NHL COVID player testing updates- JUL 27th Update. No new cases recorded. Total still 45

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

The curve has been flattened. It’s not getting more flat. Time to get back to normal!

The Canadian curve has been flattened (for now, at least). The US curve? Absolutely not. Wave two is crazy down there.

 

[Number8]

You are asking a lot of questions but providing zero answer. So here is your chance, go ahead and tell us what are the probabilities of a player dying. Show us your reasoning and comprehension skills, which from your position grants you the right to judge other's. Wondering who is the ignorant and arrogant one between the two of us.

You are assuming that because players are young and obviously fit, there are no issues. Of course that doesn't include coaches, managers, trainers, support staff, etc. Regardless, let's stick to players for the moment. I've picked a list of high profile mostly recent players...... can you tell me what they all have in common?

Jay Bouwmeester
Max Domi
Phil Kessel
Olli Maatta
Brett Pesce
Dan Girardi
Jason Blake
Bobby Clarke (not recent but one of most recognisable players in NHL history)
Mario Lemieux (ditto Bobby Clarke)
Rich Peverly
Oskar Lindblom
Brian Boyle
Saku Koivu
Jiri Fischler
John Cullen

This is with minimal effort and doesn't even delve into players who aren't so recognisable/i.e. get press for why they may belong on this list.

By the way, even for those players who are not current players, they were put on this list because of factors that were well known WHEN they were players (i.e. young, fit, and apparently invincible).

 

[tarheelhockey]

Is this real life. Daily cases going up all of the time. Records being broken. Fauci estimating 100k new cases a day soon. This is wave two son, which is way past the point of the curve being flat. I know you want sports and life to be normal and ''gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme' but how about we stick to the facts instead of made up bullcrap.

The Canadian curve has been flattened (for now, at least). The US curve? Absolutely not. Wave two is crazy down there.

It's been over a week since that individual has posted anything other than claims that health experts are frauds, public health data is a hoax, criticism of protesters, or just plain right-wing politics.

Temper your expectations for a well-reasoned reply.

 

[cvrle1]

I think league is giving least amount of info that they have to provide. Its like coaches saying he has lower body injury, but it could be like 50 different things. It would make complete sense to include this info as well, but NHL is always working in secrecy when they can.

 

[Golden_Jet]

So looks like over the last few weeks we average about 1-2 positive tests per day.

 

[missingchicklet]

The Canadian curve has been flattened (for now, at least). The US curve? Absolutely not. Wave two is crazy down there.

And it's actually not wave 2. Basically it's still wave 1, just different states getting hit hard at different times in the first wave. Given how ineptly the US is handling this first wave, and prolonging it, I am not so sure if it will be easy to tell when the first wave ends and the predicted second wave begins late this year or early next year. As an American, it is embarrassing to see how poorly this has been handled relative to other countries. The numbers don't lie. The NHL is smart to play exclusively in Canada. There is next to no chance of being able to pull things off successfully over a couple month period in the US at this point.

 

[Flameshomer]

You are assuming that because players are young and obviously fit, there are no issues. Of course that doesn't include coaches, managers, trainers, support staff, etc. Regardless, let's stick to players for the moment. I've picked a list of high profile mostly recent players...... can you tell me what they all have in common?

Jay Bouwmeester
Max Domi
Phil Kessel
Olli Maatta
Brett Pesce
Dan Girardi
Jason Blake
Bobby Clarke (not recent but one of most recognisable players in NHL history)
Mario Lemieux (ditto Bobby Clarke)
Rich Peverly
Oskar Lindblom
Brian Boyle
Saku Koivu
Jiri Fischler
John Cullen

This is with minimal effort and doesn't even delve into players who aren't so recognisable/i.e. get press for why they may belong on this list.

By the way, even for those players who are not current players, they were put on this list because of factors that were well known WHEN they were players (i.e. young, fit, and apparently invincible).

RIP Alexei Cherepanov!

 

[Intense]

You are assuming that because players are young and obviously fit, there are no issues. Of course that doesn't include coaches, managers, trainers, support staff, etc. Regardless, let's stick to players for the moment. I've picked a list of high profile mostly recent players...... can you tell me what they all have in common?

Jay Bouwmeester
Max Domi
Phil Kessel
Olli Maatta
Brett Pesce
Dan Girardi
Jason Blake
Bobby Clarke (not recent but one of most recognisable players in NHL history)
Mario Lemieux (ditto Bobby Clarke)
Rich Peverly
Oskar Lindblom
Brian Boyle
Saku Koivu
Jiri Fischler
John Cullen

This is with minimal effort and doesn't even delve into players who aren't so recognisable/i.e. get press for why they may belong on this list.

By the way, even for those players who are not current players, they were put on this list because of factors that were well known WHEN they were players (i.e. young, fit, and apparently invincible).

Why don't they just waive the obligation for these players to play and let the ones without prior medical conditions play without all this fuss ?

Common sense 101, no ?

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Once or if hockey starts back up they'll have to reveal the names because they'll not be allowed to play and would be treated like an injury.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Once or if hockey starts back up they'll have to reveal the names because they'll not be allowed to play and would be treated like an injury.

That's incorrect.

 

[Flukeshot]

Need to get these guys out of the US as soon as possible. Just rent entire towns in Northern Alberta and Ontario and sit them there for 2 weeks.

 

[benjiv1]

The pre-bubble positive tests are not surprising.

The goal will be to get as many Covid free players into Toronto and Edmonton ASAP, so they can get into the expanded bubble.

The only way we the season get cancelled prior to the hub city bubble, is a mass outbreak of like 50 players all at once.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I mean, this is why you test, and this is why you set up the bubble cities. You test the players as they come into camps. The sick ones are quarantined, the healthy ones go to the bubble cities. Again, test them when they enter the bubble cities, quarantine the sick, and isolate the healthy from sources of infection.

Once everyone gets into the bubbles, it should take about 2 weeks to get healthy for those who are ill, and the rest should be relatively safe. We need to accelerate getting them into the bubbles, not delay it.

 

[Golden_Jet]

That's incorrect.

But if any player tests positive, and all of sudden is absent from the series, people will just surmise what happened, regardless if your not supposed to tell anyone.

 

[Garbage Goal]

The Canadian curve has been flattened (for now, at least). The US curve? Absolutely not. Wave two is crazy down there.

This is still wave one. It just hit the northeast before the rest of the country and the northeast took it more seriously than the rest of the country.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

That's incorrect.

Well either way we're going to find out...

Undisclosed injuries say so, unless it's truly an undisclosed injury.

 

[Paul4587]

But if any player tests positive, and all of sudden is absent from the series, people will just surmise what happened, regardless if your not supposed to tell anyone.

Yeah it’s going to be pretty obvious for the most part.

 

[Number8]

Why don't they just waive the obligation for these players to play and let the ones without prior medical conditions play without all this fuss ?

Common sense 101, no ?

I gave you a list of some true studs with conditions like asthma, heart issues, cancer, etc. The point was to simply to show you that your assertion that NHL players are a group young, fit athletes who by definition are at almost no risk for paying a steep price for CV-19 exposure is incorrect.

I don’t know who you support, but let’s say you’re a Blues fan — a team who just reported several players and a coach testing positive, before things have even started. You happy with, let’s say Tarasenko, Binnington, Petriangelo, and Coach Berube put in quarantine for first of elimination round? What’s the fuss?

That doesn’t even count Bowmeester who’d be insane to risk exposure even if he was cleared to play.

NHL trying to force things. If one of the type of caliber of players on my list got badly sick or God forbid died, that’d be one hell of a PR campaign for the League.

 

[Intense]

I gave you a list of some true studs with conditions like asthma, heart issues, cancer, etc. The point was to simply to show you that your assertion that NHL players are a group young, fit athletes who by definition are at almost no risk for paying a steep price for CV-19 exposure is incorrect.

I don’t know who you support, but let’s say you’re a Blues fan — a team who just reported several players and a coach testing positive, before things have even started. You happy with, let’s say Tarasenko, Binnington, Petriangelo, and Coach Berube put in quarantine for first of elimination round? What’s the fuss?

That doesn’t even count Bowmeester who’d be insane to risk exposure even if he was cleared to play.

NHL trying to force things. If one of the type of caliber of players on my list got badly sick or God forbid died, that’d be one hell of a PR campaign for the League.

What's funny ?

Like I said, players with medical conditions putting them at risk would have the option to sit without penalty. Though luck if your team is full of these players, you can't please everybody. That is still better than penalizing 99% of the players that are ok to play and without conditions.

 

[dennis90]

So why are the numbers in the US skyrocketing?
Guess the ridiculous marches and riots are to blame, but are there other factors as well?

 

[Peasy]

So why are the numbers in the US skyrocketing?
Guess the ridiculous marches and riots are to blame, but are there other factors as well?

Or maybe its because of the fact that the majority of states decided to continue on with life as normal. Having bars, clubs, restaurants open etc. Trump holding rallys, people literally having concerts.

 

[Number8]

So why are the numbers in the US skyrocketing?
Guess the ridiculous marches and riots are to blame, but are there other factors as well?

Largely because a not insignificant number of Americans seem to think being asked to wear a mask (to protect others, not themselves) is too much. A violation of their freedoms. An abuse of the Constitution. A sign of weakness. And other similar brain addled reasons.

I love this country, but these days too many fools seem to think they are afforded a birthright of unlimited "freedoms" that excuse them being dumb shits. If the Constitution is so far reaching, how come these idiots aren't allowed to drive down the highway at 150 MPH?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

So why are the numbers in the US skyrocketing?
Guess the ridiculous marches and riots are to blame, but are there other factors as well?

Its cause alot of people have started living life normally and dont care anymore.

 

[GAGLine]

So why are the numbers in the US skyrocketing?
Guess the ridiculous marches and riots are to blame, but are there other factors as well?

The problem is that the response is dictated at a state, rather than federal, level. Each state gets to make its own rules regarding what is required and what is not, and people are free to travel between states without restriction. I don't imagine there is a lot of interstate traveling going on, but it only takes one person to spread the virus.

 

[M88K]

Largely because a not insignificant number of Americans seem to think being asked to wear a mask (to protect others, not themselves) is too much. A violation of their freedoms. An abuse of the Constitution. A sign of weakness. And other similar brain addled reasons.

I love this country, but these days too many fools seem to think they are afforded a birthright of unlimited "freedoms" that excuse them being dumb shits. If the Constitution is so far reaching, how come these idiots aren't allowed to drive down the highway at 150 MPH?

You absolutely are allowed to drive 150 down the highway just don't get caught... But seriously at that speed unless youre a suspect in a violent crime (armed robbery, murder ). The police won't even chase you