Injury Report: Zack Smith Out 3 Weeks - Dislocated Thumb
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No we wouldn't. Stop with all the "Methot in the lineup we wouldnt have lost that game." because we lost alot of games with him in there last year as well.
If I'm to beleive some of the fans on here, with Methot in the lineup we wouldnt have lost a game yet.
Oh and we'd be in even more cap problems next year.
We now have a more mobile with higher offensive upside d core. Harpur and Jaros will take over that role in time as a 5/6 shutdown pairing.
IMO we're better off without him. Good luck in Dallas bud!
If I'm to beleive some of the fans on here, with Methot in the lineup we wouldnt have lost a game yet.
Oh and we'd be in even more cap problems next year.
We now have a more mobile with higher offensive upside d core. Harpur and Jaros will take over that role in time as a 5/6 shutdown pairing.
IMO we're better off without him. Good luck in Dallas bud!
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He's been a detriment a majority of the time he is playing in the top 6.
Get him in a spot he is fit to play and he is fine.
Get him in a spot he is fit to play and he is fine.
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Pierre from Orleans
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He doesn't score or generate offense. He's a career bottom six forward. He's reverted to the terrible version of himself. Saw glimpses of the old Smith last year but for the most part he's been underwhelming
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Hopefully some time away will help him in being more productive when he comes back. Tough to see another player injured though.
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That's not his role to create offence, he's the defensive conscience on any line he is put on & is a player that needs someone else to get him the puck in scoring positions. He should be playing with Stone who knows how to get him the puck but GB needs him in other roles apparently which obviously fans who only seem to understand offence & pts don't seem to understand the importance of good defensive forwards who are hard to play against.
It's why GB picked Smith first to play with Hoffman & Duchene because he wanted a defensive forward with those two. The rest of your post is nonsense, Smith is an excellent defensive forward, he's good at faceoffs & is one of the very few forwards on this roster that plays with some grit. The problem with so many on here is that if a player is not producing offensively they are considered useless & all the other things they do well doesn't matter. Luckily the coach appreciates what Smith is capable of & all the different roles he can play for this team. They should get rid of Dzingel at the deadline, he's a player that contributes nothing to this team at forward including when he plays in the top 6.
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I think you helped solidify my point. In general top 6 forwards are for generating offense. He should be playing bottom 6 minutes where he can still be defensively responsible and at the same time play against lesser players. You make it seem like we have no two way forwards playing top 6 minutes. Stone, Brassard, Duchene, Turris while he was here, Ryan? Are they not responsible enough that they need Smith playing with them? I think most can agree Smith is a shell of his former self. He used to be an in your face pest that can chip in regardless of where he plays. He's not that anymore and I don't think its strictly because Boucher defined a different role for him. He's been this way under Stache as well.
You're known for having a love affair with gritty type players but had issues with acquiring Zucc. I don't get it. Boro is out of the lineup and we seem to be doing fine?
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He is expected to create offense. That's why he got paid 3.25M. We didn't pay that much for a defensive specialist. If we wanted a defensive specialist then you can get someone for one third of that.
He should not play with Stone. He should be playing in the bottom six on the wing. That's where he is most effective. He fooled the management that he can actually score goals and got that contract. (actually it was the Stone effect, something akin to what happened with Greening and Spezza)
You are correct that he's good defensively and that's why he was put on that line. But was not playing with them for the whole time. Dido got some time on that line as well.
He's not useless, but he is underachieving. This is not the Smith that the Sens paid for when they signed him to the last contract.
Dzingel is underachieving as well, but I wouldn't get rid of him. I think he is more suited for a top 6 role than Zack.
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If there was ever a golden opportunity for Nick Paul, I would say this is it.
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We can call it a difference of opinion but IMO GB trusts Smith to play with Hoffman & Duchene because those two can be too cute with the puck & turn it over especially Hoffman & Smith is there to defend against that & to protect their assets. Smith has also been dealing with numerous injuries it seems this yr & last yr & that could explain his lack of pt production so far. I also think that Smith is there to shut down the other team's good players & he does that very effectively whereas I guy like Hoffman is not very good defensively.
We have a few good two way forwards in Stone & Turris while he was here, I would not call Ryan or Brassard two way forwards although they are better than others at getting back occasionally but they turn the puck over regularly too, as all offensive players do. That is not to say they are not playing well they are, or Ryan was & Brassard still is. I'm not sure that Duchene has that reputation but seems to get back defensively, I assume that is being coached all over the NHL these days. I assume Zucc is the little forward from the NYR, yeah, I don't want him, I prefer Krieder. Do you have a love affair with small speedy forwards? Touché.
I bet GB puts Ryan, Duchene & Smith together when all are healthy. IMO Smith is still an in your face player but the injuries this yr are holding him back & his salary is hardly top six money. Are we doing fine? I read people complaining about this team in threads all the time, how they lose leads & can't seem to put teams away. But I agree the team is doing fine so far, let's see how people feel & react after the next loss. And I would have Boro in there instead of either Oduya or Wideman at this point & there are a few others I would like to get rid of before Smith or Boro. I can remember a number of games ago Smith was the best player on the ice & a number of people were saying so in the game thread, even though he wasn't producing pts & he may have been picked as player of the game. What have you done for me lately?
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I was about to say amen, but then you said to trade Dzingel. I think Dzingel can be an effective third liner at a minimum and has the speed to be more than that. He is developing nicely and I don’t want to trade him. I think he needs time to gel with a top center and Duchene just might be the one.
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Well I'm a little surprised he just got sent down because I was hoping with another body out Paul could have been able to get a few more games to show something. With Smith out, the forward corps aren't a particularly big group.
Gil Gunderson
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He looked decent from what I saw.
I guess you need to get a hat-trick in the span of 5 minutes playing with grinders to really get a longer look here.
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marc methot has only played more than 70 games twice in his career. He is injured now. He was a big part of our team, but for 5 million a year i want someone that can actually stay healthy more often than not and preferably one who doesnt have back problems
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As stated above, I forgot about him half losing his finger for some reason. Dementia incoming.
I understand your context, but as how our squad looks like right now, I don't care about how his salary is. I just believe that even 70 games(including playoffs, the hand injury was a freak incident) with Methot pairing EK would provide the kind of stability in our other pairings to make a serious push and having competent guys to fill in if Methot got injured.
These pairings would provide a very solid base to protect Andy, who i find somewhat instable nowadays and mix well with our forwards.
Methot/Cleasson - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Oduya/Cleasson/Harpur - Wideman
But hey, this is just my drunken opinion(again).
I understand your context, but as how our squad looks like right now, I don't care about how his salary is. I just believe that even 70 games(including playoffs, the hand injury was a freak incident) with Methot pairing EK would provide the kind of stability in our other pairings to make a serious push and having competent guys to fill in if Methot got injured.
These pairings would provide a very solid base to protect Andy, who i find somewhat instable nowadays and mix well with our forwards.
Methot/Cleasson - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Oduya/Cleasson/Harpur - Wideman
But hey, this is just my drunken opinion(again).
