. NSH got Weber and Suter, and to a lesser extent Klein. That was one half of their defense for several years.
     
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    2003 probably, it's so deep
    Also, not sure why you included Chiodo and Brodeur as "notable goalies", with a combined 15 games played.
     
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    2003 has great depth and when many of these players were in their prime the draft was looking pretty solid but now that we can see several of these players trailed of significantly at or around 30.

    1979 has the the players that 2003 doesn’t. Hall of Famers with significant longevity.

    Not sure how many of the 2003 players really belong in the HHoF. Who are they? At some point they will get in even if they don’t deserve it. Bergeron probably should be in the HHoF but Carbs is not so I wouldn’t bet my house on it. Corey Perry will probably get in on the Hart alone and if he gets in, Getzlaf will too. Fleury might get in on team success but on the other hand it’s tough to get in as a goaltender. Barrasso should get in before him and maybe even Cujo/Vernon/Osgood. Shea Weber might get in based on a decade of consistency and maybe being the national team’s #1 for a while. I think all of these players are really stretching it but it wouldn’t surprise me if they get in.

    In other words;

    Perry, Getzlaf, Weber feels ”meh”.
    Bergeron, Fleury requires others to get in too, imo.
     
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    While I agree that it's difficult to compare different eras, I think it's interesting that the 2015 and 2004 drafts each currently have three 80 point scorers (McDavid, Rantanen, Barzal and Ovechkin, Malkin, Wheeler).
     
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    79 has 04's high end talent is close to 03's depth.
     
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    15' isn't close to 03', stop it
     
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    Give 2015 a few more years and they’ll beat out 03.
     
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    03 and not particularly close at the moment.
     
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    I agree.. Different Eras Different Scoring Ratios. But Teams did real well in all of those drafts.

    79

    Edmonton got -) Marc Messier, Kevin Lowe, and Glenn Anderson
    Boston got -) Ray Bourque, Brad Mccrimmon, Mike Krushelnyski, Keith Crowder, Larry Melnyk
    Quebec got -) Michel Goulet, Anton Stastny, Dale Hunter, Lee Norwood, Pierre Lacroix
    Philly got -) Pelle Lindbergh, Brian Propp, Lindsey Carson, Thomas Eriksson, Blake Wesley



    03

    Ducks got -) Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Shane O'Brien, Drew Miller
    NSH got -) Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, Kevin Klein and Alexander Sulzer
    Chicago got -) Corey Crawford, Dustin Byfuglien, Brent Seabrook, Lasse Kuokkanen
    Philly got -) Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Colin Fraser, Alexandre Picard and Ryan Potulny
    San Jose got -) Joe Pavelski, Milan Michalek, Matt Carle, Steve Bernier

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    15 looks promising for a couple teams.

    Winnipeg -) Kyle Connor, Jack Roslovic, Sami Niku, Mason Appleton,
    NYI -) Matthew Barzal, Anthony Beauvillier,
    Carolina - ) Sebastien Aho, Noah HAnifin, Nicholas Roy,
    Columbus -) Zach Werenski, Markus Nuutivaara, Gabriel Carlsson, Vladislav Gavrikov
    Leafs -) Mitchell Marner, Travis Dermott, Jeremy Bracco, Dmytro Timashov

    Plus Boston who missed on picks may still get 4-7 nhlers -) Jake Debrusk, Brandon Carlo, Zachary Shynshyn, Jakub Zboril, Jakub Forsbacka Karlsson, Daniel Vladar, Jeremy Lauzon...
    Ottawa may get 5 nhlers -) Thomas Chabot, Colin White, Christian Jaros, Christian Wolanin, Filip Chlapik, Gabriel Gagne
     

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