Rumor: Yohe heard from this guy who knows the kid who saw Bryzgalov pass out at 31 flavors.

[Captain Hook]

Bryz has been like the Russian version of Fleury in the playoffs his last two playoff runs posting save percentages of .879 and .887

I guess I'd take him over Zatkoff if he came cheap enough since he at least has some track record of being a solid NHL level goalie. Still seems rather unlikely though.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I love some of the replies in this thread, his entire career is erased because of two years on a team where the defense was like swiss cheese and no goaltender really has done all that well consistently for them in quite some time, even Bobs was average before he was dumped to the Jackets where he quickly found his way again.

Ilya was no chump with the Ducks or Coyotes, even in Phoenix in the playoffs, that team severely under-performed, suddenly 2yrs in Philly and let's write him off.

Fleury has more than 2 bad years.

This team has had worse back-up options, let's cry some more.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I don't think this board could handle this, no....I know you guys/gals can't handle this if it happen.

First this, and now you're talking adding this .

 

[ObsessedCreative*]

I'd be totally cool with this. No sarcasm.

 

[Shrimper]

Is the plan to put them both in the net at the same time? Might stand a chance then.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Lol, let's write off people that have struggled but have also shown the ability to play at a high level.



Right.

 

[ObsessedCreative*]

Lol, let's write off people that have struggled but have also shown the ability to play at a high level.



Right.

And put all the blind faith in a rookie with ZERO NHL experience and has crumbled in the AHL playoffs.

BRILLIANT

 

[Letang fan 58]

Bryz on a 1 yr 1 mil deal would be a pretty sweet deal. Almost no downside and still pretty decent upside.

Winning the cup with the Flyers paying our goalie. That would alright.

He wasnt good in Philly but their D was worse than ours.

 

[NatureBoy]

Bryz on a 1 yr 1 mil deal would be a pretty sweet deal. Almost no downside and still pretty decent upside.

Winning the cup with the Flyers paying our goalie. That would alright.

He wasnt good in Philly but their D was worse than ours.

But you still can´t compare the way our team plays with the way the Coyotes or Ducks played, when Bryz had his best years.

 

[ObsessedCreative*]

But you still can´t compare the way our team plays with the way the Coyotes or Ducks played, when Bryz had his best years.

Even so I'd stil rather toss a guy like Bryz to the wolves over a guy like Zak.

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

 

[KIRK]

As I wrote before, it's so clear to me what would happen IF the Pens signed Bryzgalov (i.e., if Vokoun is out more than say a month). He'd thoroughly outplay Fleury. Vokoun would come back. And watching Shero and Bylsma deal with that one would be positively epic.

On a side note, a question for the hockey experts: What's bigger, Bryzgalov's universe or Bylsma's ego?

EDIT: ObsessedCreative, you're excused from answering the question. I found your answer in the Fluery for Miller thread . . .

- "NEVER underestimate my stupidity!"

 

[ObsessedCreative*]

As I wrote before, it's so clear to me what would happen IF the Pens signed Bryzgalov (i.e., if Vokoun is out more than say a month). He'd thoroughly outplay Fleury. Vokoun would come back. And watching Shero and Bylsma deal with that one would be positively epic.

On a side note, a question for the hockey experts: What's bigger, Bryzgalov's universe or Bylsma's ego?

EDIT: ObsessedCreative, you're excused from answering the question. I found your answer in the Fluery for Miller thread . . .

boom!

 

[Captain Hook]

You'd think with a former #1 overall pick, 5 million per/year goalie that the backup going down would be no big deal but we all know that isn't the case. It really sucks that it has to be. It speaks volumes about where Fleury is at this point in his career and it isn't good.

 

[ObsessedCreative*]

You'd think with a former #1 overall pick, 5 million per/year goalie that the backup going down would be no big deal but we all know that isn't the case. It really sucks that it has to be. It speaks volumes about where Fleury is at this point in his career and it isn't good.

well the fact that we even needed to invest 2 million dollars on a cap strapped team in a "back-up" was a massive red flag to begin with.

 

[Cardboard Orpik]

I'm all for this if Vokoun can't come back. Bryz is a nut and not very healthy for our locker room but he's not as bad as Philly's goaltender-go-round made him out to be.

 

[IcedCapp]

We have parks!

 

[wgknestrick]

Bryz and even Miller do not solve a single problem on the Pens. They are all almost indistinguishable from each other IMO (esp Bryz/MAF). I will take my chances that Zatkoff is at least as good at Bryz plus he can be set back down when TV comes back.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...0&teamid=0&type=shots&sort=ShPctA&sortdir=ASC

5v5 SV%
Miller 92.5%
MAF 91.9%
Bryz 91.5%

for reference
Vokoun: 93.2% (#6 overall)
I would consider elite goaltenders at >93% SV% at 5v5 (which gives about 10). 91% are the bottom 3rd (which is MAF/Bryz). Miller would be slightly above average IMO.


I guess its a whole different story if you think MAF isn't even serviceable to the Pens, but with this team, he should be enough to make the playoffs. Obviously, you want a better option once they are there.

 

[cygnus47]

Bryz and even Miller do not solve a single problem on the Pens. They are all almost indistinguishable from each other IMO (esp Bryz/MAF). I will take my chances that Zatkoff is at least as good at Bryz plus he can be set back down when TV comes back.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...0&teamid=0&type=shots&sort=ShPctA&sortdir=ASC

5v5 SV%
Miller 92.5%
MAF 91.9%
Bryz 91.5%

for reference
Vokoun: 93.2% (#6 overall)
I would consider elite goaltenders at >93% SV% at 5v5 (which gives about 10). 91% are the bottom 3rd (which is MAF/Bryz). Miller would be slightly above average IMO.


I guess its a whole different story if you think MAF isn't even serviceable to the Pens, but with this team, he should be enough to make the playoffs. Obviously, you want a better option once they are there.

The quality of shots Bryz and Miller face is on a different level though. The Flyers and Sabres have far below average D.

 

[ByeBye]

Bryz and even Miller do not solve a single problem on the Pens. They are all almost indistinguishable from each other IMO (esp Bryz/MAF). I will take my chances that Zatkoff is at least as good at Bryz plus he can be set back down when TV comes back.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...0&teamid=0&type=shots&sort=ShPctA&sortdir=ASC

5v5 SV%
Miller 92.5%
MAF 91.9%
Bryz 91.5%

for reference
Vokoun: 93.2% (#6 overall)
I would consider elite goaltenders at >93% SV% at 5v5 (which gives about 10). 91% are the bottom 3rd (which is MAF/Bryz). Miller would be slightly above average IMO.


I guess its a whole different story if you think MAF isn't even serviceable to the Pens, but with this team, he should be enough to make the playoffs. Obviously, you want a better option once they are there.

Have you watched Miller? Like ever?

 

[Zen Arcade]

Obviously they're keeping Glass around to protect Bryz from bears. Savvy move, Shero.

 

[Kovifan27]

I don't really even know what to think of this.

If the Pens picked him up and he played out of his mind the city of Philly would melt down. A lot of my friends are still upset w/letting Bob go.

I would suspect the Pens are looking at every FA goalie so the name game is going to tie them to everyone.

 

[AquaticBirdman]

I'd rather play with 6 men for an entire game than even have Bryz warming up our bench.

 

[Darth Vitale]

Could we have 'All in for Bryz' avatars?

On a related note, how are Yohe (and Rossi) qualified for their job?

I am assuming that neither of them have ever played hockey. Did they go to journalism school?

All are free to make their own avatar but I don't think you'll get anyone to start making All in for Bryz avatars because it's more scary than funny.

To your second point, no Rossi and Yohe are not qualified to do their job even though yes, they probably did graduate from Journalism school. It doesn't mean much these days. Sadly, they're in the majority. Most American journalists under the age of 40 (roughly) don't know what they're doing. But shoddy reporting has become commonplace and younger generations have gotten so used to it / have seen so little else, that they don't question it. This is just sports obviously, but it goes well beyond that into the realm of business reporting, politics, and foreign affairs.

There are only about a dozen university programs out there that are truly rigorous in how they teach and train students to research, validate, and report. The rest are glorified English degrees basically. So you have to find someone who went to one of those programs, and who applied themselves to learning all they could (rather than just coasting through)... good luck.

My understanding is Rossi went to WV and no, WV is not one of those schools or anywhere close.

 

[Captain Hook]

I don't really even know what to think of this.

If the Pens picked him up and he played out of his mind the city of Philly would melt down. A lot of my friends are still upset w/letting Bob go.

I would suspect the Pens are looking at every FA goalie so the name game is going to tie them to everyone.

Agreed.

It took Vokoun over 3 months to be cleared to resume his career back in 2006-07 with Nashville. Who knows how long it'll take this time. Pens will obviously have to do their due diligence with goalies on the market in case Vokoun does have to miss a ton of time or has a setback while trying to recover. Fleury could also get hurt or Zatkoff could struggle in the NHL. You never know.