GDT: #1: FLYERS at Golden Knights, Thursday, Oct. 4, 2018, 10:00 p.m. ET

[deadhead]

Stupid.

I know people don't like Weal but he's absolutely one of the 12 best forwards. Heaviness + reliability > skill + skating.

Weal can skate? Seriously, he's an average skater which is why he struggles defensively, he's quick and agile in short areas, but his size limits him in traffic. More suited to 3C than 4C, but beat out by the Pimp. At 4C, six of one, half dozen of the other. The kind of decision that isn't worth losing sleep over. And Weal can't PK.

As far as Leier v Lehtera, Leier went unclaimed, when a young player at minimum salary goes unclaimed, that's the league proclaiming him below replacement level, since he couldn't replace anyone on a NHL roster.

Me, I'm just gonna keep an eye on Rubtsov this fall in LHV.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

There's no logical statistical argument to be made for Weal to be the 13th Forward. Whenever the argument comes, please mentally copy and paste my reply in line.

*Edit* I picked the wrong one, sorry. This time it was end of the bench guys don't actually matter. Those who have winning tickets, please form a line to the left to collect your winnings.

 

[deadhead]

The other thing to remember with Weal is he's no kid anymore, he's 26 and turns 27 at the end of the season.

At some point he has to produce, not merely look good, he was doing the same thing in preseason that he did last year, control the puck, skate around and end up with a weak shot or a turnover, to me he's an "empty Corsi" player - some players generate shots but not good scoring chances.

Weal is similar to Cousins, a little more skilled, a little lighter and less fiesty, both are tweeners who'll bounce around the NHL but lack enough size and skill to carve out a top 9 role on a regular basis.

Next year we'll have Rubtsov, Twarynski, NAK, Frost, Allison, Laczynski pushing for forward jobs in camp, and Ratcliffe, Strome, Sushko, maybe Lycksell joining Kase and Bunnaman in the AHL.

 

[Danko]

I just wanna know who the hell Lindblom thinks he is taking Mandog's number. Jeeze show a little respect. We haven't even buried the guy yet

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I just wanna know who the hell Lindblom thinks he is taking Mandog's number. Jeeze show a little respect. We haven't even buried the guy yet

Makes you forget about Mandog faster. Honestly, when I saw 23, I completely forgot it was even his number until I read your post.

 

[Danko]

Makes you forget about Mandog faster. Honestly, when I saw 23, I completely forgot it was even his number until I read your post.

Never Forget. amiright @boxcar65 ?

 

[VladDrag]

Normally I don't, but i'm moving Friday and my cable shuts off at 12:00 AM on Friday so I will miss the 2nd half of the game

Can you download the NBC Sports App and watch thru your phone?

 

[VladDrag]

Wow people need to man up around here. It’s not like you are staying up for something required like a job. This is supposed to be fun.

I will fall asleep at 8:30, simply because I get bored.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Fire Hakstol.

Fire Hextall for leaving him these toys.

 

[TheKingPin]

I will fall asleep at 8:30, simply because I get bored.

I’m positive I’ll get drowsy myself. Might as well be baseball.

 

[sa cyred]

Never Forget. amiright @boxcar65 ?

You know he is either Mandog himself or really close to him to follow the guy over to the Blackhawks. Even goes on to say he has been a Hawks fan for 30 years lol

 

[Danko]

FIRE EVERYONE.

Dale Weise....

 

[TB87]

Weal can skate? Seriously, he's an average skater which is why he struggles defensively, he's quick and agile in short areas, but his size limits him in traffic. More suited to 3C than 4C, but beat out by the Pimp. At 4C, six of one, half dozen of the other. The kind of decision that isn't worth losing sleep over. And Weal can't PK.

As far as Leier v Lehtera, Leier went unclaimed, when a young player at minimum salary goes unclaimed, that's the league proclaiming him below replacement level, since he couldn't replace anyone on a NHL roster.

Me, I'm just gonna keep an eye on Rubtsov this fall in LHV.

Weal can skate a lot faster than Lehtera! This coach is very much into team specific matchups for lineup construction (which is reasonable) and Vegas is fast...so he uses his slowest forward at his disposal for the 4C spot? It’s fair to question this decision.



Even-Strength Regularized Adjusted Plus-Minus 2015-2018: specifically, individual contributions to Quality-Weighted Shot Suppression & Shot Suppression

First Graphic: Weal vs. Lehtera




Isolated Defensive impact (Even-Strength
Shot Rates Against): 2016-2018; Per Micah Blake McCurdy (HockeyViz.com)

Second Graphic: Jordan Weal
Third Graphic: Jori Lehtera


Defensive coverage, plays broken up, etc. aren’t stats that are available to us yet. These stats I mentioned are some of the best in measuring defensive contributions (that are publicly available). Weal, in his time as a Flyer (& before) performed better in both of these stats than Lehtera.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Pimp wearing 24, eh? Pretty sweet.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I don’t give a ****.

See, I was giving a **** before, but now I'm not sure I should. I'll give it some more thought.

 

[FLYguy3911]

There's no logical statistical argument to be made for Weal to be the 13th Forward. Whenever the argument comes, please mentally copy and paste my reply in line.

*Edit* I picked the wrong one, sorry. This time it was end of the bench guys don't actually matter. Those who have winning tickets, please form a line to the left to collect your winnings.

It doesn't matter...until Lehtera is on the same ice as someone like Barzal...

 

[kudymen]

You know he is either Mandog himself or really close to him to follow the guy over to the Blackhawks. Even goes on to say he has been a Hawks fan for 30 years lol

It would be much easier if he just said "NHL fan for 30 years", makes it easier to follow ManDog to his next stop

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

It doesn't matter...until Lehtera is on the same ice as someone like Barzal...

Hak will blame Laughton even if he got scratched before the game.

 

[Jtown]

Pimp wearing 24, eh? Pretty sweet.

do you call him " pimp" cause of his hat?

 

[kudymen]

Speaking of Manning, a few days ago I googled Manning and this thing by @Hollywood Couturier popped up

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

do you call him " pimp" cause of his hat?

Yes, that's part of it, but also just because he's a badass hockey player, in my most humble opinion.

 

[Jtown]

Yes, that's part of it, but also just because he's a badass hockey player, in my most humble opinion.

im not oppossed to calling a variety of players/ people pimp as it is the ultimate compliment. But that isn't even a pimp hat, im just struggling to make the connection.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

im not oppossed to calling a variety of players/ people pimp as it is the ultimate compliment. But that isn't even a pimp hat, im just struggling to make the connection.

That's OK, we each have our struggles.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Speaking of Manning, a few days ago I googled Manning and this thing by @Hollywood Couturier popped up

Some of my best work.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

FIRE EVERYONE.

Dale Weise....

Nope, sorry. Leier sent down, Weise still up. Snuff out the little bit of hope.