CupsOverCash
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Its like the PP and PK did a reversal. Effort needs to be better all around. Im kinda stumped in why this team cant score right now.
I'm not going to worry about it because it's two games. But if Coop has in fact lost the room he has to go end of story. I have no way of proving that he has so I won't be calling for his job. But I know well enough that once it has happened there is no going back. I don't want to see Cooper fired. But it's black and white and doesn't matter how I feel. Lose the room lose your job.I think the issue is that he probably doesn't say anything.
All through the second half of last season we heard guys say how the effort wasn't good enough and they know it needs to be better. Then come the playoffs. They get bye the Devils on talent alone. They dominate the Bruins and I'm thinking, "THIS is the team I've been waiting for" and then they completely disappear against the Caps. Then we hear all offseason how it taught them a lesson and how they're so ready to get back on the ice. Then we're only in game 2 of the season and we're already hearing the same ****. They didn't learn anything. The Caps were inferior talent wise to TB and completely steamrolled them with their hustle and up and down the lineup contributions. Their stars came to play, ours didn't. I don't care if it was 7 games. TB was barely holding on that entire series.
I get that this is game 2 of 82. I get that the preseason ultimately means nothing. That's not lost on me. But when you factor in how bad they were down the stretch last year, how they disappeared in the playoffs, how lackluster and uninterested they looked in the preseason (IT'S JUST THE PRESEASON, GUYS. IT'S NOT GONNA CARRY OVER) and how uninterested they've looked through the two games so far..it's really difficult to believe there isn't something systematically wrong with this team. I think Cooper has probably lost the room. Intensity is completely absent from the top 6 players on this team. I look at the Leafs and I'm like..."Holy ****". That team is intense. Everyone brings it. Then I look at TB being soft on the puck, lazy on the PP. It's so incredibly frustrating.
The leafs are hungry and right now we are not at all it’s frustrating to watch for sureI think the issue is that he probably doesn't say anything.
All through the second half of last season we heard guys say how the effort wasn't good enough and they know it needs to be better. Then come the playoffs. They get bye the Devils on talent alone. They dominate the Bruins and I'm thinking, "THIS is the team I've been waiting for" and then they completely disappear against the Caps. Then we hear all offseason how it taught them a lesson and how they're so ready to get back on the ice. Then we're only in game 2 of the season and we're already hearing the same ****. They didn't learn anything. The Caps were inferior talent wise to TB and completely steamrolled them with their hustle and up and down the lineup contributions. Their stars came to play, ours didn't. I don't care if it was 7 games. TB was barely holding on that entire series.
I get that this is game 2 of 82. I get that the preseason ultimately means nothing. That's not lost on me. But when you factor in how bad they were down the stretch last year, how they disappeared in the playoffs, how lackluster and uninterested they looked in the preseason (IT'S JUST THE PRESEASON, GUYS. IT'S NOT GONNA CARRY OVER) and how uninterested they've looked through the two games so far..it's really difficult to believe there isn't something systematically wrong with this team. I think Cooper has probably lost the room. Intensity is completely absent from the top 6 players on this team. I look at the Leafs and I'm like..."Holy ****". That team is intense. Everyone brings it. Then I look at TB being soft on the puck, lazy on the PP. It's so incredibly frustrating.
I'm not going to worry about it because it's two games. But if Coop has in fact lost the room he has to go end of story. I have no way of proving that he has so I won't be calling for his job. But I know well enough that once it has happened there is no going back. I don't want to see Cooper fired. But it's black and white and doesn't matter how I feel. Lose the room lose your job.
I'm not happy with Stamkos either. For a guy who has been through so much off the ice he is proving himself a poor example of how to overcome anything on the ice. If it's that bad call a meeting. Your coach is not your therapist. His job is X's and O's and yours is getting your team to fall in and follow orders and you slap them up the head and tell them to stop crying and man up
"It's only two games" is a fine point. The issue starts if the same thing is said after 20 games.
Or if you're DFC two years ago - "it's only 68 games guys!""It's only two games" is a fine point. The issue starts if the same thing is said after 20 games.
Or if you're DFC two years ago - "it's only 68 games guys!"
Especially when it has happened before, and we have missed the playoffs because of it. Injuries were a thing of course too, but we still should've made it.Yea you cant freak out after 2 games but I think the concern is legit.
Especially when it has happened before, and we have missed the playoffs because of it. Injuries were a thing of course too, but we still should've made it.
Maybe they have a period and a game mixed up.It’s kinda scary when the players are saying “we played a good game”. After the first period they got out-worked imo.
Cooper has been the problem. He just conveniently is masked by heroics to lessen the embarassment. He's a good coach and I won't act like there's a perfect one, but the guy has some serious flaws with adapting and firing these guys up - from a fans perspective. There's no reason the team should be so mediocre in a conference final (Where your goalie saved you from being ousted in 5), preseason and the first two games. We look like a carbon copy.
Too cute with passing, "best" players look like a total sham with no look behind the back passes, passing on 2 on 1s. List goes on and on. Sergachev looks like a complete tire fire in his end because I guess nobody told him to put two hands on his stick, make a play before the year 2065 and get it out. Stamkos looks worse than a regular call up and Kucherov looks disinterested.
That's from 2 games. Same story every year. Eventually you have to part ways with 1 guy instead of 18, that being the coach.
I completely agree with this. BUT, I also think that the team still needs a new voice. Cooper has had plenty of opportunities to take this team to the next level but he fails to adapt his game plan everytime. In the series against the caps, the players looked like they were just going through the motions because they knew what they were doing wasn't working. I think that this team has succeeded in spite of cooper, not because of him. He's not a bad coach, but I think its time for a change.This is the lines I want to see.
Palat - Johnson - Kuch
Stammer - Point - Miller
Gourde - Cirelli - Joseph
Killorn - Paquette - Erne
Well said. This is a larger issue than “Its two games lol XD”. Cut the head off and start trimming the fat, this is not a winning module we’re icing.
Two goals in 12 very meaningful periods
Whether it's game 2 or game 82 doesn't matter to me. The two points from a game on 10/11/2018 should mean just as much as the two points from the game on 04/04/2019... they all count towards getting into the playoffs.