Yzerman won't sell out next generation

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  1. SENSible1*

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  2. Right.
    Where are all the player-haters, impugning the integrity of Steve Yzerman, who has played himself into a cripple?
    Lots of silence on this one.
     
  3. Da Game

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    I was just about to post this article.

    No matter who you support in this fight, you have to respect what Steve Yzerman has to say. He's a legend.

    He has nothing to gain out of this. He's probably finished.
     
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    Ol' Stevie Boy won't have to worry about "selling out future generations" because there won't be an NHL for future generations to play in, if this continues.

    I like Steve, but he comes off sounding "McCabe-esque" here.
     
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    McCabe-esque? McCabe can't hold Steve Yzerman water bottle. Wow. Yzerman also hardly speaks, unless he has something on his mind.
     
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    There's not going to be a next generation of NHL players if the NHLPA keeps slamming down solid, substantial offers. Nothing is Goodenough for Goodenow
     
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    great, wake me when the NHL actually makes a solid substantial offer :shakehead
     
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    And wake me up when the players actually MAKE a proposal...the December 9th one dosen't count, cause both you and I know the system would be broken again within 2 years
     
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    to be completely honest, neither side has presented a proposal that is workable "right out of the box" in my mind

    both sides have tried to make things as much in their favor as possible without coming to a true compromise...but i think both sides could have used proposals as a starting point for more negotiations as well.
     
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    After the things McCabe has said, I hope he retires out of shame.
     
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    A laudable stand by a great and classy player. If we could hear that the younger generation including guys like Crosby agreed, Stevie's point would be much better received. I think though that if you gave the young guys the choice between negotiating from where we are now and killing a season or two, they'd choose the first.

    It's really for the young guys to decide for themselves and isn't really the old guys' place.
     
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    I should throw my Yzerman book in the fireplace after his idiotic comments. What do you really expect from him. He's a grade 10 dropout with absolutely no formal economic training. The NHLPA probably pleaded with him to say something. So Stevie won't sell out the next generation eh. Well sitting out a year or two over pride had done just that. Where was Stevie when the NHL begged the NHLPA to start working on the CBA two years ago? Maybe Stevie should have opened his mouth then and motivated the union back to the table. Hey the NHLPA didn't negotiate because they based their strategy on the NHL owners caving in mid January. Well that didn't happen did it. Stevie, I loved you as a player. I've got your book, posters and cards. But enjoy your retirement tour through the NHL....Oooops that won't happen. Look forward to some embarassing press release informing the sporting world that you are retiring and no one will care. Booo hooo hooo
     
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    Someone should have told Stevie that the longer they hold out, the less the next generation is going to get.

    But nobody ever claimed that hockey players are smart.
     
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    I dont see the sellout Stevie - I also dont understand what you mean by a 'reasonable' deal. I respect what you did for the game on the ice, but come on, dont you think the game itself deserves a 'reasonable' deal?

    Lets do a quick little sketch of the math and ask yourself where the rest of the numbers are going to come from:

    seasonal
    Average team: 41 games * 16000 fans * $37 (ave Flames ticket in American $) = $24 272 000.00
    Approximate Salary: $35 million

    I realize owners make money on promotions, sponsors, beer and food, as well as equalization payments, but they also spend a ton more on rink maintainance, taxes, medical, equipment, travel expenses and innumerable other expenses. I dont see them making that extra 10 million just to cover costs, never mind make a couple bucks for their investment. Lets look for a 'reasonable' deal for the infrastructure of the game Stevie.
     
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    This is exactly the reason the NHL cannot back down this time around. The last generation of players actually suceeded in doing this and the salaries have been literally raping the sport, it's gotten progressively worse until players are paid so much you see the $10 million salaries you see today. I don't buy this stuff about future generations, what do you want the future players to extort unreasonable amounts of money from a financial landscape that can't support it too?
     
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    Yzerman mayhave nothing to gain, but also nothing to lose. He wants to be a respected hero among the PA but this stance hurts his reputation among fans
     
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    Nothing to lose ???

    How about $4.5 million this year, possibly more next year ... the end to his career.

    You can disagree with a players stance all you want, but they certainly have quite a bit to lose, and for the veterans, almost nothing to gain personally.
     
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    So you are admitting that the NHL's proposals have not been reasonable?
     
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    Yzerman has one season in him left maybe two - hes already a multimillionaire at the tail end of his career
     
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    Exactly my thought, you are already selling them out to appease your collective egos at this point in time, Steve. They'll never make this money back.
     
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    At this stage of his career, a season's salary is almost nothing to him. This costs Steve Yzerman almost nothing. He gets to be a hero to his buddies in the union and fans in Detroit don't care what he says about the lockout.
     
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    Do you think that $4.5 million is more of a loss to Yzerman ... or $10 million is to a guy like Illitch, Jacobs, Karmonos, Cablevision, Comcast, Disney, Wirtz, Kroenke ???
     
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    We are talking about Yzerman :dunno:
     
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    Whats funny is there has been a ton of talk of Yzerman joining the Wings Management once he finally calls it quits.
     
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