⭐2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs Season Discussion Thread⭐

1specter

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Frederik Gauthier looks...good?
Indeed he does. While he's a low event player who doesn't really drive play, he is quite good at limiting chances/shots against and is very adept defensively.

I gave up on him after last season and even in the first few games he played this year he looked pretty bad, but he's come around with his foot speed and general pace to the game. I guess I didn't give him enough leeway considering he had come off of a very serious knee injury and missed an entire offseason of training last year.

He also has a deceptively good shot, if he can get enough good looks I could see him scoring ~10 goals or so a year if he continues to improve and get time.

At this point he is a legitimate 4th liner at least.
 
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ottomaddox

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Unbelievable, but Boston are 2 points behind TOR.
also:

Sabres 4
Montreal 5

I know it's a long season, but I would hate to see what might happen if all three of the teams chasing TOR decide to do TDL trades for an end of season push.
 

Gary Nylund

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Unbelievable, but Boston are 2 points behind TOR.
also:

Sabres 4
Montreal 5

I know it's a long season, but I would hate to see what might happen if all three of the teams chasing TOR decide to do TDL trades for an end of season push.

On the other hand, we're tied for 2nd overall while BOS, BUF and MTL are 9/13/14th. The standings are tight for sure, it's what they call parity I believe.
 

ottomaddox

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On the other hand, we're tied for 2nd overall while BOS, BUF and MTL are 9/13/14th. The standings are tight for sure, it's what they call parity I believe.

This contrarian statement doesn't work at all. The playoff format and who qualifies to play means everything. 9/13/14th? What? We care about the top 3 positions in the division and the 2 remaining wild card spots. The closeness of MTL, BOS, and BUF means something.
 

Gary Nylund

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This contrarian statement doesn't work at all. The playoff format and who qualifies to play means everything. 9/13/14th? What? We care about the top 3 positions in the division and the 2 remaining wild card spots. The closeness of MTL, BOS, and BUF means something.

What's contrarian about stating facts?

When did I say that the closeness of MTL, BOS and BUF means nothing?
 

Gary Nylund

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In your last post when you were teaching me about "parody".

I take it you mean parity. Look at how small the gap is between 2nd and 14th place. Parity in the NHL is a fact of life. The point is that you shouldn't be reading anything into the fact that teams are close behind us as that's true of almost every team in the league.
 

jrgtml67

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Looking at the standings in the east it's insane how close teams are. We have a mere 5pt lead in 3rd. The only team with a cushion is Tampa.

I personally would prefer the way soccer does its point system. 3 for a win, OT should be 2pts scrap the shootout or you get 1pt for shootout win and obviously 0 for a loss.

Curious if others agree, as well if others are a bit worried we may miss out. We have a great team and haven't lost more than 2 in a row, but apparently other teams under us are way too close. Lose 2 and others win 2 and we are in danger.
 

Zizzzzy

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Not a fan of the current point system. 25% of the teams in the league have 7 or more points from games they've lost this year.

Statistically improbable, but a team could theoretically not win a single game all year and end up with 82 points in the standings lol.

San Jose, Vegas, and Calgary are currently ahead of us in the standings .. and all 3 teams are ahead of us due to losing more games in overtime, not by winning more.
 

zeke

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Leafs are 4th in the league in score adjusted CF% in the 15gms since Willy came back:

1.SJS 60.1%
2.MTL 56.0%
3.VGK 54.2%
4.TOR 54.2%
5.NSH 53.5%

and 5th in scf%

1.SJS 58.4%
2.VGK 55.4%
3.STL 54.3%
4.MTL 54.2%
5.TOR 54.1%

and 1st in hdcf%

1.TOR 59.7%
2.STL 58.1%
3.SJS 58.0%
4.TBL 57.4%
5.MIN 56.2%

15gms isn't huge, but it's not nothing.

I'm not sure I remember the Leafs ever having a sustained stretch of possession as good as this for this long since we became aware of these stats.
 
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PromisedLand

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Not a fan of the current point system. 25% of the teams in the league have 7 or more points from games they've lost this year.

Statistically improbable, but a team could theoretically not win a single game all year and end up with 82 points in the standings lol.

San Jose, Vegas, and Calgary are currently ahead of us in the standings .. and all 3 teams are ahead of us due to losing more games in overtime, not by winning more.

3 points for regulation win
2 points for OT win
1 point for OT loss
0 point for regulation loss

I've been on this for a while. If NHL can do this things will not only be fairer but funner as teams will always try to win in regulation; especially when playoff race is on and positioning in standings is important
 
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Faltorvo

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On the other hand, we're tied for 2nd overall while BOS, BUF and MTL are 9/13/14th. The standings are tight for sure, it's what they call parity I believe.

OH BUL SH

last season AVs #1 in PP chances,,,leafs 29
this season AVs #1 in PP chances,,leafs 31

what i want to say next will get me banned again.
 

CelticDruid

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Leafs are 4th in the league in score adjusted CF% in the 15gms since Willy came back:

1.SJS 60.1%
2.MTL 56.0%
3.VGK 54.2%
4.TOR 54.2%
5.NSH 53.5%

and 5th in scf%

1.SJS 58.4%
2.VGK 55.4%
3.STL 54.3%
4.MTL 54.2%
5.TOR 54.1%

and 1st in hdcf%

1.TOR 59.7%
2.STL 58.1%
3.SJS 58.0%
4.TBL 57.4%
5.MIN 56.2%

15gms isn't huge, but it's not nothing.

I'm not sure I remember the Leafs ever having a sustained stretch of possession as good as this for this long since we became aware of these stats.


Maple Leaf Hotstove.


8. Through 15 games, here are the numbers for William Nylander (thought he was flying tonight with lots of good moments… looks to be pretty much at full speed to me now):

1st on the team in shot attempt %
2nd on the team in unblocked shot attempt %
1st in shots for %
1st in scoring chance %
1st in high danger scoring chance %
 

Faltorvo

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Not a fan of the current point system. 25% of the teams in the league have 7 or more points from games they've lost this year.

Statistically improbable, but a team could theoretically not win a single game all year and end up with 82 points in the standings lol.

San Jose, Vegas, and Calgary are currently ahead of us in the standings .. and all 3 teams are ahead of us due to losing more games in overtime, not by winning more.

well for starters, historically,,, since the changes they would finish "ball park 7th last"

BUT they could be the only team in history to claim ,"they did not lose a single game in regulation"

sorry ,,but i put this one on the PA

from all the information available, they had no interest in taking overtime any farther till shoot outs get triggered.
 

Albi34

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All I can say is, we are very lucky to have JT come be a 1A/1B center for the leafs. Matthews was deserved, and Marner was good scouting. But JT was just awesome luck.
 
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1specter

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Looking at the standings in the east it's insane how close teams are. We have a mere 5pt lead in 3rd. The only team with a cushion is Tampa.

I personally would prefer the way soccer does its point system. 3 for a win, OT should be 2pts scrap the shootout or you get 1pt for shootout win and obviously 0 for a loss.

Curious if others agree, as well if others are a bit worried we may miss out. We have a great team and haven't lost more than 2 in a row, but apparently other teams under us are way too close. Lose 2 and others win 2 and we are in danger.
It's pretty ridiculous that we have 3 less ROWs than Tampa yet we are 12 pts behind them, and have 4 more ROWs than Boston yet are only 4 pts ahead. Joke
 
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zeke

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Leafs are 4th in the league in score adjusted CF% in the 15gms since Willy came back:

1.SJS 60.1%
2.MTL 56.0%
3.VGK 54.2%
4.TOR 54.2%
5.NSH 53.5%

and 5th in scf%

1.SJS 58.4%
2.VGK 55.4%
3.STL 54.3%
4.MTL 54.2%
5.TOR 54.1%

and 1st in hdcf%

1.TOR 59.7%
2.STL 58.1%
3.SJS 58.0%
4.TBL 57.4%
5.MIN 56.2%

15gms isn't huge, but it's not nothing.

I'm not sure I remember the Leafs ever having a sustained stretch of possession as good as this for this long since we became aware of these stats.

now the stats from corsica, which remove empty net situations:

15gms since Willy returned:

cf%

1.SJS 59.6
2.MTL 55.5
3.TOR 53.6
4.STL 53.5
5.VGK 53.5

xgf%

1.STL 57.8
2.SJS 57.7
3.TOR 55.8
4.TBL 55.0
5.CAR 54.0

finally - FINALLY - we're complementing our skill advantage with legit elite team play. about damn time.
 

HamiltonNHL

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Lost 3, Won 4.
All 3 losses were vs TBL and Boston.

Not stellar.

Not bad in the parity NHL.
 
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Lost 3, Won 4.
All 3 losses were vs TBL and Boston.

Not stellar.

Not bad in the parity NHL.
Now is not the time to trade the youth or award winning Sparks
Salary cap means fat cats and cheap young kids- mid range pay is a hard sell
Sleep well - no analytics suggest sitting in the penalty box is a good plan, regardless of clamor Leafs fans bark
It's long term, So what if we don't win the cup this year? Don't trade those skilled Marlies to lose today, that's a plan that smell!



The American Hockey League announced today that Garret Sparksand Calvin Pickard of the Toronto Marlies are the recipients of the Harry “Hap” Holmes Memorial Award for the 2017-18 season. Since 1972, the award has been presented to the goaltender(s) with at least 25 games played on the team which allows the fewest goals per game in the regular season.
Marlies’ Sparks, Pickard win Hap Holmes Award | TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League
 

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