Speculation: ‘20-21 Trade/Free Agency Thread Part II

[robbieboy3686]

Off topic, Claude julien available . We keep struggling , he might be inbound ( along with a new gm) feel like the Samuelis are cut throat businessman, and they might clean house

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Off topic, Claude julien available . We keep struggling , he might be inbound ( along with a new gm) feel like the Samuelis are cut throat businessman, and they might clean house

I don't know why you'd ever think this. Also not sure how I feel about Julien here although I do think he's a good coach.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Was it ever actually reported that the Ducks tried to trade Henrique, or that they asked him to waive for Columbus? Only thing I read is that they were on his NTC.

Just that Columbus was on his list, but it is curious how that tidbit surfaced when the Ducks were talking to the Blue Jackets.

 

[DavidBL]

Was it ever actually reported that the Ducks tried to trade Henrique, or that they asked him to waive for Columbus? Only thing I read is that they were on his NTC.

No official reports came out that I am aware of but the tweet saying CBJ was on his list. Now, I'm not positive but teams don't keep a list on file so the only way anyone would know if CBJ was on his list is if he was asked for it because of trade talks. At least that is how I see it.

 

[DavidBL]

Off topic, Claude julien available . We keep struggling , he might be inbound ( along with a new gm) feel like the Samuelis are cut throat businessman, and they might clean house

I think CJ is likely a lot like RC. defense first coach. I'd be afraid of him doing to Zegras what Boston did to Seguin. Obviously different circumstances as far as the extra curricular activities but Boston really wasn't getting the offense out of him that was expected.

 

[MMC]

Off topic, Claude julien available . We keep struggling , he might be inbound ( along with a new gm) feel like the Samuelis are cut throat businessman, and they might clean house

Absolutely not

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

No official reports came out that I am aware of but the tweet saying CBJ was on his list. Now, I'm not positive but teams don't keep a list on file so the only way anyone would know if CBJ was on his list is if he was asked for it because of trade talks. At least that is how I see it.

I believe they ask at the start of each year for the list but odd that it came out when that kind of thing has never come out here.

 

[DavidBL]

I believe they ask at the start of each year for the list but odd that it came out when that kind of thing has never come out here.

Its possible but if teams did that why do we see reports of players being asked for their lists? Maybe I'm confusing the list with being asked to waive.

 

[Daz28]

Its possible but if teams did that why do we see reports of players being asked for their lists? Maybe I'm confusing the list with being asked to waive.

If I was the player, I wouldn't put my list out ahead of time. There's nothing for them to gain from it. There's really no benefit for the team to receive it early either.

 

[DavidBL]

If I was the player, I wouldn't put my list out ahead of time. There's nothing for them to gain from it. There's really no benefit for the team to receive it early either.

That would suggest he was asked because they needed to know for a trade option IMO

 

[ADHB]

If I was the player, I wouldn't put my list out ahead of time. There's nothing for them to gain from it. There's really no benefit for the team to receive it early either.

What do you mean ahead of time? Do you mean when it was reported or when it was submitted? The list has to be submitted by the player at the beginning of the season, I'm sure.

Like some others have speculated, there has to be a reason it came out that CBJ was on his no-trade list. I'd guess it's either because he was asked to waive it, or because he or his agent leaked the information to influence things one way or another.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Absolutely not

He’s a Bob Murray esque hire

 

[Duck Off]

Virtanen is a pylon, basically an offensive zone Allen. Zero IQ. I want nothing to do with him, and the moment Bob trades for him I am officially on the fire Murray bandwagon.

how the f*** are you not already on that train?

 

[Daz28]

What do you mean ahead of time? Do you mean when it was reported or when it was submitted? The list has to be submitted by the player at the beginning of the season, I'm sure.

Like some others have speculated, there has to be a reason it came out that CBJ was on his no-trade list. I'd guess it's either because he was asked to waive it, or because he or his agent leaked the information to influence things one way or another.

Well, what I've found is Ottawa asking 10 players in December, and Rick Nash being asked in February in years past, so it appears they were not submitted at the start of the season. Then I found this: Players with a Modified NTC who were required to submit a "list of trade teams" between Mar 12 and Sept 1, are eligible to update their lists as part of the CBA MOU for this year. So it looks like a few years ago you were asked for them, and now you submit them during a certain period.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

If they can't trade Manson or Henrique then they must expose them to the expansion draft. Expose Silf too, no way Seattle wants anything to do with that contract to a declining Silf

This opens 3 protection spots to Jones, Mahura and Milano. Trade Heinen before then, he seems useless.

I see Jones as a low cost middle six option going forward, Mahura is simply better than Larsson and Guhle and who knows maybe he turns into a 37 point guy like Fowler.
Hakanpa > Manson. Resign Hak after the expansion draft

 

[Dryish]

how the f*** are you not already on that train?

Cause I saw this season coming a mile away, and I'm fairly sure Bob is going to step down at the end of the season anyway. I have privately wanted a change at the helm, or at least a publicly announced change in direction, for a while now, and while his "retooling on the fly" idea seemed valiant enough at the start I never truly thought we could pull it off. And that was always going to become apparent.

Now remains the question, what will the current regime do? Time for change is ripe, yeah, but I'd be fine seeing things to the end of the season before cleaning house unless Bob royally messes up. And the idea of trading for Virtanen is definitely right up there. The nonsensical "we'll be competing for playoffs" sentiment at the start was already a bad enough sign, but this is downright alarming.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

What can they get in a quantity for quality trade in packaging Terry + Milano + Manson ?
Not only could they get an upgrade but it opens up protection expansion spots to other players.

Would suck to see Terry turn into a bust after they use an protection spot on him in the expansion draft
and we watch Seattle have Jones score 25 goals in his first year with Seattle or Mahura puts up 35 points his first year in Seattle.

 

[Kalv]

So, have Rico played his last game for us?

 

[Deuce22]

What can they get in a quantity for quality trade in packaging Terry + Milano + Manson ?
Not only could they get an upgrade but it opens up protection expansion spots to other players.

Would suck to see Terry turn into a bust after they use an protection spot on him in the expansion draft
and we watch Seattle have Jones score 25 goals in his first year with Seattle or Mahura puts up 35 points his first year in Seattle.

Mahura definitely needs to be protected. Unless Murray is replaced, I don't see him trading Manson or Terry.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Mahura definitely needs to be protected. Unless Murray is replaced, I don't see him trading Manson or Terry.

Wouldn't be surprised if he trades Mahura to Seattle to make them select Henrique or something.

 

[Leonardo87]

The Keepers:

Gibson, Lindholm, Getzlaf, Fowler, Zegras, Comtois,Rowney, and Drysdale

The Maybe Keepers: (Likely keep unless a really good return happens)

Hakanpaa, Rakell, Mahura,Terry, Milano, Jones, Deslauries

The GTFO....

Steel, Henrique, Silfverberg, Manson, Shattenkirk (Black hole of suckness), Heinen, Larsson, Grant(Very disappointing with this one)

Feel free to come up with your own. I know some may disagree.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

The Keepers:

Gibson, Lindholm, Getzlaf, Fowler, Zegras, Comtois,Rowney, and Drysdale

The Maybe Keepers: (Likely keep unless a really good return happens)

Hakanpaa, Rakell, Mahura,Terry, Milano, Jones, Deslauries

The GTFO....

Steel, Henrique, Silfverberg, Manson, Shattenkirk (Black hole of suckness), Heinen, Larsson, Grant(Very disappointing with this one)

Feel free to come up with your own. I know some may disagree.

I'm completely unsold on Terry. I don't care if he makes cute plays that lead to nothing, even great playmakers eventually get other people to score even if they lack finish.
I honestly leaning towards that he's gonna bust. I don't see much confidence out there on the ice and if he can't score he doesn't really bring anything else.

 

[Leonardo87]

I'm completely unsold on Terry. I don't care if he makes cute plays that lead to nothing, even great playmakers eventually get other people to score even if they lack finish.
I honestly leaning towards that he's gonna bust. I don't see much confidence out there on the ice and if he can't score he doesn't really bring anything else.

I’m still on the fence with Terry.

I left off Lundestrom because he is only 21 and still needs time not fair to judge him on the limited games but he is trending is the right direction.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Hopefully something is in the works this atmosphere , management has been irritating over the last 3 seasons

 

[McDonald19]

The Keepers:

Gibson, Lindholm, Getzlaf, Fowler, Zegras, Comtois,Rowney, and Drysdale

The Maybe Keepers: (Likely keep unless a really good return happens)

Hakanpaa, Rakell, Mahura,Terry, Milano, Jones, Deslauries

The GTFO....

Steel, Henrique, Silfverberg, Manson, Shattenkirk (Black hole of suckness), Heinen, Larsson, Grant(Very disappointing with this one)

Feel free to come up with your own. I know some may disagree.

Good list, I mostly agree.

If Jones continues to play the way he did in the Coyotes series, he can move from the maybes to the keepers.

Rowney is on IR and a 32 year old UFA after the season. He is a solid 4th liner, but I think the Ducks should move on.

Steel is probably still a maybe for me.