130pt Kucherov = 2nd best season since lockout?

[illpucks]

Kucherov is at 94 in 59. If we prorate his season over 82 games he has 130 points. He is not expected to get injured.

Would that be the best season since the lockout after Ovechkin 07-08? Kucherov can't touch that season because he is only at 27 goals and won't sniff 50 let alone 65.

But where would 82-37-93-130 rank in best seasons after '05 lockout?

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[Mr Tadakichi]

He is not expected to get injured.

I mean, I hope nobody is expecting him to.

 

[Nico Hischier]

It’s debatable.. the year Stamkos scored 60 goals was pretty good too

 

[illpucks]

I mean, I hope nobody is expecting him to.

I mean because people prorate Crosby's 41 game season and 22 game seasons. So I'm prorating Kucherov's season but he hasn't been injured.

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

I mean because people prorate Crosby's 41 game season and 22 game seasons. So I'm prorating Kucherov's season but he hasn't been injured.

Alright, just sounded weird tbh.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

2 more points tonight including the game winner.

 

[illpucks]

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2 more points tonight including the game winner.

I added those in at time of op

 

[ItWasJustified]

Do you mean the 2nd best season from a player individually? In my opinion you can't look at that sort of stuff objectively unless you also have what team that player plays for in mind. Crosby's 120 points in 06/07 playing with scrubs is pretty good too.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

The biggest shame in recent memory is Crosby's year+ long concussion issues when he was at his absolute peak in terms of performance, in a lower-scoring year than we're getting this year.

Crosby's accolades both individually and collectively are more than great enough anyway but that was gonna be, what, a 130-point season when the Art Ross winner that year finished with 104? It was gonna be a total annihilation.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

It’s debatable.. the year Stamkos scored 60 goals was pretty good too

I probably wouldn't even put that as a Top 10 season post-lockout. 60 goals is impressive, but he finished 12 pts behind the scoring leader that year and it's not like we're talking about Bergeron on the other side of the puck.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

The biggest shame in recent memory is Crosby's year+ long concussion issues when he was at his absolute peak in terms of performance, in a lower-scoring year than we're getting this year.

Crosby's accolades both individually and collectively are more than great enough anyway but that was gonna be, what, a 130-point season when the Art Ross winner that year finished with 104? It was gonna be a total annihilation.

Maybe.

 

[powerbomb]

An important context will be how the rest of the league finishes in scoring. If Kucherov hits 130, sure that's impressive, but if two or three other players crack 120 in the same season (a mark that's been reached only three times total since 2005) then that takes some shine off of the accomplishment when evaluating all-time seasons since it's in a year where scoring was up significantly league wide.

 

[SlickHands]

It’s debatable.. the year Stamkos scored 60 goals was pretty good too

Stamkos had some great years. But when you consider the force that Tampa is, and just the level of impact he's having.. I'd rate this season above Stamkos' if he gets to 130.

 

[SlickHands]

An important context will be how the rest of the league finishes in scoring. If Kucherov hits 130, sure that's impressive, but if two or three other players crack 120 in the same season (a mark that's been reached only three times total since 2005) then that takes some shine off of the accomplishment when evaluating all-time seasons since it's in a year where scoring was up significantly league wide.

We might also have a different appreciation a few seasons from now. Is this a new norm or something we might not see again?

 

[Volodya Krutov]

He is not expected to get injured

For the love of god, please rephrase this sentence.

 

[Super Hans]

I'd put '15-16 Kane above him. 106p, (17p better than 2nd). Panarin had 77p, Toews had 58p for 2nd and 3rd on CHI.

At this pace, Kucherov will finish 8p ahead of Kane and 11p ahead of McDavid. Point will have 106p and Stamkos 98p.

 

[Master P]

For the love of god, please rephrase this sentence.

I thought that was the point of this thread. An attempt at a jinx.

 

[Hint1k]

I probably wouldn't even put that as a Top 10 season post-lockout. 60 goals is impressive, but he finished 12 pts behind the scoring leader that year and it's not like we're talking about Bergeron on the other side of the puck.

NHL point system where 1 goal = 1 primary assists = 1 secondary assists is wrong, outdated and makes no sense.

 

[Video Nasty]

The biggest shame in recent memory is Crosby's year+ long concussion issues when he was at his absolute peak in terms of performance, in a lower-scoring year than we're getting this year.

Crosby's accolades both individually and collectively are more than great enough anyway but that was gonna be, what, a 130-point season when the Art Ross winner that year finished with 104? It was gonna be a total annihilation.

Maybe, maybe not. He had 97 points in his first 58 games of the ‘06-‘07 season and only managed another 23 points in his final 21 games played.

 

[powerbomb]

We might also have a different appreciation a few seasons from now. Is this a new norm or something we might not see again?

Exactly. What's the rush to anoint greatness? The passage of time is a surprisingly important factor in evaluating the position of anything in an "all-time" or "of an era" context.

 

[TheMule93]

No, separation from competition matters more than raw point totals

Kane in 16 is the most impressive

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Ovechkin 07-08 09-10 08-09
Crosby 06-07-13-14-
Malkin 08-09 11-12
Etc

 

[JoVel]

No, separation from competition matters more than raw point totals

Kane in 16 is the most impressive

I'd rather adjust them to the league scoring rate. Just because there are other good players doesn't mean Kucherov's season isn't impressive.

 

[Conrad McBenis]

Kane is better

 

[GlitchMarner]

I'd rather adjust them to the league scoring rate. Just because there are other good players doesn't mean Kucherov's season isn't impressive.

If he scores 130 points, his output should adjust to ~130 points (the scoring rate is just above 6.00 goals per game), which I believe would be the highest adjusted output since 2001.