Speculation: Your starting 5 against "the idiots"?

[Ossific]

I agree with most people on this board.. start your first line and take an easy opportunity to start with a 1-0 lead. NOTHING would happen if Torts had started the first line. Torts got trolled and bought into it and agreed to fight. He could of avoided the situation like any other level-headed man. They are both guilty of being stupid.

 

[Potrzebie]

You know everyone has a buddy or something you NEVER want pee off. Bogo is one of those guys imo. When that switch is flicked- UGLY. As for the thread title- each coach shares the blame. By the rules- Heartley did not break any- so good on him but he did knowingly cross the "code" and put Torts in a bad spot. Torts- whom I see as nothing more (now) as a mouthpiece - his antics between periods was bizarre- almost Shoenfeld status. Simply stupid and will be dealt with as such.

I immediately thought of this clip.

 

[wpgsilver]

I agree with most people on this board.. start your first line and take an easy opportunity to start with a 1-0 lead. NOTHING would happen if Torts had started the first line. Torts got trolled and bought into it and agreed to fight. He could of avoided the situation like any other level-headed man. They are both guilty of being stupid.

Right like Carlyle did putting Kessel out against Scott.
Totally diffused the situation.

 

[Sweech]

I agree with most people on this board.. start your first line and take an easy opportunity to start with a 1-0 lead. NOTHING would happen if Torts had started the first line. Torts got trolled and bought into it and agreed to fight. He could of avoided the situation like any other level-headed man. They are both guilty of being stupid.

Who of our guys would back down though?

If they don't we've now lost our best players and Calgary has lost their worst. Remember all the guys involved got game misconducts. Huge advantage towards Calgary.

Do you really think guys like Ladd would just turtle? Looking up and down our roster I think maybe Scheifele and Little are the only guy who wouldn't actively drop them in that situation.

Edit: scratch Little. He dropped them in the Boston brawl. Fought Savard I believe which wasn't exactly a disadvantage to him.

 

[StronGeer]

Who of our guys would back down though?

If they don't we've now lost our best players and Calgary has lost their worst. Remember all the guys involved got game misconducts. Huge advantage towards Calgary.

Do you really think guys like Ladd would just turtle?

For an example of this not working, see Kessel v Scott.

 

[LadyJet26]

Lol, Nolan leads the Kings in fighting majors. But yeah he "always" turtles.

Against the Canucks he does. When you cheap shot someone, stand up and fight like a man. We'll disagree here. So I'm saying that and that's it. I hate the Kings and don't get why you like the diving pieces of crap and you don't get why I like the pansy Canucks.

 

[razorsedge]

Tim "Dr. Hook" McCracken
Clarence "Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown
Ross "Mad dog" Maddison
Ogie Ogilthorpe
Andre "Poodle" Lussier

 

[almostawake]

Right like Carlyle did putting Kessel out against Scott.
Totally diffused the situation.

For an example of this not working, see Kessel v Scott.

Really, you're going to compare that to the first faceoff of the game?

The way that went down was Tropp scored a goal. Then off the faceoff Tropp got in a fight with Devane and was knocked out cold. After the fight Scott was challenging the Leafs bench from his bench and had to be restrained by teammates and linesmen.

For the next faceoff Scott was put out there with the fourth line and Carlyle answered with his 1st line. Then the Kessel-Scott incident went down.

If is ridiculous to compare a situation that heated with the opening faceoff of the game.

Any coach that puts his 1st line out there in a situation like that is an idiot but the events leading up to that situation make it completely different than the opening faceoff of a game.

 

[wpgsilver]

Really, you're going to compare that to the first faceoff of the game?

The way that went down was Tropp scored a goal. Then off the faceoff Tropp got in a fight with Devane and was knocked out cold. After the fight Scott was challenging the Leafs bench from his bench and had to be restrained by teammates and linesmen.

For the next faceoff Scott was put out there with the fourth line and Carlyle answered with his 1st line. Then the Kessel-Scott incident went down.

If is ridiculous to compare a situation that heated with the opening faceoff of the game.

Any coach that puts his 1st line out there in a situation like that is an idiot but the events leading up to that situation make it completely different than the opening faceoff of a game.

I'm 100% going to compare them.
I'm aware of the situation, though I appreciate your synopsis.
It enforces the point that if a fourth line is out there to fight (which Calgary's was, they had a winger taking the opening draw) it potentially doesn't matter who the other team puts out.

Would the Flames have jumped the Sedins? No one knows, but do I blame Torts for not wanting to find out? Not at all.

 

[boanst]

I tend to agree with this, although I think with the Jets it would be very different as our skill guys also tend to fight. I wouldn't want Kane, Ladd, Trouba or Buff out there because you know they won't back down. Particularly Kane, who may need to decide whether he wants to be a star on the ice or on the IR.

Thats how i see it too. I dont think we have too many guys that would actually duck a fight. I dont even think about the injury factor but i think about the possibility that several players may get the boot for the ENTIRE game.

No way in hell i want to run 3 lines that includes all the plugs but not our best players while the other team only loses their tough guys

 

[boanst]

Who of our guys would back down though?

If they don't we've now lost our best players and Calgary has lost their worst. Remember all the guys involved got game misconducts. Huge advantage towards Calgary.

Do you really think guys like Ladd would just turtle? Looking up and down our roster I think maybe Scheifele and Little are the only guy who wouldn't actively drop them in that situation.

Edit: scratch Little. He dropped them in the Boston brawl. Fought Savard I believe which wasn't exactly a disadvantage to him.

He also went after yak. No fighting major but the gloves were off

 

[sully1410]

I'd start my top line and top pair. They'll either get a goal quickly or you''ll be laughing with the amount of penalty minutes you''ll get.

 

[wpgsilver]

Just send out Kyle Wellwood.

 

[Ossific]

Who of our guys would back down though?

If they don't we've now lost our best players and Calgary has lost their worst. Remember all the guys involved got game misconducts. Huge advantage towards Calgary.

Do you really think guys like Ladd would just turtle? Looking up and down our roster I think maybe Scheifele and Little are the only guy who wouldn't actively drop them in that situation.

Edit: scratch Little. He dropped them in the Boston brawl. Fought Savard I believe which wasn't exactly a disadvantage to him.

Oh I totally agree with you. We have a tough roster. I just meant in a hypothetical situation of any team.. take your first line and score the first goal off the stupid match up!

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Ladd-Thorburn-Peluso

Stuart-Buff

 

[Sweech]

Oh I totally agree with you. We have a tough roster. I just meant in a hypothetical situation of any team.. take your first line and score the first goal off the stupid match up!

If you watched it the gloves were dropped at the faceoff. The flames were not there to play hockey.

Matchup or not hockey was not going to get played for awhile.

 

[JC Numminen]

Little would deffinetly fight if you get him going. Ive never seen him so mad as he did Vs Edmonton... Looked like he was going to kill someone.

If you Absolutly didn't want a fight, I'd send out guys like Joker-Scheifele-Setoguchi with Trouba and Enstrom, but would rather tell KSW that if they fight they are benched and burn them with there skill

 

[Flair Hay]

Kane-Thorburn-Peluso
Stuart-Bogosian

Montoya

 

[ps241]

NHL has to figure out what it wants to be when it grows up.......are you in or are you out on fighting because this halfway position is weird?

 

[broinwhyteridge]

In-laws don't play hockey.