Would You Take Hoffman For Free?

[GodEmperor]

Condition: He STAYS with his gf and this is his final decision.

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[WilliamNylander]

Noooo

 

[Silky mitts]

Cap number $5.1875M each of the next 2 years, cash payout $5.65M. Do not want.

 

[Meeqs]

Hell no. Teams spend decades trying to work on locker room chemistry, and no player is worth ruining that. If you're going to win, win with class.

 

[Foppberg]

If I could turn flip him for a pick or two, sure. If not then no, don't want that toxic duo around my team.

 

[Sky04]

And if she's innocent it says a lot more about him then most people around here.

 

[Echo Roku]

And if she's innocent it says a lot more about him then most people around here.

Betting on her being innocent is sort of a silly risk

 

[illpucks]

Of course. Situation will die down. As long as he's productive. Kane had this happen and no one remembers it anymore. Same HF. Multiple 40 page threads saying how Kane has no value anymore and he'll not play again.

 

[Laineux]

If he helps to win hockey games, yes. Now that this has become public well I somehow doubt that his GF is going to start another drama as bad as this one.

 

[Dogewow]

Hell no. Teams spend decades trying to work on locker room chemistry, and no player is worth ruining that. If you're going to win, win with class.

Any team trying to find locker room chemestry for a decade or more should heavily consider new ownership and management. That sort of thing doesn't take that long to establish, not even close.

Anyway, I'd say absolutely yes that I'd take him for free. He's a free 60 point player...

Obviously it's not going to work for him in Ottawa as the situation there is beyond repair, and the situation is obviously a big story across the hockey world. But eventually this is going to die down and people will forget about it. If something more egregious comes out (like he involved or something worse is revealed), then there may be something more to talk about, but as of right now that isn't the case.

I always find the "locker room cancer" or "off ice distraction" to be one of the most overused and misunderstood ideas on this board. Shouldn't the Blackhawks have had serious issues on the ice and in the locker room with what Patrick Kane has gone through over the course of his career?

 

[Bounces R Way]

Yup. You're paying him to play hockey, not for his moral turpitude.

 

[Crede777]

I'd talk to my players and coaches first just to get a read on their attitudes. But yeah probably.

Then again, teams should probably be talking to their players and coaches about the Hoffman/Karlsson situation anyways and going through guidelines about how these things will be handled or resolved within the organization.

 

[NewtJorden]

Not until i would get to the bottom of that situation

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

This would need to go into a further investigation. If his girlfriend stays away from the players' wives. After the first year, I would consider letting her go near the wives if she is supervised at all times.

She'd be allowed to attend games (except the team in which Karlsson would be playing for or in the presence of Karlsson's wife), but in a designated zone where she could be watched carefully by security, if she breaks the first warning she has to watch the remainder of the games from home and would be suspended from the home arena until further notice and won't be allowed on road games of Mike Hoffman's respective team or where Erik Karlsson's respective team would be.

As for Hoffman, if proven innocent or not, I'd need to sit down with him and have this talk. I'd also have him sign a contract as to which he'd have to forfeit salary, be suspended without pay, or have the contract be terminated.

 

[Canovin]

This is like finding free cash and not taking it

 

[GodEmperor]

This is like finding free cash and not taking it

Except the cash comes with the potential stipulation that it could completely ruin future cash making opportunities.

 

[Highmarker]

This is like finding free cash and not taking it

yah but the cash is tainted. Think of it like the mobs money and bad things might happen to you by taking that free money.

 

[KingTux]

What in the world of what

Who in their right mind would say no to that

 

[Maukkis]

Apparently he already refused to come to Winnipeg this year, so f*** him.

 

[Paul4587]

Of course. Situation will die down. As long as he's productive. Kane had this happen and no one remembers it anymore. Same HF. Multiple 40 page threads saying how Kane has no value anymore and he'll not play again.

The Kane situation is nothing like this. Kane had a bad attitude and rubbed his teammates up the wrong way, Hoffman’s fiancé has allegedly wished Karlssons career to end, his wife dead and their unborn baby dead. If that’s true (and it looks likely that it is) and Hoffman is sticking by her that’s on a completely different level to anything Kane has done.

 

[sparxx87]

Apparently he already refused to come to Winnipeg this year, so **** him.

So what? Most people don’t wanna go to Winnipeg. If you’ve travelled even a little bit you’d know why. Don’t take it personally.

Re; OP - Yeah, absolutely... but I’d ban his girlfriend from being involved in any team functions or in any team facilities including the CT centre. I’d also have all players and anyone associated block all her social media accounts.

Hoffman is a good player but there’s no room for a toxic female like that. Unfortunately, it’ll probably cost him a lot of money by the time he finally wakes up and sees it... he certainly isn’t the first to be intoxicated by the kitty.

 

[ijuka]

The question is:

Would you sign UFA Hoffman to a 2 year deal with a 5.187500 dollar AAV?

And my answer is: With his drama and locker room cancer, I wouldn't bother.

If the question is whether I'd take him with 0 cap hit, that might be a different story. But taking a 5.2mil cap hit isn't "free".

 

[Maukkis]

So what? Most people don’t wanna go to Winnipeg. If you’ve travelled even a little bit you’d know why. Don’t take it personally.

Re; OP - Yeah, absolutely... but I’d ban his girlfriend from being involved in any team functions or in any team facilities including the CT centre. I’d also have all players and anyone associated block all her social media accounts.

Hoffman is a good player but there’s no room for a toxic female like that. Unfortunately, it’ll probably cost him a lot of money by the time he finally wakes up and sees it... he certainly isn’t the first to be intoxicated by the kitty.

I'm not a Winnipegger. I'm just stating how I feel about his decision to refuse a trade there.

 

[sparxx87]

I'm not a Winnipegger. I'm just stating how I feel about his decision to refuse a trade there.

So you’re mad he exercised his contractual right?

Again, you shouldn’t take it so personally. Whether you’re from Winnipeg, or just cheer for the Jets, he didn’t decline because of you.

 

[Maukkis]

So you’re mad he exercised his contractual right?

Again, you shouldn’t take it so personally. Whether you’re from Winnipeg, or just cheer for the Jets, he didn’t decline because of you.

It was his choice, and he made it clear that he did not want to come. I don't know what's the hard part to understand here: he doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, so why would I want him to be with the team?