Yakopov produces point/game

frag2

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Back in 2015. How has Galchenyuk's career progressed since, whether in terms of contracts or otherwise?

Not sure why you're asking when the point is, at the end of day, Larionov has shown to not always give the best advice
 

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That may or may not be the case, but Galchenyuk has damaged his own career if anything. Larionov has no role in it.
 

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Doesn't that kind of describe St. Louis though? They played with lots of structure too (and Hitchcock is a coach who lives and breathes structure), and had great dmen like JBo, Shattenkirk and Parayko to move the puck up ice, and Yak wasn't able to take advantage of that.

I think St.Lious was way to far on the other spectrum and was way to rigid for his game. Although at this point its pretty much on Yak for being a flawed player and not being able to adapt. But if you wanted to find him the perfect situation and have him have a 15 goal/40 point year I think Dallas/Tampa would be the best bets
 

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And 0 points in his last 4 games. Predictably, the OP has disappeared.

Back to playing 8 mins a game.
0 plus minus while first line RW Rantanen was -3.
Yet another team not willing to use Yak effectively
 

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Ignoring all the baggage from his career, I'm happy for him that he's doing well in the NHL now.
Can’t see Larionov saying too much this time. His next stop is the KHL, I think he’s out of NHL options after Colorado. We’re long past the point of just blaming the Oilers now.
 

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Back to playing 8 mins a game.
0 plus minus while first line RW Rantanen was -3.
Yet another team not willing to use Yak effectively

This has to be sarcastic, right?
 

joestevens29

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That may or may not be the case, but Galchenyuk has damaged his own career if anything. Larionov has no role in it.
I don't know that the Habs have helped either. Seems like they can never make up their mind on whether he's a winger or center. Now they are trying him as a grinder, I just don't get it. Unfortunately looks like they are going to do the same to Drouin.
 

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Can’t see Larionov saying too much this time. His next stop is the KHL, I think he’s out of NHL options after Colorado. We’re long past the point of just blaming the Oilers now.
Maybe he goes to Vegas yet. One Russian for another.
 

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This is what Nail Yakupov is. When he finds his goldilocks fit, he'll flash some sizzle and put a few points up and people will wonder if he's finally found his groove. Then any small detail will change and he'll return to generating no scoring chances, generating no possession time and find his way back to the press box.
 

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This is what Nail Yakupov is. When he finds his goldilocks fit, he'll flash some sizzle and put a few points up and people will wonder if he's finally found his groove. Then any small detail will change and he'll return to generating no scoring chances, generating no possession time and find his way back to the press box.
The small detail is ususally coaches 'saving him from himself' and limiting his opportunities. If you want to see what he is, give him a longer leash. The Avs definitely should because they've hit rock frigging bottom already.
 

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The small detail is ususally coaches 'saving him from himself' and limiting his opportunities. If you want to see what he is, give him a longer leash. The Avs definitely should because they've hit rock frigging bottom already.

They're not saving him from himself; they're saving themselves from him.

If he's not in the perfect situation, there's nothing there. Not even flashes of something. All these coaches have come to this conclusion because he's got next to zero hockey sense and hurts them more than he could help them.

He'll flush to the KHL soon and I don't even think he'll be decent there.
 

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They're not saving him from himself; they're saving themselves from him.

If he's not in the perfect situation, there's nothing there. Not even flashes of something. All these coaches have come to this conclusion because he's got next to zero hockey sense and hurts them more than he could help them.

He'll flush to the KHL soon and I don't even think he'll be decent there.
They just got blown out 7-0 by Vegas, an expansion team playing their third string goaltender with one NHL game of experience. An expansion team that ran a top pairing of Brad Hunt and Derek Engelland after waiving their top D and assistant captain earlier that afternoon. That team is saving themselves from no one. They are pathetic.

Nail Yakupov produces in an environment when he's allowed to take chances without direct consequence. When he's buried, he loses confidence, he's unwilling to take chances, he struggles, he pouts. He's never going to be the guy that 'plays the right way', but if you give him that longer leash, he will produce.

No matter where Yakupov plays this season--first line or fourth line--the Avs are going to suck donkeyballs.
 

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The funny thing about him playing 'the right way' though is that every year his possession numbers have steadily improved while his image has consistently diminished.
 

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Nope, Let's trade for him and bring him back. The Oilers are weak on wings

You really should let this go. He is not a very good player, we made a mistake drafting him, and he's not coming back. The odds are he'll be playing in another league sooner than later. Time to move on.
 

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Washington or Tampa Bay should acquire Yak.

Tampa have Callahan and Kunitz not doing jack for them.

Washington lacks depth and aren't scoring the way they should.

More importantly, both teams have a guy that can teach Yak how to shoot. How Stamkos and Ovi setup is exactly what Yak needs to get back to doing. If he can figure out where to be on the PP and not look like a lost dog as much as he does then a team might be able to turn him into a specialist.

I'd suggest CBJ as they did real well converting Gagner to a PP specialist. I just don't know that Torts is a good coach for him. Who knows maybe Torts yelling at him everyday would help. Heck maybe bring Larionov to practices so Torts can yell at him too.
 

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@joestevens29 , while it's nice too have the sentiment to give him some kind of chance with more established stars, I just don't see that as the reality of the situation. Tampa have 2 previously proven players not producing, Yak isn't going to help that situation. He hs proved squat over multiple chances with 3 teams now. Washington lacks depth? I'll take your word for it, as I don't follow them much, if at all. But my question is what "depth" would a guy like Yak provide? As a previous full on supporter of that player, he just hasn't shown a snippet of NHL readiness in all the time he's been afforded a spot on any team he's played for. He too high risk, low (no?) reward for any team in this league. He doesn't belong in the NHL IMO. And I'm starting to wonder if there is some kind of complex happening in people here, and possibly GM's even, to even waste their time on him. And I'm the lst person who would take the stance that I have just stated, so take that for what it is I suppose.
 

joestevens29

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@joestevens29 , while it's nice too have the sentiment to give him some kind of chance with more established stars, I just don't see that as the reality of the situation. Tampa have 2 previously proven players not producing, Yak isn't going to help that situation. He hs proved squat over multiple chances with 3 teams now. Washington lacks depth? I'll take your word for it, as I don't follow them much, if at all. But my question is what "depth" would a guy like Yak provide? As a previous full on supporter of that player, he just hasn't shown a snippet of NHL readiness in all the time he's been afforded a spot on any team he's played for. He too high risk, low (no?) reward for any team in this league. He doesn't belong in the NHL IMO. And I'm starting to wonder if there is some kind of complex happening in people here, and possibly GM's even, to even waste their time on him. And I'm the lst person who would take the stance that I have just stated, so take that for what it is I suppose.
I'm not really saying play with stars as much as I'm saying learn from them in practice.

Washington's depth isn't that great. Not sure if Backstrom is still out but after Ovi, Kuz and Oshie it's Eller, Vrana, and Beagle.

I'm more suggesting as well if the guy is ever going to cut it he needs to go somewhere where he can be mentored by someone that is elite at the skill that Yak once had.
 
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