GDT: WWE NXT: TakeOver Philadelphia (27th January 2018) - Ciampa Watch

[ManofSteel55]

Vince is going to ruin him. I give it 6 months with him on the main roster before reports coming out of "Vince not getting it" and he ends up a jobber.

Dream is precisely the type of character that Vince would want to run with.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Dream is precisely the type of character that Vince would want to run with.

Yeah I will believe it when I see it. I mean I hope I am wrong. I really don't think I will be though.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yeah I will believe it when I see it. I mean I hope I am wrong. I really don't think I will be though.

I'm more worried about a guy like Johnny Wrestling - he's small, doesn't have a "gimmick" per se, and would need a bit of time to connect with the mainstream audience. Dream is an over the top character, which Vince loves, has an amazing physique, which Vince loves, is good on the mic, which Vince loves, and shows a ton of charisma in the ring, which Vince loves. He'll make it on the main roster when they decide to bring him up. I could see Dream being in NXT for a long time though, he's so young that they know they have time with him, and if he comes up after an NXT championship reign that would put the character over the top - but he's behind Aleistair Black and I think Adam Cole at least in terms of getting an NXT championship run, maybe behind guys like Killian Dane and Lars Sullivan as well (although I wouldn't put the belt on either of those two monsters at all, I don't see how either needs it for their main roster push/credibility).

 

[Virtanen18]

Midcard belt would be fun. They do a really good job of making the non-belt feuds interesting though.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Midcard belt would be fun. They do a really good job of making the non-belt feuds interesting though.

They don't have time for a mid card belt. A one hour weekly with quarterly specials doesn't need a 4th title (5th if you count the occasionally defended UK title).

 

[Natey]

Yeah I will believe it when I see it. I mean I hope I am wrong. I really don't think I will be though.

I'd be more worried about the casual fans not taking to him than Vince.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Big Dave gives Almas/Gargiano 5 Stars!

Black/Cole got 4.25

First WWE match to get 5 Stars since Punk/Cena 2011 MitB

 

[GKJ]

From Dave:

AOP v. Fish/O’Reilly ***1/2
Velveteen Dream v. Kassius Ohno **3/4
Ember Moon v. Shayna Baszler **3/4
Aleister Black v. Adam Cole ****1/4
Andrade Cien Almas v. Johnny Gargano *****

This is how I have it

AOP v. Fish/O’Reilly ***1/2
Velveteen Dream v. Kassius Ohno **3/4
Ember Moon v. Shayna Baszler ***1/4
Aleister Black v. Adam Cole ****1/2
Andrade Cien Almas v. Johnny Gargano *****

Main event was, like, the easiest one to grade. There’s no way that wasn’t the best match I had seen live. I watched it back just yesterday and felt just as hot for it as I did as when I was there. Mauro is like marking out during the match. Incredible stuff. And it was here in my hometown, that was special.

 

[Paris in Flames]

I feel you both have the Women's match too high, imo.

That was just a disaster to me.

 

[SeidoN]

agree, I have tuned out bigtime on the NXT Womens division

 

[ColePens]

On the flip side, I think Moon is weirdly hated around here for no reason. She did a tremendous job selling, even into the women's rumble, and I enjoyed it. Thought it was enjoyable. Nothing special - but good.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Overall I’m a fan of Ember Moon.

Her match with Shayna though....yikes. Really really poor I thought. I thought her selling was too over the top.

I thought Dream and Ohno was better than it’s getting credit for here, but I’m a huge fan of Dream so I could be biased.

 

[Natey]

On the flip side, I think Moon is weirdly hated around here for no reason. She did a tremendous job selling, even into the women's rumble, and I enjoyed it. Thought it was enjoyable. Nothing special - but good.

The Rumble is the first time I loved Ember Moon. She was fantastic there. I haven't liked her in NXT yet.

 

[Natey]

My ratings again;

Authors of Pain vs. Undisputed Era
Rating: ****
Velveteen Dream vs. Kassius Ohno
Rating: ***1/2
Ember Moon vs. Shayna Bazsler
Rating: **3/4 (Rewatch: **1/2)
Adam Cole vs. Aleister Black
Rating: ****1/4
Johnny Gargano vs. Andrade Almas
Rating: *****

However, I did rewatch and moved the women's match to **1/2. Everything else I felt the same.

 

[Virtanen18]

On the flip side, I think Moon is weirdly hated around here for no reason. She did a tremendous job selling, even into the women's rumble, and I enjoyed it. Thought it was enjoyable. Nothing special - but good.

Always found her absolutely boring outside of one match with Asuka and a cool finisher.

 

[Cor]

I thought the Women’s match was really well done

 

[Jussi]

I thought the Women’s match was really well done

I didn't think it was that bad either, considering the inexperience of Bayszler. She seems to be developing nicely though. Perhaps these two don't quite have the best in-ring chemistry so a triple threat or a fatal 4-way would be a better showcase for the division? Add Royce, Cross or Kairi into to the mix.

 

[Kimi]

It was the correct match to have, but that kind of match is really hard to be great. I didn't think it was anything close to bad, I'd call it good.

 

[GKJ]

I didn't think it was that bad either, considering the inexperience of Bayszler. She seems to be developing nicely though. Perhaps these two don't quite have the best in-ring chemistry so a triple threat or a fatal 4-way would be a better showcase for the division? Add Royce, Cross or Kairi into to the mix.

Every time they’ve put the multi-women match together, nobody was helped by it, including the champions. Just do another women’s match with a compelling storyline.

 

[Jussi]

Every time they’ve put the multi-women match together, nobody was helped by it, including the champions. Just do another women’s match with a compelling storyline.

Becky vs Charlotte vs Sasha vs Bayley?

 

[GKJ]

Becky vs Charlotte vs Sasha vs Bayley?

Yeah but the division was already strong and they were over. They did a 4-way in San Antonio and Houston and a triple threat in Chicago and it didn’t really showcase anybody.